Let's discuss long cycles

[jerkbox]

How long would you consider a long cycle to be?

what are some pros and cons?

what ancillary drugs do you think are neccessary for a long cycle?

I am considering a 16 week cycle for my next. this will be my second cycle. First was 10 wk deca/winny. with this one I will be including Test, possibly fina, and possibly NPP, and maybe even var.

First cycle was pretty low dose - 300mg/wk deca and 40mg winny ED. I will be looking to keep my doses fairly low with this next one as well.


I was thinking something along these lines:

Test: 400mg/week 1-16
NPP 300mg/week 1-8
Fina 300mg/week 8-16

perhaps having enough NPP and var to finish out the cycle in case I don't react well to fina....

perhaps Test only for first half of the cycle....

I guess I have a lot to mull over yet and figure out, but I am really looking for some opinions on cycle length, recovery, drugs/supps needed, etc. feel free to comment on the sample cycle I have here as well.

 

[cdownie927]

I personally think that is a lot of aas for a 2nd cycle do something simple it will be just as effective you are going to have your whole life to juice just keep adding and changing each cycle and mg, I think you should be fine with 12 weeks but if you do a test/npp you could stretch it out for 16 just throw some hcg in mid cycle (im doing a 16 week for the first time starting in april but I have done 4 cycles already ranging from 10-12 and have got great results.

 

[jerkbox]

one fuckin response....christ....i shoulda asked if i could drink winny....woulda got more responses.

 

[RADAR]

I would run the test straight thru.


Now heres where i don't like stuff,Nandrolone & Fina shuts you down so i don't recommend those two together even if they are back to back.

I would run the NNP 1-10 and throw some anavar in toward the end.

Thats me tho!

RADAR

 

[jerkbox]

I would run the test straight thru.


Now heres where i don't like stuff,Nandrolone & Fina shuts you down so i don't recommend those two together even if they are back to back.

I would run the NNP 1-10 and throw some anavar in toward the end.

Thats me tho!

RADAR

so, you think fina could be a bad idea at the end of a long cycle? interesting. I like your suggestion.


what about HCG? a neccessity for a cycle this length?

i was hoping to spark some discussion here.....oh well.

thanks radar and cd

 

[muscleup]

Long cycles =6 months are longer...16 weeks=standard...

 

[Themachine01]

How much of a difference do you guys think there would be, in terms of recovery, between a 12 weeker and a 16 weeker? The longest Ive ran is 12 weeks thats why Im asking.

 

[rjl296]

hcg is a must

 

[RADAR]

How much of a difference do you guys think there would be, in terms of recovery, between a 12 weeker and a 16 weeker? The longest Ive ran is 12 weeks thats why Im asking.

Wasn't much difference to me but alot depends on what is being run,such as EQ it starts doing its work after 10 weeks.
Post recovery has alot to do with it also.
I had much rather over kill on PCT than not.
Heres why, a good cycle costs big bucks...why not spend a bit more to solidify every hard gained pound of muscle you can.

HCG and post cycle along with unleashed from Protein Factory.


RADAR

 

[Themachine01]

the main reason Ive never ran anything longer than 12weeks is due to the fact that I have seen so many different techiques of using HCG. I have no trouble recovering from 12 weekers with clomid, but if I went longer I would be a little concerned about how to use the HCG correctly.