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HGH man--Chargeback
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I had used Simvasatin for a while, but I quit . My Cholestral was about 125 and I did'nt think I needed it anymore . Previously my cholestral was 139. Hdl and Ldl were both rock bottom ,so I said Fuck it! My Dr., still thinks I'm taking them. I did'nt know that they would help you on a Cycle ?
I took lipitor for 2 months. The first 4 weeks my cholesterol dropped 70 points. Took the next 4 weeks and it didn't drop any more. Since then, I've reduced my dosage from 1 10mg tab per day to 1/2 10mg tab EOD. I couldn't handle the joint pain and muscle ache it gave me, not to mention memory loss and decreases libido. I've been at the lower dosage for 2 months and all side effects are gone except for memory loss. Make sure you take milk thistle or ALA while on lipitor.
slackerdude
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Yup
In addition to lowering LDL, niacin raises levels of the protective HDL cholesterol. Also, levels of the blood fat triglycerides fall dramatically with niacin.
If your doc has you taking Lipitor, drop it and ask for Zocor, does not have the sides the Lip does. Even better is a statin-niacin combo. One study combining niacin with lovastatin (Mevacor) increased HDL levels 30% in first 4 mons; LDL levels dropped 45% and triglycerides fell 42%.
JB-do you any links to studies regarding inosital nicotinate/hexanicotinate as what I have read is contrary to what you have stated, so I'd like to know more.
In addition to lowering LDL, niacin raises levels of the protective HDL cholesterol. Also, levels of the blood fat triglycerides fall dramatically with niacin.
If your doc has you taking Lipitor, drop it and ask for Zocor, does not have the sides the Lip does. Even better is a statin-niacin combo. One study combining niacin with lovastatin (Mevacor) increased HDL levels 30% in first 4 mons; LDL levels dropped 45% and triglycerides fell 42%.
JB-do you any links to studies regarding inosital nicotinate/hexanicotinate as what I have read is contrary to what you have stated, so I'd like to know more.
Re: Yup
It seems there are numerous studies but I have been unable to even get their abstracts from medline. It has been used for hyperlipidemia and renaults syndrom, intermittednt claudation, but I have not seen any specific studies on HDL. I have been basing my opinion on the hundreds of reports from a google search but seemingly no referenceable studies. The closest I have come is this link that gives several references that I have not been able to track down. Check it out and see what you can do:
http://www.life-enhancement.com/displayart.asp?ID=7
Salem and Abdel M. The Role of Nicotinic Acid and Inositol Hexaniacinate as Anticholesterolemic and Antilipemic Agents. Nutr Rep Intl 28: 899-911, 1983
Welsh AL and Ede M, Inositol Hexanicotinate for Improved Nicotinic Acid Therapy, Int Record Med 174: 9-15, 1961
El-Enein AMA et al., The Role of Nicotinic Acid and Inositol Hexaniacinate as Anticholesterolemic and Antilipemic Agents, Nutr Rep Intl 28, 1983: 899-911.
Dorner V, Fischer FW. The influence of m-inositol hexanicotinate ester on the serum lipids and lipoproteins. Arzneim-Forsch 1961;11:110-113.
Sommer H. Nicotinic acid levels in the blood and fibrinolysis under the influence of the hexanicotinic ester of m-inositol. Arzneim Forsch. 1975;15:1337.
Mercier J, Gavend MR, Dessaigne S. Effect of inositol and its derivatives on hypercholesterolemic rabbits. Cong Union Therap Intern (Brussels). 1963;8:11.
Kruse W, Kruse W, Raetzer H, et al. Nocturnal inhibition of lipolysis in man by nicotinic acid and derivatives. Eur J Clin Pharmacol. 1979;16:11-15.
Hutt V, Wechsler JG, Klor HU, Ditschuneit H. On the effect of a combination of clofibrate and inositol hexanicotinate on lipids and lipoproteins in primary hyperlipoproteinemia types IIa, IV, and V. Arzneim Forsch. 1983;33:776-779.
I would likewise be interested in seeing any studies that show it to be ineffective.
jb
It seems there are numerous studies but I have been unable to even get their abstracts from medline. It has been used for hyperlipidemia and renaults syndrom, intermittednt claudation, but I have not seen any specific studies on HDL. I have been basing my opinion on the hundreds of reports from a google search but seemingly no referenceable studies. The closest I have come is this link that gives several references that I have not been able to track down. Check it out and see what you can do:
http://www.life-enhancement.com/displayart.asp?ID=7
Salem and Abdel M. The Role of Nicotinic Acid and Inositol Hexaniacinate as Anticholesterolemic and Antilipemic Agents. Nutr Rep Intl 28: 899-911, 1983
Welsh AL and Ede M, Inositol Hexanicotinate for Improved Nicotinic Acid Therapy, Int Record Med 174: 9-15, 1961
El-Enein AMA et al., The Role of Nicotinic Acid and Inositol Hexaniacinate as Anticholesterolemic and Antilipemic Agents, Nutr Rep Intl 28, 1983: 899-911.
Dorner V, Fischer FW. The influence of m-inositol hexanicotinate ester on the serum lipids and lipoproteins. Arzneim-Forsch 1961;11:110-113.
Sommer H. Nicotinic acid levels in the blood and fibrinolysis under the influence of the hexanicotinic ester of m-inositol. Arzneim Forsch. 1975;15:1337.
Mercier J, Gavend MR, Dessaigne S. Effect of inositol and its derivatives on hypercholesterolemic rabbits. Cong Union Therap Intern (Brussels). 1963;8:11.
Kruse W, Kruse W, Raetzer H, et al. Nocturnal inhibition of lipolysis in man by nicotinic acid and derivatives. Eur J Clin Pharmacol. 1979;16:11-15.
Hutt V, Wechsler JG, Klor HU, Ditschuneit H. On the effect of a combination of clofibrate and inositol hexanicotinate on lipids and lipoproteins in primary hyperlipoproteinemia types IIa, IV, and V. Arzneim Forsch. 1983;33:776-779.
I would likewise be interested in seeing any studies that show it to be ineffective.
jb
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