Light cycle! Take a look and let me know!

[xtreme165]

This is my first cycle and it is very light take a look and let me know if it sounds ok to you.

MON Tue Wed Thur Fri Sat Sun
wk1 50Wny 50wny 50wny 50mgwiny
wk2 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk3 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk4 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk5 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk6 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk7 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny

Also wk 1-2 clen 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8tabs of clen
wk 3-4 ECA (xenedrine) 4tabs a day
wk4-6 Clen again the same as wk's 1-2.
wk7-8 ECA and wk8-9 clomid 50mg aday.

What does everyone think I know it is not a heavy cycle I am looking to get a harder look and cut down my BF% by doing this and a good diet. Let me know what you think and would it be better to do 25mg ED or would the above cycle be as good. Thanks!

 

[D00fy]

dude wtf thats not a cycle,save your money and get some injectables,shit im fuckin 18 and when i hit my 1st cycle i wont be pussah to not do injectables so get somet test/eq and use the winny and thats a good cycle

week1-10 test 500mg or 400mg
week1-10 eq 400mg
week7-13 winny
week13-clomid!!!!

understand!!!!!!!

 

[xtreme165]

Its Zambon inj winny. And the above post goes
wk1 Mon Wed Fri Sun 50mg
wk2 Tue Thur Sat 50mg
wk3 Mon Wed Fri Sun 50mg
wk4 Tue Thur Sat 50mg
and son on in that routine though wk 7.

 

[D00fy]

if u want a harder look dont even bother with the winny

do the clen and eca,waste of money but if your dumb enough to go wasting your $$ on winny than go ahead

 

[D00fy]

eq/winny u will get fuckin hard and vascular!!!!!!! injectables !!!!

 

[xtreme165]

doofy, It is inj and this is my first cycle! Taking a bunch of gear is not what I want to do, I am naturally strong and thick I just want to decrease my bf% and with the help of the above cycle I think I can acheive some good results with cardion and a good diet. I do not expect marriacles and again I'm not looking to get any thicker just harden up and decrease bf. If you have never done any AS then how can you say this is a wase of $$. I personally know of a couple of people that have done Winny and clen and have had good results along with a good diet. Anyone else that has EXP, your opinions are appriciated! Thanks!

 

[BigAndy69]

You don't need to break down your cycle like that bro, you could just say 50mg EOD. You confused the hell out of me.

I'm a conservative guy, who doesn't beleive in high doses, but that's just not enough. I don't know what to tell you, this will not do much except give you sides and possibly very mild gains.

Winny is not a "light" drug as you put it. It's very harsh on the liver no matter what people say. It's only good by itself at harmful doses(100mg ED) Not 25mg ED.

I'm sorry to tell you that you're wasting your time. At least 50mg a day alone, but the side effects increase and it's not that great by itself anyway.

 

[xtreme165]

Big Andy, Would Equi alone be better?

 

[guards]

dude wtf thats not a cycle,save your money and get some injectables,shit im fuckin 18 and when i hit my 1st cycle i wont be pussah to not do injectables so get somet test/eq and use the winny and thats a good cycle

week1-10 test 500mg or 400mg
week1-10 eq 400mg
week7-13 winny
week13-clomid!!!!

understand!!!!!!!

Christ! How the hell are you giving advice if you have never done a cycle?? Not to mention the fact that you are 18!!!!!!!!!!

Please keep your mouth shup until you have EXPERIENCE to back this type of statement up.

 

[guards]

This is my first cycle and it is very light take a look and let me know if it sounds ok to you.

MON Tue Wed Thur Fri Sat Sun
wk1 50Wny 50wny 50wny 50mgwiny
wk2 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk3 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk4 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk5 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk6 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk7 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny

Also wk 1-2 clen 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8tabs of clen
wk 3-4 ECA (xenedrine) 4tabs a day
wk4-6 Clen again the same as wk's 1-2.
wk7-8 ECA and wk8-9 clomid 50mg aday.

What does everyone think I know it is not a heavy cycle I am looking to get a harder look and cut down my BF% by doing this and a good diet. Let me know what you think and would it be better to do 25mg ED or would the above cycle be as good. Thanks!

WHat are your stats? Age? Weight? Height? Years training?


Can't help you unless you give us some info.....well, I guess the 18 year old kid could try and help you, but I think you had better stear clear of his posts.

 

[muscle_geek]

I see nothing wrong with your cycle. You will harden up and get more vascular using Winny/Clen/ECA. I guess I'm in the minority on this one.

