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Lennox Lewis punks out..

I agree, he is afraid to fight him. He doesn't know how to deal with someone who is bigger then him.

I just hope this isn't a ploy to get more money for a figth between the two. You know, Klitschko wins the belts that are up for grabs so then they offer big money for Lewis to fight him, not like this hasn't happened before.
 
Bigdawg1468 said:
I agree, he is afraid to fight him. He doesn't know how to deal with someone who is bigger then him.

I just hope this isn't a ploy to get more money for a figth between the two. You know, Klitschko wins the belts that are up for grabs so then they offer big money for Lewis to fight him, not like this hasn't happened before.

I think they're pretty much the same size.

Klitschko would have won the last fight if it had not been for that goddamn cut on his eye.

I do not want him to be thought of as in the same class as Rocky Marciano and Gene Tunney.
 
lewis is a couple of inches shorter. But he was had never fought someone with good skills who was bigger then him. He always had to fight down to opponent not up.

He might be the best of his generation but he can't be compared to the greats of the past. No bloody way!
 
i still am bitter about that fight.

i really don't like lewis at all. I don't care if he's the champ or not. When you talk that much shit, you had better back it up.
 
gymrat said:
i still am bitter about that fight.

i really don't like lewis at all. I don't care if he's the champ or not. When you talk that much shit, you had better back it up.

Same here, I hate when a fight like that has to get called.
 
gymrat said:
i still am bitter about that fight.

i really don't like lewis at all. I don't care if he's the champ or not. When you talk that much shit, you had better back it up.

I hear ya, the arrogant prick shoulda fought him again as he was getting his ass beat!
 
Dammit!!! I wanted to see a rematch where Vitali tore his ass apart. How can someone with such an ego bitch out like that
 
I think Lewis will go down as a top 5 fighter of all time. The fact that he isn't American and has a bland personality will tarnish his image with some fans. As far as what he ahieved, only Marciano outdid him. He beat every single opponent that he faced. Lewis is a great fighter and Klitschko still has a long way to go before being compared to Lewis. Much to prove. Lewis is 38 years old, and has nothing left to prove. He should retire. Lewis defeated Tyson with ease and Holyfield, the 2 other great heavyweights of the era, he was also able to handle common opponents with greater ease.
 
I could beat Lewis in a street fight using my famous headlock, but that isn't boxing.
 
Lewis is nearly 38, won everything there is to win. He has made millions on the way and invested well. He fought everyone there was to fight. His desire and hunger has gone and so retired with dignity which i am sure many wish they had done. In terms of being frightend by Klitschko i think not. Has he got the desire / hunger to fight him again i think not.

He has retired with respect and not become the freak show many others have (e.g. Tyson. Foreman etc etc)

Wrognun!
 
Imnotdutch said:
I wonder if people would be talking so negatively about Lewis if he was american :rolleyes: .

I would, I don't care where he's from.

Fact is that he would have lost his last fight, everyone knows that.

He wants to weasal out while being the champion.

BTW, I don't think that Klitschko is american, just a fighter who would've been champion.
 
the only knock I can find on Lewis is that he never really had a career defining rivalry during his career. Tyson was at the end of his career, Rahman really isn't anything special. He was an unexciting fighter is a boring era for heavyweight boxing. but he did have one of the most devistating left jabs in the history of boxing (which added to the boring nature of his fights).

Anyway, to take the Klitchko fight, lewis would be risking more than he would be benefiting. Not many pro fighters retire on top.

BTW heavyweight boxing sucks (for now anyway).
 
I'm not a huge Lewis fan, but I don't hate him like the majority does. I couldn't stand the way he wouldn't get up for his lesser fights and that caused him to get his ass beat. And he doesn't have a very good jaw either. With that said he is/was a great fighter. I dunno about calling him an all time great champion because I think the all time greats always gave everything they had. He doesn't really have anything else to prove though. He's beaten everyone he's fought and he's getting up there. Where is the written you have to leave the boxing all beaten up and brain damaged. Look at Ali and check out Holyfield now and in a few years he's gonna be even worse. I met the man and he didn't seem like was all there.
 
