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LIQUIDEX is a mass builder!!!

BigAndy69

BigAndy69

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Some of you may remember my post about a 265lb fat ass friend of mind who I put on clen/low dose T3 and Liquidex. He did 3 weeks of Clen, then started Liquidex and the 2 weeks off the Clen, 12.5mcg T3.

After 3 weeks of clen, he went from 265 to 253. After clen, back up to 256 (Water weight comes back).

After 2 weeks of Liquidex at 0.5mg ED, he's now 264-266.

His breasts tissue has been reduced by almost 50%. His butt/Legs/Back, phenomenal weight loss. His bench went from 225 for 4 reps to 255lbs for 3-4reps.

We had to postpone the use of T3 because the package has not arrived yet, so he was using Liquidex only.

He actually came up to me at the gym, a little pissed off, and said,

"Is Liquidex a steroid?"
I say "No, it's not".
"Andy, I told you I don't want to use steroids! What the fuck did you give me, I'm up to 266."

He's not the first person I know to gain muscle mass off Liquidex only. Da big Thinker, if you are reading this, this explains your 6 lbs gain in LBM on Liquidex.

This cycle is going to turn out great.
 
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Well, anastrozole may not be AAS but is has a significant effect on natural test levels raising them approx 50%.
 
I've heard that argument before, but, he sure doesn't seem to have much to say to defend himself. I, for one, and using liquidex right now w/ a cutting cycle of tren and eca and am loving the overall results, I plan on using the liquidex post-cycle w/ clomid. I sure as hell don't think it's inhibiting any gains, As I just said on another thread, I've gained app. 2-3 pounds of muscle so far and lost close to 3-4 lb's/fat.
 
Interesting. I have been on Liquidex for three weeks popst cycle and I am not as big but comprably stronger and my weight is sticking around 243lbs. It would make sense that the use of Arinidex woudl raise natural test levels. No estrogen, the body makes more test to acheive normalcy.
 
Well, it sure doesn't do that for me. I wish it did, but I always lose a good 6-7 lbs. coming off with it, and clen, and Nolva, and clomid. Stil though, I do seem to lose some fat coming off - but not 6 lbs. worth.
 
I believe results will definetly vary , but your friiend probably had a naturally high level or aromatization and once the liquidex came he had allot more test

And if anything liquidex icnreases aas effectivness
 
Let's keep it in perspective, the guy is a total natural.

What suprised me was da big thinker's gains on liquidex only. He wasn't coming off a cycle, it was a cycle of it's own, liquidex/Clen.
 
BigAndy69 said:
Let's keep it in perspective, the guy is a total natural.

What suprised me was da big thinker's gains on liquidex only. He wasn't coming off a cycle, it was a cycle of it's own, liquidex/Clen.
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Uh, clen, T3, Liquidex, oh yeah, the guy is a "total natural".:)
 
Keep in mind the more fat one has the more aromatization therewill be so the body fat reduction for someone who is 25%bf and someone who is 12% bf will be drastic.
 
The original thread:


A friend of mine is one fat mofo. Use to be 320lbs actually and is now down to 265lbs. He's been stuck at that weight for a year or so, and wants to lose weight. He has the
BIGGEST man boobs I've seen in my life so I decide to give him 10ml of my liquidex. He also has a gigantic ass.

Here's what I put him on:

Subject: Dave P, Nickname: "Hearty Italian"

Cycle:

W1-W3: Clenbuterol: Ventipulmin, going up to 100mcg

W3: I gave him 10ml of my liquidex and he is now running it at 0.5mg E0D

W4-W6:

Off clen,
Liquidex 0.5mg E0D bumping it to ED if he reacts well to it.
T3: 12.5mcg ED

W7-W9:

Clenbuterol up to 120mcg
T3: 12.5mcg ED
Liquidex: 0.5mg ED

W10:

T3: 6.25mcg ED
Liquidex: 0.5mg ED


Currently he is eating less food, not really a strict BBing diet, and in the middle of week 3, he has lost 12lbs.

He weighs 253lbs down from 265 and people are noticing. The target weight is 220lbs.

This Stack in my opinion is the safest most effective stack for fat loss.
 
