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letro and/or adex for pct

nomad12

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I will be coming off a 8 week at 300mg/wk cycle and wondered if adex or letro can be used for pct instead of nolva or clomid.
 
No they can't. You should run clomid and nolvadex. 300mgs of what?
 
Mr.X said:
No they can't. You should run clomid and nolvadex. 300mgs of what?

Sure it can, i recovered in 3 weeks off 16 weeks of deca using only letro, tribulus, and creatine.

LEt is a potent stim of natty test post cycle.

Your best bet is to use let and clomid (prefer it over nolva...nolva gives me nut problems for a while after i stop....load problems). Clomid makes you shoot gyezers.


Clomid 100mg 10 days, 50mg 10 days
Let 1.25mg ED 30 days......bet you will be fully loaded after that.
 
bigrand said:
Sure it can, i recovered in 3 weeks off 16 weeks of deca using only letro, tribulus, and creatine.

LEt is a potent stim of natty test post cycle.

Your best bet is to use let and clomid (prefer it over nolva...nolva gives me nut problems for a while after i stop....load problems). Clomid makes you shoot gyezers.


Clomid 100mg 10 days, 50mg 10 days
Let 1.25mg ED 30 days......bet you will be fully loaded after that.

Letro (or any other AI) may be a potent stimulator of natty test production in case studies but not in the state your in posy cycle.

AI's prevent the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Post cycle you have no testosterone production so an AI does next to nothing.

A SERM, on the other hand, like clomid or nolvadex will block estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus and cause an increase in the production of all sex hormones (including testosterone).

The reason a SERM works for PCT is that the pituitary can produce estrogen directly and when your sex hormones are low, this process goes into overdrive (this is what causes rebound gyno even after a cycle is over). An AI does nothing to combat this since the estrogen is not coming from the aromatization of testosterone. However, by blocking this elevated estrogen with a SERM, you force your body to resume endogenous testosterone production sooner.
 
nydj66 said:
Letro (or any other AI) may be a potent stimulator of natty test production in case studies but not in the state your in posy cycle.

AI's prevent the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Post cycle you have no testosterone production so an AI does next to nothing.

A SERM, on the other hand, like clomid or nolvadex will block estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus and cause an increase in the production of all sex hormones (including testosterone).

The reason a SERM works for PCT is that the pituitary can produce estrogen directly and when your sex hormones are low, this process goes into overdrive (this is what causes rebound gyno even after a cycle is over). An AI does nothing to combat this since the estrogen is not coming from the aromatization of testosterone. However, by blocking this elevated estrogen with a SERM, you force your body to resume endogenous testosterone production sooner.


Is this true? I thought Femera would reduce Estrogen lvls in your body no matter how they got there......?

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Is this true? I thought Femera would reduce Estrogen lvls in your body no matter how they got there......?

rizz
Femera does nothing to estrogen once its already been produced. Its a very powerful aromatase inhibitor, but thats all it does...it prevents test converting to estrogen.
 
nydj66 said:
The reason a SERM works for PCT is that the pituitary can produce estrogen directly and when your sex hormones are low, this process goes into overdrive (this is what causes rebound gyno even after a cycle is over). An AI does nothing to combat this since the estrogen is not coming from the aromatization of testosterone. However, by blocking this elevated estrogen with a SERM, you force your body to resume endogenous testosterone production sooner.

this is not correct.
 
Goldprospector said:
Did you have blood test done or were you just judging the way you felt?


No blood tests, but it was the longest cycle ive ever ran and i felt recovered the fastest after any cycle. I know blood tests would be better, but i know my body pretty well, balls were totally full size, full sex drive, and kept my gains. I had no S/S of hypogonadalism.
 
nydj66 said:
Letro (or any other AI) may be a potent stimulator of natty test production in case studies but not in the state your in posy cycle.

AI's prevent the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Post cycle you have no testosterone production so an AI does next to nothing.

A SERM, on the other hand, like clomid or nolvadex will block estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus and cause an increase in the production of all sex hormones (including testosterone).

The reason a SERM works for PCT is that the pituitary can produce estrogen directly and when your sex hormones are low, this process goes into overdrive (this is what causes rebound gyno even after a cycle is over). An AI does nothing to combat this since the estrogen is not coming from the aromatization of testosterone. However, by blocking this elevated estrogen with a SERM, you force your body to resume endogenous testosterone production sooner.
good post bro
 
no its not a good post. Rebound gyno is caused by high E to T levels. ALL (for purposes of this conversation) oestrogen is produced via either aromatization or sulfation (both of which are blocked by AI's).

so its completely innaccurate to say "An AI does nothing to combat this since the estrogen is not coming from the aromatization of testosterone". (though the latter part is slightly true, though not in the way that the poster meant, its not all coming from testosterone but also from DHEA, androstenediol, androstenedione, etc...)
 
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