Uhhh guys...I have a newsflash for you all, who are saying "he would've lost that Vitali Klitchko fight". HE FRIGGIN WON. What's all this shoulda coulda woulda shit?! He won! He busted the guys eye wide open, and stood toe to toe with Klitchko, while taking a serious beating in the process--and WON. Again, in the process, he managed to rip open one of the WORST above-the-eye cuts I have ever seen--and he WON!

At the time of the fight, I was pissed too, because I wanted to see what the outcome might have been had the fight been able to continue. But the facts are as follows--Vitali couldn't continue. The cut was that bad. Lennox won. Deal with it.

As far as him being one of the top 5 fighters of all time though--that is a joke.
 
Lennox was not getting his ass kicked by Vitali, the judges all had it scored 3 rounds to 2 for Klitchko when the ref made the call to stop the fight in the 6th. There was not a single knockdown; that's hardly a lopsided beating. The other thing to consider is that Lennox won the last 2 rounds and there was no indication of things getting better for Vitali. Lennox adjusted for his height and started landing hard rights which openned 3 cuts that looked like menstruating vaginas on Vitali's face. Even if the ref didn't call it, I think Vitali would have gotten KO'ed within a few rounds. It sounds pretty silly to say something like, "If it wasn't for the TKO, Vitali would have won the fight."

Lennox is going out a champ near the peak of his game. He's beaten a generation of heavyweights and not ducked any contenders. For years people, including Tyson, ducked him.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Lennox was not getting his ass kicked by Vitali, the judges all had it scored 3 rounds to 2 for Klitchko when the ref made the call to stop the fight in the 6th. There was not a single knockdown; that's hardly a lopsided beating. The other thing to consider is that Lennox won the last 2 rounds and there was no indication of things getting better for Vitali. Lennox adjusted for his height and started landing hard rights which openned 3 cuts that looked like menstruating vaginas on Vitali's face. Even if the ref didn't call it, I think Vitali would have gotten KO'ed within a few rounds. It sounds pretty silly to say something like, "If it wasn't for the TKO, Vitali would have won the fight."

Lennox is going out a champ near the peak of his game. He's beaten a generation of heavyweights and not ducked any contenders. For years people, including Tyson, ducked him.

A few things bro:

1. I have to seriously disagree with you about Lennox not getting his ass beat. He was definitely in trouble thoughout the entire fight. It was a wonder he didn't get knocked down, because he looked to be out on his feet for many of the rounds. That is my whole point though. How do you fault a guy for standing there and throwing down, while taking that severe of a beating??!! Not to mention in the process, he manages to rip a huge cut in the dudes eye! He fought like a champ, and he won the damn fight. He deserved to win that fight.

2. The "menstrating vagina" thing--Hilarious. I spit out my Copenhagen after reading that.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Lennox was not getting his ass kicked by Vitali, the judges all had it scored 3 rounds to 2 for Klitchko when the ref made the call to stop the fight in the 6th. There was not a single knockdown; that's hardly a lopsided beating. The other thing to consider is that Lennox won the last 2 rounds and there was no indication of things getting better for Vitali. Lennox adjusted for his height and started landing hard rights which openned 3 cuts that looked like menstruating vaginas on Vitali's face. Even if the ref didn't call it, I think Vitali would have gotten KO'ed within a few rounds. It sounds pretty silly to say something like, "If it wasn't for the TKO, Vitali would have won the fight."

Lennox is going out a champ near the peak of his game. He's beaten a generation of heavyweights and not ducked any contenders. For years people, including Tyson, ducked him.

You must not have seen the fight, bacuse you are the ONLY person that I've ever heard say that Lewis wasn't losing the fight.
 
Atomic Punk said:


A few things bro:

1. I have to seriously disagree with you about Lennox not getting his ass beat. He was definitely in trouble thoughout the entire fight. It was a wonder he didn't get knocked down, because he looked to be out on his feet for many of the rounds. That is my whole point though. How do you fault a guy for standing there and throwing down, while taking that severe of a beating??!! Not to mention in the process, he manages to rip a huge cut in the dudes eye! He fought like a champ, and he won the damn fight. He deserved to win that fight.

2. The "menstrating vagina" thing--Hilarious. I spit out my Copenhagen after reading that.

Lennox was in serious trouble in the 2nd round, Vitali wobbled him with an uppercut. It wasn't an easy fight for him, but he still won. I don't think we're disagreeing on anything.
 
