Lestat has a decision to make career wise

[Lestat]

This will be long, I warn you now. I'll post cliff notes at the end.

So I work as a Programmer Analyst, specifically in the field of Data Warehousing and IT. I am a Business Intelligence developer, and I know some ETL, I have extensive knowledge of SQL PL/SQL, financial systems and accounting processes.

I work for a large fortune 500 company and I have been here 8 years, I've been in my current role for nearly 5 years (but I have been promoted two times so its not like my career has not been advancing).

The pros to my job now are that I work 40 hours a week, that's it. Its low stress, I know the people here and the systems I work on well. I'm going to be promoted in this current position again (to senior level) by the end of the year.

I am being offered another position within the company. They want to leverage my existing skills, so I would be doing SIMILAR work, but it would be for a fast paced, dynamic group in one of the business units. Right now I work for corporate, an overhead department.

The new position has more room for growth, and it is possible that I would become a manager in the not so distant future. I would get a raise/promotion immediately too.

Here's the downside, I'd likely be working 60 hour weeks, that's 50% more!! I would have higher stress, less time EF (I know this is a plus for you all), but less time for the rest of my life too.

So I am leaning towards the new position. I am comfortable where I am, I love it, but I think its time to stretch myself a bit and do some serious career advancement. I do really well right now, but I live in San Diego so it doesn't go very far. More $$$$ is a big motivator, and working for a new group will be exciting.

I'm curious to see what intelligent thoughts there are out there about this.

I will red anyone who makes a flippant, sarcastic, disingenuine, retarded, or asshole comment. Thats 110% x 2300+ so keep that in mind. No exceptions.


Cliff notes:
Should I stay in my current position where I am guarenteed a promotion within the next 6 months
OR
Should I take a new position in the same company and get that promotion a little earlier, get more room for growth but work 20 extra hours a week (40 hours to 60 hours)

bullshit posts on this thread get 110% red.

 

[Phenom78]

You mentioned a promotion 6 months from now at your current company. What would be the probable pay/work hours increase tied to that one Lestat?

 

[KillahBee]

It's all about the type of person you are and what motivates you. Do you want to challenge yourself and take the new posish, or do you want to stay with the status quo? It's all up to you my man. Personally, I would HAVE TO take the new spot just for my sanity. I need to be challenged and I need new experiences in my career. But some people are truly happy with the 40hr work week and having time for a life.

FUCK, I didn't think they made jobs 40 hours a week!!! 60 hours is a slow week for me. But, I have no life...But, I love work.....

 

[Lestat]

You mentioned a promotion 6 months from now at your current company. What would be the probable pay/work hours increase tied to that one Lestat?

no, the promotion here would not mean more hours. More responsibility, yes, but not neccsarily more hours. Corporate departments don't work a ton of overtime.

And both positions are within the same company, one is within the corporate division (support role) the other is in a business unit (a big profit center, they actually make money).

 

[Raptorex]

stay until there are no more growth opportunities.

 

[Smurfy]

Id say you should challenge yourself. Now is the time to do that. You are a single man. Do it.

 

[Lestat]

Id say you should challenge yourself. Now is the time to do that. You are a single man. Do it.

that is what I am thinking.

 

[theoak01]

try out the new oppourtunity man,keep things fun

 

[Lestat]

stay until there are no more growth opportunities.

I have a lot of room for growth in the current role, BUT it would be MUCH MUCH slower in coming.

Plus in the current role the bonuses are not as big as we do not actually make any money.

 

[redguru]

Since you know this new position is going to increase your hours, renegotiate the new position's salary based upon the increased workload.

 

[nycgirl]

Get off the carousel and hop on the roller coaster.

If you have an opportunity to stretch yourself, go for it. You don't have anything keeping you from taking this job.

60hrs a week isn't that bad.

 

[Lestat]

Since you know this new position is going to increase your hours, renegotiate the new position's salary based upon the increased workload.

yeah, it will come with a 10% bump or so, maybe more, but the real bonus is the rapid room for growth. My manager has been in her same position here for nearly 10 years. over at the new position I could be a manager in 2-3 years.

 

[Phenom78]

For what it is worth Lestat my instinct has always been advance or perish. Don't get pegged as the static guy. As importantly any opportunity to broaden your skill base and resume should be grasped. Sixty hours is a pretty light work week in just about any corporate environment. Advance while you are young or you'll end up watching younger guys pass you by in the future.

 

[Lestat]

thanks for the sincere replies everyone.

 

[stilleto]

lestat- this is the time in your life where you don't have anything to lose and should go for it.

you aren't married with a family who depends on you to be home, etc. Go for the new job, meet new people, see where you go.

 

[Mr. dB]

Is the pay increase consistent with the increase in work hours?

 

[thelion2005]

You have a "window of opportunity" opened before you. When this happens, you must take advantage of it.

All management and executive level positions are over 40 hours per week. I always put in many hours over 40 and even more if traveling. You'll need to drop the "40 hour" mentality. Perks and future promotional opportunities are the offset.

In my experience, corporate level always had more status and clout than local business units/plants. Make sure you can come back to corporate in the future. Make usre you have the blessing and support of your current bosses.

Go for the new job and the promotion. You are still continuing to build your resume and this change is progress.