Zyglamail said:
Well, anastrozole may not be AAS but is has a significant effect on natural test levels raising them approx 50%.
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And therein lies the answer...Dumbell,I'm assuming your talking about it's use DURING cycle,in regards to it lowering IGF-1 levels(which we're not even sure it does to any great degree with bodybuilders who are using huge amounts of androgens,as most of the studies were done on drug-free subjects).An amazing all around cosmetic enhancer.
 
dumbell150 said:
Thats a lotta B.S. if anything it limits gains.
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ladies and gentlemen, what he have here is yet another under-educated gearhead who thinks estrogen releated weight gain=lean mass gain

well stick around bro, you just might learn a thing or two
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


And therein lies the answer...Dumbell,I'm assuming your talking about it's use DURING cycle,in regards to it lowering IGF-1 levels(which we're not even sure it does to any great degree with bodybuilders who are using huge amounts of androgens,as most of the studies were done on drug-free subjects).An amazing all around cosmetic enhancer.
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Huck, for a second there i thought you were busting on him, untill i scrolled up and saw his Screen Name.....dumbell
 

Da big Thinker, if you are reading this, this explains your 6 lbs gain in LBM on Liquidex.

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yup...it is for this reason i will never do a cycle w/o the help of l-dex...in addition,even while i'm "off"...i'm thinking of using it 2 months on,2 months off,etc...excellent compound with so many positive benefits...
 
I've used just about everything in my years of juiceing, and I would have to say that liquidex is one of the most remarkable drugs That I have ever used. Currently I'm doing 300mg deca a week and 200mg of prop twice weekly with .5mg liquidex daily. I'm strong and fairly lean considering my calorie intake at present, I look about four weeks out from contest shape. Also I'm doing fairly large amounts of ALA before meals.
 
I'm using femera by itself right now trying to get rid of some gyno. It hasn't helped the gyno much but I've gained about 6 pounds in a month. No bullshit. About a month after my clomid ended I weighed 210. I took liquidex for two weeks by itself and then swithched to femera. I've been on that for about two weeks now. I weigh 216 now and I have lost bodyfat. I'm in love with these anti-aromitizers!
 
OH yeah I also broke out while on the liquidex. I guess that is kind of a good thing. I'm seeing the doc today to get some more minocycline. This stuff definitely raises your test.
 
Serge or whatever th f*k you call yourself. I only speak if i can add usefull feedback. I have been training and J**ing for over 10 years. This year is my first using ARIM, with great success. Now listen SERGE, i can tell you that in my experience it limits gains regardless of estrogen or not...In comparison to my previous cycles i noticed that i have not acheived the same muscle gains as in previous years....Learn,Listen and them Sh*t the F*k up and listen again. Its apparent that you are a newbie to this sport...HUCK, out of respect i say no more.
 
dumbell150 said:
Serge or whatever th f*k you call yourself. I only speak if i can add usefull feedback. I have been training and J**ing for over 10 years. This year is my first using ARIM, with great success. Now listen SERGE, i can tell you that in my experience it limits gains regardless of estrogen or not...In comparison to my previous cycles i noticed that i have not acheived the same muscle gains as in previous years....Learn,Listen and them Sh*t the F*k up and listen again. Its apparent that you are a newbie to this sport...HUCK, out of respect i say no more.
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easy up there bro! serge wasnt attacking you! it was just a mix-up thats all.. it was just coincedence how huck used your name
 
whoa relax dumbell,
there are others including myself who were just interested in hearing your point regarding no lean mass gain while on liquidex...you even went as far as to say that it inhibits gains.

Just because you have been lifting for ten years does not make your account the norm. I personally train with ba69 and the person he is referring to (Hearty Italian lol and that he is) and he HAS gained lean mass at a substantial rate.

There could be potentially many reasons why your results differed while on arimidex or liquidex...no disrespect bro but in providing a valid argument i fail to see why liquidex inhibits gains...i was hoping you would present something more valid as this applies to myself my friend and many others...

b.A.
 
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I agree now that i re read the post...Can i blame it on the Arimidex and TREN?.......SERG, my bad Bro. And HUCK my apologies......But the DEX does have some type of minimizing effect..My 2 cents.......
 
Hey, believe me i would love to use DEX and have it maximize my gains, but i really dont belive it has..I would love to know why?
 
dumbell150 said:
I agree now that i re read the post...Can i blame it on the Arimidex and TREN?.......SERG, my bad Bro. And HUCK my apologies......But the DEX does have some type of minimizing effect..My 2 cents.......
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This very well may be the case for you dumbell,as we each display individualistic responses to varying compounds,but this is not the case with myself or anyone I know of,in fact if anything,we feel it ENHANCES our cycle,by limiting edema and keeping our muscles hard like granite throughout the cycle,which correalates to us excreting less fluid post-cycle,i.e.less weight loss post cycle.I will never run another cycle without the REAL liquidex,either cutting or bulking.BTW,I have been 'experimenting' myself for 14 years now,so I'm definitely feeling you there,lol.
 
