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upone

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Just wondering if this stuff is as good as femara/letrozol ???
Also has anyone from Canada ordered this stuff? Any issuses getting it ?
Im on week 3 of 30mgs/ED D-bol, 500mgs/EW test E, ( winny week 8-13 )
Got nolva but not using it during cycle. No lumps but the tip of the nipple feels just a bit sore when i tap it or squeeze it. But only the tip.
Should this be my sign to start 20mgs ED nolva?
Is it wise to buy liquifem as well ???
 
That what I'm using it works great for bloat and gyno but it's killing my sexdrive

To answer your question Liquidfem is Letrozole/Femara
 
macrophage69alpha said:
you could avoid "slaying" your sex drive along with the the bloat/gyno/etc by using aromasin or AIFM instead..
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I am very sensitive to gyno and have some remaints(mispelled)of gyno from prior cycles. I wanted to use the stongest gyno killer, which is letro+nolv combo. I was aware that it might slay my sexdrive but was willing to use it to kill the gyno
 
K back to my post. Any canadians order this stuff (ag-guys)??
Also from my post? are those signs of gyno. It's only the tips and they don't kill its just when u flick them or squeeze the tip it hurts just a bit. No lumps nothing.

As far as AIFM. I can't order that to canada.
 
upone said:
Just wondering if this stuff is as good as femara/letrozol ???
Also has anyone from Canada ordered this stuff? Any issuses getting it ?
Im on week 3 of 30mgs/ED D-bol, 500mgs/EW test E, ( winny week 8-13 )
Got nolva but not using it during cycle. No lumps but the tip of the nipple feels just a bit sore when i tap it or squeeze it. But only the tip.
Should this be my sign to start 20mgs ED nolva?
Is it wise to buy liquifem as well ???
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LiquiFem is letrozole, same thing.

Don't squeeze your nipples...1.25mgs of letro with 40mgs nolva ED should clear that right up.
 
upone said:
K back to my post. Any canadians order this stuff (ag-guys)??
Also from my post? are those signs of gyno. It's only the tips and they don't kill its just when u flick them or squeeze the tip it hurts just a bit. No lumps nothing.
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There are canadians who posted feedback here...AG is top notch so you wont have a problem.

Check my post on your gyno Q... :coffee:
 
mr.x

Should I stay on that dose until it clears up only or would you suggest to stick it out throughout the cycle? Is it common for the nipps to become sensetive again after you cleared it up the 1st time ?
 
upone said:
mr.x

Should I stay on that dose until it clears up only or would you suggest to stick it out throughout the cycle? Is it common for the nipps to become sensetive again after you cleared it up the 1st time ?
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I have it, it comes and goes, letro kills it.
A-dex prevents it. once u have in then do the letro.
 
arimidex is quite often too weak. Aromasin or AIFM are far better choices for prevention and treatment. Letro is the most potent, though as noted this can cause other issues, particularly libido- though its certainly effective at reducing estrogen. (which is why, while it works very well, it tends to cause the libido issues and dry joints/tendons- signs of too low estrogen)
 
Will liquifem cause temporary libido issues? Just wondering.
If it's really that strong I'd prefer to take it anyways and worry about my sexdrive after my cycle.
Say I take it and my symptoms clear up after a week. If I continue with my cycle and stop the letro would my sexdrive go back to normal ???

Just wondering how all that works? If it only kills libido while on letro then I won't be that worried. As long as it's not long term.
 
should be temporary, but if you are on cycle you will have to run an AI for the rest of it. And probably should run one everytime (since you are gyno prone)
 
Started 30mgs nolva today. Should I drop the dbols to 25mgs/ED instead of 30mgs?
Once the letro comes in I'll do 1.25mgs/letro+40mgsnolva /ED

Just wondering. Until the letro comes should I do 40mgs nolva /ED ??
 
upone said:
Started 30mgs nolva today. Should I drop the dbols to 25mgs/ED instead of 30mgs?
Once the letro comes in I'll do 1.25mgs/letro+40mgsnolva /ED

Just wondering. Until the letro comes should I do 40mgs nolva /ED ??
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Up the nolva for now, and I would drop the dbol period until you have letro.
 
Mr.X said:
Up the nolva for now, and I would drop the dbol period until you have letro.
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d-bol was what was causing my senstive nips i have dropped it. i have run the armidex everyday so far w/aifm and things are getting back to normal. but the sex drive as of today/it would not stay hard.and i have only been running it daily since fri. usually i run it 3-day split but when i got the syptoms i did not want to take any chances.
 
It's my 3rd week on the dbols. Might as well drop it if it's causing this problem for me. I'll up the nolva to 40mgs/day for now and wait till the letro comes in.
I'm more worried about the gyno then my sex drive.