Last great heavy weight my ass. Fuck you Lennox, I wanted the sequal with Klitschko. I would put money on Tyson over Lewis anyday after the first fight with Klitschko.
 
Sebby said:
I would put money on Tyson over Lewis anyday after the first fight with Klitschko.

:lmao: You must be kidding, that has to be one of the dumbest comments i have heard LOL.

Tyson has been good in over 8 years LOL. Tyson looked like a rank amateur when Lewis pummeled him :lmao:
 
Sebby said:
Last great heavy weight my ass. Fuck you Lennox, I wanted the sequal with Klitschko. I would put money on Tyson over Lewis anyday after the first fight with Klitschko.

Why would you put your money on Tyson, when Lennox beat the ugly out of Mike already? Damn bro, your bookie must drool when he sees your number on the Caller ID eh?!:p :rolleyes: ;) :D :confused:
 
biteme said:
I could beat Lewis in a street fight using my famous headlock, but that isn't boxing.

you got beat up everyday in highschool now your claiming you can beat Lewis up. You couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag. Stop kidding yourself! sucka!
 
If I was a boxer when I first turned pro I would write down the number of fights I plan to retire after and stick to that number regardless.
 
TC2 said:


You must not have seen the fight, bacuse you are the ONLY person that I've ever heard say that Lewis wasn't losing the fight.

I said that the judges all had it scored 3 rounds to 2 for Vitali before the stoppage in the 6th. This means Vitali was ahead in points by the stopage. Obviously winning 3 out of 5 rounds means Vitali was winning, but it isn't a blowout. Also if Vitali's pounding on Lewis was totally lopsided, how did those 3 huge gashes appear on Vitali's face?
 
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The end of the day Lewis did what he had to do when it was asked. He was on a particulary hard fight with Klitschko but the ONLY thing that counts is that he won end of story. A rematch we will never know but hey just think lewis may hit that scar tissue again and finnish it in 2? Bottom line Lewis does not have the hunger or need to live a boxers life. I am sure if Tyson's finances were intact he would have retired as well to try and save what if any dignoty he had left. IMHO Holyfield was the real deal but now is embaressing himself and has the finance to retire and should.

What did Lewis do weong in his career? not fightling Ridick Bowe IMHO but his decision to retire as one of the greats was well timed and he has nothing to prove from the era he was champion

Wrongun!
 
He already BEAT the guy. You can makea billion excuses fora ny loss.

He has nothing else to prove. He's 41-1 for crying out loud!

Best to ride off into the sunset still a champion then after a loss and a career that's gone.
 
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Wrongun said:


What did Lewis do weong in his career? not fightling Ridick Bowe IMHO but his decision to retire as one of the greats was well timed and he has nothing to prove from the era he was champion

Wrongun!

Bowe ducked him. Bowe vacated his title rather than fight Lennox. BTW Lennox KO'ed Bowe in the amateurs.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:


Bowe ducked him. Bowe vacated his title rather than fight Lennox. BTW Lennox KO'ed Bowe in the amateurs.

Yea Lennox won gold meal in Seoul 1988 Olympics over Bowe, Bowe was always scared of him after that.
 
mike tyson is the best fighter of all times..

its unfortunate that so many people fucked him along the way.
 
Mike Tyson isn't the best heavyweight of all time, let alone the best fighter of all time. He has glaring weaknesses that Buster Douglas brought to everyone's attention. He certainly isn't a bum though.

Interestingly with Lennox out of the picture, it would be a hoot to see Tyson become 'The Man' in the heavyweight division again.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Mike Tyson isn't the best heavyweight of all time, let alone the best fighter of all time. He has glaring weaknesses that Buster Douglas brought to everyone's attention. He certainly isn't a bum though.

Interestingly with Lennox out of the picture, it would be a hoot to see Tyson become 'The Man' in the heavyweight division again.