dumbell150 said:
Serge or whatever th f*k you call yourself. I only speak if i can add usefull feedback. I have been training and J**ing for over 10 years. This year is my first using ARIM, with great success. Now listen SERGE, i can tell you that in my experience it limits gains regardless of estrogen or not...In comparison to my previous cycles i noticed that i have not acheived the same muscle gains as in previous years....Learn,Listen and them Sh*t the F*k up and listen again. Its apparent that you are a newbie to this sport...HUCK, out of respect i say no more.
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when you say limit muscle gains...do you mean water weight???...
 
hey huck....? for ya

im thinking about running a eq/tren/anavar/ liquidex cycle..should i add some test or proviron??

my goal is to get sliced and mothafuckin diced!! this f*cking prolactin as gonna pay!!!
what do yall think about throwing some bromo IN THERE??


assuming diet is in check!!
 
When i use the term mucle gains, i mean pure muscle. If i take 1000 mgs of cyp a week, and 100mg of DROL ED. I'll probably gain 30 - 40 ilb of which possibley less that 15 will be solid muscle gains......After cycling many times you learn how your body will respond..At this point i know that i can put on 7-10 pounds of lean muscle with a moderatly dosed cycle...At this moment im running the exact cycle i ran the previous year.As i am definatly leaner and harder i have noticed that the muscle bellies in my arms and shoulders were fuller and had much more of an angular shape. My training has remained the same, diet perhaps a bit cleaner. . ..BTW - I have friends who are currently using DEX in their cycles and to certain level we share the similar thoughts..Dont get me wrong, i like Arimidex
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Bromo/Liquidex as your anti-female hormone combatants would work unbelievably well with those drugs.
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I think the bromo/Liquidex combo may possibly be one of the
best cutters ever. I can't wait to read Lyle McDonalds Bromocriptine e-book
 
fat or skinny ???

hope this is not a dumb question ,but here goes
I have noticed that an alot of the posts about Liquidex and wieghtloss always involves higher bf% guys ,myself included ..
Could it not be that one of the reasons guys like myself can put on so much fat so easly is becouse of the high estrogen to begin with naturally ,we are all differnt, so for those of us on the higher end range for estrogen something like liqidex would have a much more powerful effect ??
could I be reading this right or not ?
From a pyhcolgical point of veiw , Iv always noticed that my fat friends have very mellow personality,s ( natural high estrogen ) ,while my gym friends are agressive and for the most part do not have the same fat acumulation problems , this is just a general sort of observation ..
Might explain why the differnce in effect with some of us !


peace
hempster
 
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BigAndy69

Consider convincing your friend to take a fasting blood test for cholesterol, etc. I have a theory that Liquidex may help to improve the HDL / LDL profile of overweight people specifically those with loads of estorgen floating around (obese Endomorphs).

I think that liquidex would potentially give a fat endomorph the estrogen profile of a fit ectomorph thereby offering a blood profile improvement.

It would be ideal if he's had blood work done before to compare.

Just a thought!
 
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This very well may be the case for you dumbell,as we each display individualistic responses to varying compounds,but this is not the case with myself or anyone I know of,in fact if anything,we feel it ENHANCES our cycle,by limiting edema and keeping our muscles hard like granite throughout the cycle,which correalates to us excreting less fluid post-cycle,i.e.less weight loss post cycle.I will never run another cycle without the REAL liquidex,either cutting or bulking.BTW,I have been 'experimenting' myself for 14 years now,so I'm definitely feeling you there,lol.
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This is it in a nutshell, pardon the pun. Not everyone will react the same to each and every drug. That is why we must experiment to see what suits us best as an individual. Certain compounds for the most part will have similiar efffects with the majority of users, however there may be exceptions. Myself, I have to agree with those that do not notice diminished gains with
arimidex. I also believe that dumbell 150, after 10 years of experience with gear knows, better than anyone how his unique chemistry reacts to a drug.:)
 
SirWanksalot said:
BigAndy69

Consider convincing your friend to take a fasting blood test for cholesterol, etc. I have a theory that Liquidex may help to improve the HDL / LDL profile of overweight people specifically those with loads of estorgen floating around (obese Endomorphs).

I think that liquidex would potentially give a fat endomorph the estrogen profile of a fit ectomorph thereby offering a blood profile improvement.

It would be ideal if he's had blood work done before to compare.

Just a thought!
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That's a good idea.
 
arimidex is a very potent anti-arom and its been said by experienced guys and experts that some water retention and some estrogen is necessary for optimal muscle growth. so bros keep its dosage minimum like .25mg increase only if water bloat is excessive.
BarPk
 
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