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Liquidex while on Bulking cycle?

trojanball

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I am considering taking Liquidex while on Prop, Fina and Eq to keep my bf down. Can I expect to still gain about 15-20lbs of lean mass on this cyle it is my first time taking Test and Eq? Or should I wait and throw it into a cutting cycle right after I bulk? Thanks for any info and advice.
 
Since you are on test, I think its a good idea, its only going to hinder gains of water and fat mostly anyway, and it will keep off gyno.
 
imo liquidex will do nothing to "keep your fat down" that is all in the diet. but liquidex will keep your water retention down so you will appear to be leaner. and it will prevent most cases of gyno.
 
imo liquidex will do nothing to "keep your fat down" that is all in the diet. but liquidex will keep your water retention down so you will appear to be leaner. and it will prevent most cases of gyno.

Exactly what I was going to say. And I also don't know if I believe nolvadex hinders gains. Fat is not an effect of test, only diet. The thing is though water weight is good for strength if thats what your looking for, but I'd take the l-dex, you really don't want gyno. It's a good idea to have nolvadex on hand as well, can't be too careful.
 
I don't see how it couldnt help keep fat off....high estrogen levels are linked to an increase in bodyfat most definitely..super, super high androgen levels and relatively low estrogen levels have to be conducive to fat loss....

Anyone concur??
 
Alright, I agree with you there Frackal, but I never realy see much gain in fat weight. I wasn't thinking in terms of estrogenic fat, But I really feel that diet is more important in terms of fat, but any anti-e would help with that. I don't really understand why anyone would not use anastrozole with there cycle, there are just too many benefits.
 
trojanball said:
I am considering taking Liquidex while on Prop, Fina and Eq to keep my bf down. Can I expect to still gain about 15-20lbs of lean mass on this cyle it is my first time taking Test and Eq? Or should I wait and throw it into a cutting cycle right after I bulk? Thanks for any info and advice.

USE THROUGHOUT
 
Thanks for backing me up Frackal, estrogen causes your body to store more fat. Diet certainly is a big factor, but huge amounts of estrogen are not going to be good for the physique not matter what you are eating. Bottom line, if you have it, use it with the test and not after.
 
some say nolva hinders some gains, i don't know about cutting test in half though...macro you and that face on every post:p
 
I will never run another cycle without liquidex again,bulking or cutting.Frackal is right,the higher conversion of androgens into estrogen you allow,the more potential not only for water-retention/gyno,but estrogenic fat-patterning as well.L-dex is a wise choice to keep all these cosmetic abnormalities in check.

BTW,nolvadex does not 'cut your test' at all.It MAY lower IGF-1 levels,but it will do nothing to impair T binding to it's receptor.
 
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