 

[xtreme165]

My stats
age=28
years training =12 with a 3year lay off from age 24-27
weight 260
height 5"11
bf%= 18%
arms=19
neck=18.5
chest=58"
weist 38 (ouch)
legs=not sure but I do train and they are in proportion
Thanks!

 

[guards]

My stats
age=28
years training =12 with a 3year lay off from age 24-27
weight 260
height 5"11
bf%= 18%
arms=19
neck=18.5
chest=58"
weist 38 (ouch)
legs=not sure but I do train and they are in proportion
Thanks!

Kewl.

Well, I don't think you will like the results of a winny only cycle, although there is not much wrong with them. Sounds like you might be ready for a true blue cycle.

Why not do something simple? Try this:

400mg/week for 10 weeks of test cypionate
50 mg/eod of winny for weeks 6-12
Start clomid in week 14


Cost effective and will help you reach your goals.

 

[BigAndy69]

Big Andy, Would Equi alone be better?

Xtreme, I've talked to you in the past I beleive and I remembered how impressive your stats are. I think you should really focus on your diet for at least 3 weeks with no drugs at all. You can easily get down to 16% BF. Then hit the clen and you will truly be impressed. I think your ramp up of clen is a little too fast. Go with how your body feels.

12 years of training? Very nice.

When you get down to under 15%(I think you should get down to 12% BF) hit a cycle.

I propose the folowing Cycle: QV Eq at 400mg weekly. 200mg Every 4 days.

Winny 50mg EOD can be a very good addition.

I would throw in some Arimidex at 0.25mg ED just for the hell of it. Fat has a very high estrogen "content". It promotes the release of estrogen. Arimidex would help.


A few things to consider: Eq can make you very hungry, and it may give you problems if you have anxiety.

 

[sicklydiesel]

i have friends who love 50mg eod of zambon winny by itself....keeps em hard and lean .

 

[Maxx Out]

This is my first cycle and it is very light take a look and let me know if it sounds ok to you.

MON Tue Wed Thur Fri Sat Sun
wk1 50Wny 50wny 50wny 50mgwiny
wk2 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk3 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk4 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk5 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk6 50wny 50wny 50wny
wk7 50wny 50wny 50wny 50wny

Also wk 1-2 clen 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8tabs of clen
wk 3-4 ECA (xenedrine) 4tabs a day
wk4-6 Clen again the same as wk's 1-2.
wk7-8 ECA and wk8-9 clomid 50mg aday.

What does everyone think I know it is not a heavy cycle I am looking to get a harder look and cut down my BF% by doing this and a good diet. Let me know what you think and would it be better to do 25mg ED or would the above cycle be as good. Thanks!

That looks fine! If it's your first u'll be ok! Only thing I'd do is the winn ed @ 25mg or if u can afford it do 50mg/ed.
The clomid run it at 100mg/day week 8 and 50mg/day weeks 9-10.

As for doofy, just block him out! He has no idea what's going on and shouldn't even be giving advice---WTF first he says winny sucks, then he says eq/winy great combo, he hasen't even done a cycle yet--- don't get me wrong a lot of bro's here that are very knowledgable that haven't touched aas but this kid! Forget it!

BTW, if your gonna do inj anyways why not go w/eq. It'll be easier on your joints and will be perfect for what you want! Less shots too!

 

[genarr3]

I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're doing here. But don't expect the drugs to lean you out without a clean diet. Good luck.

 

[MR. BMJ]

If you are gonna do EOD injections, why not use test prop at 75-100mg/day and drink 50mg of winny per day?

BMJ

 

[Maxx Out]

If you are gonna do EOD injections, why not use test prop at 75-100mg/day and drink 50mg of winny per day?

BMJ

Damn, wish I would've thought of that one! Good one BMJ!

 

[haxedout]

why do u have to be a jackass doofy?

 

[Axe]

Holy fucking shit DOOFy

Are you actually that much of an asshole?!?! You ask a million and six questions half of which are moronic and people actually take the time to give you well thought out answers. You have the balls to give this guy shit who is asking an intillegent question. Fuck you you clown negative carma for your ass!!!

 

[guards]

eq/winny u will get fuckin hard and vascular!!!!!!! injectables !!!!

How in the fuck do you know this you little punk??? You've never even DONE a cycle let alone enough cycles to give you enough insight to give advice.

Please stop trying to give advice on a subject you know nothing about.