Would it be wise to save the dbols + some more for my next bulker along with an AI like adex or drop it forever since I seem to be prone to gyno?

How long does it take for it to clear up usually? As I said it's only sensative for now. Maybe a bit puffy at times but nothing that bad.

Would I feel anything from the Nolva @ 40mgs/ED or will I notice a big difference once I take letro w/it
 
upone said:
It's my 3rd week on the dbols. Might as well drop it if it's causing this problem for me. I'll up the nolva to 40mgs/day for now and wait till the letro comes in.
I'm more worried about the gyno then my sex drive.

Would it be wise to save the dbols + some more for my next bulker along with an AI like adex or drop it forever since I seem to be prone to gyno?

How long does it take for it to clear up usually? As I said it's only sensative for now. Maybe a bit puffy at times but nothing that bad.

Would I feel anything from the Nolva @ 40mgs/ED or will I notice a big difference once I take letro w/it
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If you're prone to gyno, I wouldn't run dbol without letro, so save it for your next time - for now, don't touch dbol until your gyno is gone.

Time to clear up gyno varies, it can be 4 weeks, it can be 12 weeks - it is variable. :coffee:
 
Great. Dbol is definatelly out for the remeinder of my cycle. It's my 2nd day off dbol and 2nd day on Nolva @ 40mgs/ED. I don't know if its just me but the nipps arn't as sensative as they were a few days ago.
I'll throw in the letro as well once I get it.

Thanks for all your help on this. Very much appreciated
 
upone said:
Great. Dbol is definatelly out for the remeinder of my cycle. It's my 2nd day off dbol and 2nd day on Nolva @ 40mgs/ED. I don't know if its just me but the nipps arn't as sensative as they were a few days ago.
I'll throw in the letro as well once I get it.

Thanks for all your help on this. Very much appreciated
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no problem bro, keep posting those updates ;)
 
Mr X why nolva w/ letro? i was on nolva waiting for my letro, should be here tomorrow. no nolva for about 5 days. planning on just letro, is nolva necessary w/ it? i am prone to gyno like symptoms, just slightly puffy nips, no soarness or pain. holding alittle water too.
 
Try AIFM if you have the extra money. Works great. I ran 1000mg of test and 500mg of Deca per week and 35mg of D-bol ed. With NO signs of gyno
 
X well it's been about a week or so on 40mgs nolva alone. Nipps feel like they are back to normal. If anything it's very minor sensativity. I can tap them, squeeze them without any pain though.

Letro also came in today. I'll throw in the 1.25mgs/ED with Nolva.

X since my nipps feel good should I cut back the nolva especially since I got letro now?
Say down to 20mgs/ED along with the 1.25mgs letro???

Also as I mentioned earlier the wife and I are off to bahamas in a few days. Is it wise to take letro now or after the trip. Don't really want the sex drive to drop down there.

Any opinions?
 
Since your symptoms aren't that bad, I would suggest that you use your best judgement and adjust your doses as you see fit, see what happens. If it doesn't works so well, you'll know in a couple days. And, it sounds like you're paying close attention to your body, so you'd know when to up things again. good luck!

(Sorry, if I'm jumping in here unwelcomed. It's just that I believe in being flexible and "feeling"out what I need and wanted to pass that along.)


Jacob
 
upone said:
X well it's been about a week or so on 40mgs nolva alone. Nipps feel like they are back to normal. If anything it's very minor sensativity. I can tap them, squeeze them without any pain though.

Letro also came in today. I'll throw in the 1.25mgs/ED with Nolva.

X since my nipps feel good should I cut back the nolva especially since I got letro now?
Say down to 20mgs/ED along with the 1.25mgs letro???

Also as I mentioned earlier the wife and I are off to bahamas in a few days. Is it wise to take letro now or after the trip. Don't really want the sex drive to drop down there.

Any opinions?
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If you're very worried about libido, hold off your letro until you come back from vacation - but keep running your nolva at 40mgs ED until all gyno symptoms are gone.
 
jacshelb- no worries dude. Any help/advice/input is appreciated.
x- libido was something i was worried about for te trip. Plus I'd rather keep all my items away from the trip. As I said I noticed a big difference in sensativity with the 40mgs Nolva alone. I'll throw in the letro when I get back.
I'll be occupied with work and other things so libido won't effect me that much.
I just want to make sure I don't have that issue while on vacation.

I'll keep this updated.
Thx for all the help
 
upone said:
jacshelb- no worries dude. Any help/advice/input is appreciated.
x- libido was something i was worried about for te trip. Plus I'd rather keep all my items away from the trip. As I said I noticed a big difference in sensativity with the 40mgs Nolva alone. I'll throw in the letro when I get back.
I'll be occupied with work and other things so libido won't effect me that much.
I just want to make sure I don't have that issue while on vacation.