I'm sorry but in my opinion mike tyson is in the top 3 of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Everyone always jumps on the "tyson sucks" bandwagon but you have to look at it this way. The tyson of 88 was the MOST DEVESTATING FORCE in the HISTORY of boxing!! He lost the douglas fight granted, he hadn't trained because he was going through his divorce and alot of other shit, not trying to make excuses why he didn't however douglas shouldn't have been there in the 10th his ass got a 14count in the 8th when tyson knocked him down and they should have called the fight then. But I digress.

People say ali would kill tyson I say they are smoking crack, frazier gave ali all he could handle in 3 fights and tyson is a stronger, faster, bigger frazier with better movement he would have knocked ali out. Everyone can jump on ali's nuts like usual and ali was a GREAT heavyweight probably overall in the two but I still dont' think he is better than a prime tyson.

Lewis is a fucking joke guys, he has fought who?? Every number one contender?? Holyfield when that fucker should be in a wheelchair with a nurse not in a ring with gloves on, a zoloft induced tyson that looked like a serene cow in a pasture that was content to just take a beating instead of risking a foul that could have cost him his purse.

On the other hand he was KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT by oliver mccall and haseem rachman who while having decent punches are surely no world beaters. He beat who?? Knocked out razor ruddock, frans botha, andrew golotta, tua who wasn't throwing shit, ray mercer "I thought mercer beat him", and vitali was beating his ass I don't give a FUCK what the judges said 3-2 it was 4-1 at least, and that glove scraping his eye to open up the cut in the first place hardly impresses me. Do you guys actually watch boxing or just listen to sportscenter and fill in the blanks?? Lewis isn't even in the top 5 heavyweights ever hell I don't even think he is top 10. He beat everyone in his era admittedly the weakest heavyweight era EVER and he still managed to get knocked out twice and is lucky he retired before he got knocked out again. Fuck lewis he blows ass and if you people actually watched his fights and realize who he has actually fought you would realize it to.
 
"Fuck lewis he blows ass and if you people actually watched his fights and realize who he has actually fought you would realize it to."

I always thought lewis was/is a "good" fighter.

I not impressed with a fighter that has only one strenght, which is his jab.

And yes Tyson in his prime before his head got messed up was one of the greatest.
 
Who did Tyson devastate? An over the hill Larry Holmes? Michael Spinks, as a puffed up light heavy weight? Such hall of famers as Pinklon Thomas and James Tillis? I don't get it. The level of competion isn't there to warrant the ranking. Tyson isn't a bum, but he is no top 5 all time heavyweight; neither is Lennox Lewis. I don't see how you can say Lewis sucks because he fought nobodys then claim Tyson reigns supreme when he fought nobodys.

Lewis has more than just a jab. He has good defense skills and an absolutely murderous right. He KO'ed Tyson with that right and Tyson has an iron jaw.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Who did Tyson devastate? An over the hill Larry Holmes? Michael Spinks, as a puffed up light heavy weight? Such hall of famers as Pinklon Thomas and James Tillis? I don't get it. The level of competion isn't there to warrant the ranking. Tyson isn't a bum, but he is no top 5 all time heavyweight; neither is Lennox Lewis. I don't see how you can say Lewis sucks because he fought nobodys then claim Tyson reigns supreme when he fought nobodys.

Lewis has more than just a jab. He has good defense skills and an absolutely murderous right. He KO'ed Tyson with that right and Tyson has an iron jaw.

I agree with these comments. Towards the top of my rankings would be Georg Foreman. Look atthe opponents he had (yes he lost to Ali) but look at his whole career. None that i can think of he did not meet and win. There is an all round fighter. Anyone who is champ is good but best of all time needs more IMHO

Wrongun!
 
Tyson is very susceptible to a taller boxer/puncher with a good jab who is not afraid of him. Now we never saw Tyson fight a great fighter when he was in he prime so it's all speculation on how he would have done against them. But regardless the greatest of all time doesn't get knocked out by Buster Douglas I don't care what you say. Tyson didn't devasted any of the truly worthly oppents he faced, Razor Ruddock, Holyfield or Lewis. He was beated by the last 2 and Buster Douglas do I really need to get into that?

Now don't get me wrong, it's not Tyson's fault that he fought a bunch of tomato cans. That's all that were around at the time. Still a truly great champion has a great mind. They can figure out ways to get themselves out of trouble. Tyson certainly doesn't have that. When ever he's been in trouble he's lost the fight.
 
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