 

[Delinquent]

If you, for some reason, value working more than living life, go for it. If you would like to live life more, negotiate for less hours or start looking for another place of employment that may pay a comparable salary with less hours then use that as leverage(sp?) against them. It's all about living life to me so if my job gets in the way of my personal life, I either find another job or career all together. I'd rather make less, sacrifice a lot of toys so I can travel, spend time with my wife and animals, friends etc.

 

[jimmy d]

go for it

 

[Lestat]

You have a "window of opportunity" opened before you. When this happens, you must take advantage of it.

All management and executive level positions are over 40 hours per week. I always put in many hours over 40 and even more if traveling. You'll need to drop the "40 hour" mentality. Perks and future promotional opportunities are the offset.

In my experience, corporate level always had more status and clout than local business units/plants. Make sure you can come back to corporate in the future. Make usre you have the blessing and support of your current bosses.

Go for the new job and the promotion. You are still continuing to build your resume and this change is progress.

thanks.

Here, the business units have FAR more prestige and clout because they are actually bringing in money.

Corporate runs as LEAN as they can, lower bonuses, lower raises, and when its time to lay off people they look to cut corporate jobs when possible!


Mr. DB. No the increase in pay isn't directly correlated to the increase in work. I'll still be being paid for 40 hours, I'm salaried, so much like most company jobs, they pay you for 40, but you typically work above and beyond that routinely.

 

[Dial_tone]

I took my current job because it was 40 relatively stress free hours. If I moved somewhere new, didn't know anybody I wouldn't mind throwing myself into my work. Right now I have interests outside of work that require time (school, triathlon). Now I'd say no, 5 yrs from now I might say yes. I could always do with another $15K year but I'm not down with 60 hour weeks unless that includes telecommuting and/or time in airports.

 

[gjohnson5]

thanks.

Here, the business units have FAR more prestige and clout because they are actually bringing in money.

Corporate runs as LEAN as they can, lower bonuses, lower raises, and when its time to lay off people they look to cut corporate jobs when possible!


Mr. DB. No the increase in pay isn't directly correlated to the increase in work. I'll still be being paid for 40 hours, I'm salaried, so much like most company jobs, they pay you for 40, but you typically work above and beyond that routinely.

I will ditto all that people have said.
There should be no fear of failure , but there will be plenty of "what if's" in your mind for not trying

Go for it


In my case I always wanted a gov't job because I don't have to worry about who's bringing in money and who ain't. It's all tax payer dollars anyway...

Noone works overtime unless something is seriously wrong.

Go for yours whenever possible

 

[heatherrae]

I would consider where you want to be ultimately within the company. If being at the top of the new dept is your ultimate goal, I would move there. If the department that you are in is ultimately where you want to be, even if the advancement is slower, I would stay there.

Plus, consider whether the 60 hour work weeks are what you want long term. If it is a short term thing, I would muscle through it, but if it is going to always be like that, ask yourself if you have the sort of personality that you would like this.

I personally wanted out of the 60 hour work weeks and got out recently.

 

[chewyxrage]

This time of your life you should be focusing on advancement. Find an easier less stressful job when your 50 and making a shit ton more money than you would be if you stay where you are currently.

 

[NJjuice22]

Killahbee hit the nail on the head bro. It all depends on you. Me personally..my job is just a source of income to me, if I was comfortable at my current position and the pay was competitive I would stay. like he said though..if you feel the need to be challenged and the new position seems somewhat secure once you get it..go for it.

 

[Mr. dB]

Mr. DB. No the increase in pay isn't directly correlated to the increase in work. I'll still be being paid for 40 hours, I'm salaried, so much like most company jobs, they pay you for 40, but you typically work above and beyond that routinely.

No, no, no, what I was asking is if the pay increase is roughly equal to the increased work hours? If you're working 40 hours now and will be expected to work 150% of that, will your pay be 150% of what you're getting now? Or at least have the potential to?

If not, then I think it's a sucker deal.

 

[Island Son]

"fast paced, dynamic" is usually "disorganized, chaotic" and that's a no-no. But if they're making money, that's usually where you want to be.
is the 60+ hours likely to continue for a long time (say 10 years?)
are the long hours because it's necessary, or because they enjoy running you into the ground? If you're allowed to set up some processes to save time, it'd be a good reason to move....
does this new position move you in the the direction you want to go, what would you be qualified for and want to be managing after 5 years?

 

[hawaiianflash]

I had to make the same decision about 4 months ago. There are some issues you should think about:

-Is the company you are going to the equivalent or better than the company you are at now (if not then forget it)?
-You said you'd get promoted in 6 months (in your current company)... what kind of raise would come with that?
-Who will you be working under at the new company? (Is he/she smart and driven enough so that you can ride their coattails into management?)

Working 20 extra hours a week is a lot for a small raise. Your raise better be in the 30% range to make this move worth it. Because of that, I'd recommend staying put until you get promoted, then leaving. In my choice, I stayed, and got promoted w/a 30% pay raise. Patience will pay off...


flash.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Take the oppertunity you will likely not be working 60 hour weeks forever and the potentail with this role seems far better.

 

[awittyusername]

Take the position where you work more, and post on Elite the least

 

[Lestat]

Take the position where you work more, and post on Elite the least