I'll keep this updated.
Thx for all the help
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Good to hear, let's work on this so your gyno is gone completely not too long after you come back ;)
 
X or mac, I have used adex in the past and it was not very helpful with bloating issues allthough gyno is not something I have ever had to deal with. I want to really reduce the bloat for my next test/eq cycle, but am concerned about the libido issues. With test there, is the libido issue AFTER the cycle is done during pct, or thru the entire usage? Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
 
rykertest said:
X or mac, I have used adex in the past and it was not very helpful with bloating issues allthough gyno is not something I have ever had to deal with. I want to really reduce the bloat for my next test/eq cycle, but am concerned about the libido issues. With test there, is the libido issue AFTER the cycle is done during pct, or thru the entire usage? Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
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libido issues are variable; if you want to reduce bloat (not gyno) - you can run the letrozole at lower dosages like .25mgs-.5mgs ED (depends on your test dose) along with some natural diuretics. This should dry you out with minimal libido issues.
 
Ohh it's great to have people like x around here. Lots of experience and knowledge to back up what they say. Very helpful
 
Mr.X said:
libido issues are variable; if you want to reduce bloat (not gyno) - you can run the letrozole at lower dosages like .25mgs-.5mgs ED (depends on your test dose) along with some natural diuretics. This should dry you out with minimal libido issues.
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so if my dose of adex in previous cycles was .5 to 1 of liduidex, would .25 of letrozole be a noticable difference? Thanks again and K to you.
 
rykertest said:
so if my dose of adex in previous cycles was .5 to 1 of liduidex, would .25 of letrozole be a noticable difference? Thanks again and K to you.
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Letrozole is very strong. Try .25mgs for a few days see how you like it, you can always bump to .5mgs-1mg - it's really up to how you feel when you're using it.
 
x just got back from vacation. I continued to take nolve there @ 30mgs/ED and for the last 4 days I cut it to 20mgs/ED. My nips feel great. I don't feel them beeing sensative. Although I do have a lot of water weight.

Should I still use the letro or save it for other times? What do you think. Maybe I should still take it at a low dose with the nolva to get rid of everything in case its still around. Just want to be safe
 
macrophage69alpha said:
arimidex is quite often too weak. Aromasin or AIFM are far better choices for prevention and treatment. Letro is the most potent, though as noted this can cause other issues, particularly libido- though its certainly effective at reducing estrogen. (which is why, while it works very well, it tends to cause the libido issues and dry joints/tendons- signs of too low estrogen)
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i have arthritis, will taking letro while on the test really effect my joints, is it a bad idea?
 
upone said:
x just got back from vacation. I continued to take nolve there @ 30mgs/ED and for the last 4 days I cut it to 20mgs/ED. My nips feel great. I don't feel them beeing sensative. Although I do have a lot of water weight.

Should I still use the letro or save it for other times? What do you think. Maybe I should still take it at a low dose with the nolva to get rid of everything in case its still around. Just want to be safe
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If your sore nipples got better with nolva use, why reinvent the wheel? :coffee: Just stick to novla for a few weeks and see how it works out for you. If you're not happy with the results in a few weeks, you can always jump on letrozole.
 
Mr.X said:
LiquiFem is letrozole, same thing.

Don't squeeze your nipples...1.25mgs of letro with 40mgs nolva ED should clear that right up.
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HAHAHA! i'm not too sure why i found that so amusing, but i busted out laughing in the library! you can always count on Mr.X for words of wisdom :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
Hey X well Nolva has worked great for the gyno syptoms but I do retain a lot of water. Everyone is noticing. I can even tell in my face too.
Should I just stick it out and continue with Nolva only. I'd like to avoid lipido but then again I don't really want al that water. What do you think ???
 
yes yes I read that over. I catch your drift with the gyno symptoms and sticking to nolva only. But what I ment is the bloat. DO you think it's wise to hit up letro to lose the bloat or would you say it's best to save it for gyno syptoms only.

Week 8-13 I start 25mgs/ED winny caps as well. SO that might help? Or do you think it's a waste as I won't see much muscle hardness due to the bloat and the small daily dose?
 
upone said:
yes yes I read that over. I catch your drift with the gyno symptoms and sticking to nolva only. But what I ment is the bloat. DO you think it's wise to hit up letro to lose the bloat or would you say it's best to save it for gyno syptoms only.

Week 8-13 I start 25mgs/ED winny caps as well. SO that might help? Or do you think it's a waste as I won't see much muscle hardness due to the bloat and the small daily dose?
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Letrozole is VERY effective for bloat, you can add it along with some natural diuretics. Even at low dosages .25-.5mgs ED, it's the most potent anti-e on the market.

Winstrol wont do anything for your bloat :coffee:
 
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