Lifting schedules on a cycle

[the_clockwork]

I've always done the each muscle once a week stuff but I always hear people say do each muscle 2x a week... what do you guys prefer?

I am referring to during a cycle not all natural!

 

[tdringo]

You might get more of a response if you post this on the AAS forum. I'm not on anything at the moment and train each body part once a week, On cycle I hit the same body part every five days. Back/Bi, Chest/Tri, Legs/Shoulders, off day and then repeat. But I have been thinking of doing a four day split next cycle. There are so many different opinions on overtraining and undertraining that it makes my head hurt to think about it. Can you overtrain on cycle? Some say yes, and some say no. I would like to here more opinions too.

 

[Guinness5.0]

1x/week is garbage. You need more frequency than that, cycle or no.

There are a million and one ways to set up training with higher frequency. A push/pull setup is a pretty good example. Something like:
Mon - push 'a':
Squat (straight sets, like 5x5, 3x8 or whatever), bench, inc. dbs, maybe some triceps stuff
Tues - pull 'a':
Rows, chins, power shrugs, biceps stuff

Thurs - push 'b':
Front squat, standing overhead press, weighted dips, triceps stuff
Fri - pull 'b':
Deads/GMs/RDLs (pick one), rows, pullups, biceps stuff

And of course you can overtrain on a cycle. Steroids aren't magic. The body recovers much more quickly while 'on' but is not immune to fatigue.

 

[petpre61]

You might get more of a response if you post this on the AAS forum.

you might get more responses but less quality ones

 

[Tweakle]

you'll get a bunch of retards telling you that you 'can't overtrain on cycle' and maybe someone trying to sell you bottled monkey piss for PCT

depending on your recovery & how hard you're hitting it then once every 3-5 days should work.. with a deload pre and post cycle

once every 7 days is fine if you're progressing fastest at that frequency, but that's usually only advanced lifters and brutal hardgainers

 

[Pikaberdot]

I'm doing pretty well off of this:

Day 1 - Chest+Tris
Day 2 - Back+Bis
Day 3 - Shoulders+Traps
Day 4 - Legs
Day 5 - Rest
Day 6 - Start over from Day 1
Day 7 - Start over from Day 2

 

[the_clockwork]

I'm doing pretty well off of this:

Day 1 - Chest+Tris
Day 2 - Back+Bis
Day 3 - Shoulders+Traps
Day 4 - Legs
Day 5 - Rest
Day 6 - Start over from Day 1
Day 7 - Start over from Day 2

I like this work out. This is what I am doing now and have been happy with results, I will probably stick with it.. The thing I hate though is I start with chest and by the time I'm done my tri's are so weak I can't really focus on them although next time I do chest/ tris I do tri's first. How do you deal with the weakness from working on one muscle before you work out the 2nd?

 

[HotMan]

looks like a Poliquin routine...5 cycle

 

[Pikaberdot]

I like this work out. This is what I am doing now and have been happy with results, I will probably stick with it.. The thing I hate though is I start with chest and by the time I'm done my tri's are so weak I can't really focus on them although next time I do chest/ tris I do tri's first. How do you deal with the weakness from working on one muscle before you work out the 2nd?

I alternate a primary Chest Exercise with a primary Triceps exercise.

Ex:

Flat BB Bench - 4x sets, 6-8 reps
Weighted Dips - 4x sets, 6-8 reps
Incline DB Bench - 4x sets, 6-8 reps
Incline DB Flyes - 4x sets, 6-8 reps
DB Triceps Extensions (or Overhead Extension) - 4x sets, 6-8 reps
Cable Crossovers - 4x sets, 6-8 reps

By then I'm usually pretty burnt out, and throw in some ab/oblique work in the end.