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Liver Helper Myth Destroyed

Fonz would you post a study on Tyler's liver tox, as I've yet to see one. I don't dispute the effectiveness of ALA it is beyond doubt the best liver protector.
 
DaMan said:
N-Acetyl-Cysteine.

That perticular substance is already in Tylers.

Fonz
 
FONZ...

Great Post. How much ALA would you recommend to protect the liver against 25 mg per day of winny or halo?
 
First of all I can't understand why you suggest Cranberry. Cranberry does jack shit. If you want to talk about useless supplements, I would have to say the cranberry should go FIRST. Then the milk thistle. The only thing cranberry has proven to do in clincal studies is to prevent bacteria from sticking to the lining of the bladder - Thus preventing a urinary tract infection. As taken from GNC.COM:

Historical or traditional use (may or may not be supported by scientific studies): In traditional North American herbalism, cranberry has been used to prevent kidney stones and “bladder gravel” as well as to remove toxins from the blood. Cranberry has long been recommended by herbalists as well as doctors to help prevent urinary tract infections (UTIs).

Active constituents: In test tube studies, cranberry prevents E. coli, the most common bacterial cause of UTIs, from adhering to the cells lining the wall of the bladder. This anti-adherence action is thought to reduce the ability of the bacteria to cause a UTI.1 2 The proanthocyanidins in the berry have exhibited this anti-adherence action.3 Cranberry has been shown to reduce bacteria levels in the urinary bladders of older women significantly better than placebo, an action that may help to prevent UTIs.4 A small double-blind trial with younger women ages 18–45 years with a history of recurrent urinary tracts infections, found that daily treatment with an encapsulated cranberry concentrate (400 mg twice per day) for three months significantly reduced the recurrence of urinary tract infections compared to women taking a placebo.5 Other preliminary trials in humans suggest cranberry may help people with urostomies and enterocystoplasties to keep their urine clear of mucus buildup and possibly reduce the risk of UTIs.6 However, one trial found that cranberry did not reduce the risk of UTIs in children with neurogenic bladder disease (a condition that does not allow for proper flow of urine from the bladder) who were receiving daily catheterization.7

Cranberry does ABSOLUTELY nothing for kidney health other than preventing UTI's. Steroids don't give you UTI's.. so what is the point exactly? I've heard that old wives tale that cranberry juice is good for the kidneys, but have never really seen any medical literature to this date supporting that notion. If you ask me, water is probably just about as good if not better because it lacks the sugar which most cranberry juices have.

Just my .02 cents. :)

Gman
 
Gman said:
First of all I can't understand why you suggest Cranberry. Cranberry does jack shit. If you want to talk about useless supplements, I would have to say the cranberry should go FIRST. Then the milk thistle. The only thing cranberry has proven to do in clincal studies is to prevent bacteria from sticking to the lining of the bladder - Thus preventing a urinary tract infection. As taken from GNC.COM:

Historical or traditional use (may or may not be supported by scientific studies): In traditional North American herbalism, cranberry has been used to prevent kidney stones and “bladder gravel” as well as to remove toxins from the blood. Cranberry has long been recommended by herbalists as well as doctors to help prevent urinary tract infections (UTIs).

Active constituents: In test tube studies, cranberry prevents E. coli, the most common bacterial cause of UTIs, from adhering to the cells lining the wall of the bladder. This anti-adherence action is thought to reduce the ability of the bacteria to cause a UTI.1 2 The proanthocyanidins in the berry have exhibited this anti-adherence action.3 Cranberry has been shown to reduce bacteria levels in the urinary bladders of older women significantly better than placebo, an action that may help to prevent UTIs.4 A small double-blind trial with younger women ages 18–45 years with a history of recurrent urinary tracts infections, found that daily treatment with an encapsulated cranberry con

Interesting. Yet. GNC.COM???????

I woud rather talk to the local shaman then get information
from that site.

One word: MEDLINE.

Fonz
 
Re: FONZ...

Sexton said:
Great Post. How much ALA would you recommend to protect the liver against 25 mg per day of winny or halo?

The clinical therapeutic dose is 600mg/day.

Fonz
 
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