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How long do you guys usually cycle for?
Length Of Cycle Poll!!!!!!
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Willyumyum
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current cycle is 12 weeks, next one will be 16... I'm going to have some fun 
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Let's hear some results, too!
Post the results for your super long cycles - I personally believe that if you front load, eat right and train with proper frequency and intensity that it is BETTER to go 2 on, 4 off for a whole year than to do a few super long cycles per year (I.E. 16 weeks 2X per year).
Why?
HTPA shutdown is completely bypassed using the 2 on, 4 off strategy, for one. You reduce the amount and severity of side-effects, for two. And finally, the most muscle mass and strength (provided you frontload!!!) is generally gained in the first two weeks.
With 2 on, 4 off, you can gain an easy 8-10 lbs. of completely solid weight every six weeks - and what's more, since your HTPA is never shut down HARD, you won't lose that mass half as easy (if you're smart, you'll probably keep most all of it).
That's 30-80 lbs. of keepable LBM in a year, and you're "on" only 1/3 of the time. And plus, it is MUCH easier to avoid gaining fat with this strategy. Not to mention the fact that your nuts will be fine in comparison to what will happen to them after a 16 week cycle (yikes!)
What do you bro's think?
Post the results for your super long cycles - I personally believe that if you front load, eat right and train with proper frequency and intensity that it is BETTER to go 2 on, 4 off for a whole year than to do a few super long cycles per year (I.E. 16 weeks 2X per year).
Why?
HTPA shutdown is completely bypassed using the 2 on, 4 off strategy, for one. You reduce the amount and severity of side-effects, for two. And finally, the most muscle mass and strength (provided you frontload!!!) is generally gained in the first two weeks.
With 2 on, 4 off, you can gain an easy 8-10 lbs. of completely solid weight every six weeks - and what's more, since your HTPA is never shut down HARD, you won't lose that mass half as easy (if you're smart, you'll probably keep most all of it).
That's 30-80 lbs. of keepable LBM in a year, and you're "on" only 1/3 of the time. And plus, it is MUCH easier to avoid gaining fat with this strategy. Not to mention the fact that your nuts will be fine in comparison to what will happen to them after a 16 week cycle (yikes!)
What do you bro's think?
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Fortes, I'm sorry but you are dreaming.
1. There will still be HPTA shut-down. Yea, it will be a lot less than a long cycle but it still will happen to a degree.
2. You will not gain 8-10lbs of solid mass per 6 week (2 on 4 off) cycle. There is no way your body can synthesize that much muscle in the 2 weeks while on. Water sure - but not muscle. I'd say maybe 4-6 lbs is more accurate.
3. This cycling pattern is not sustainable like you purport. 80lbs a year? No way. We all wish, but in this respect, your cycling theory (like all others) must comply to the unfortunate rule of diminishing returns.
1. There will still be HPTA shut-down. Yea, it will be a lot less than a long cycle but it still will happen to a degree.
2. You will not gain 8-10lbs of solid mass per 6 week (2 on 4 off) cycle. There is no way your body can synthesize that much muscle in the 2 weeks while on. Water sure - but not muscle. I'd say maybe 4-6 lbs is more accurate.
3. This cycling pattern is not sustainable like you purport. 80lbs a year? No way. We all wish, but in this respect, your cycling theory (like all others) must comply to the unfortunate rule of diminishing returns.
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Polfa/Jelfa
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You guys cycle.....? 
This is my 2nd cycle...... it started kind of bad....swithcing around so total will be around 15 weeks.....mmmmm......on the other hand i may do a deca/test/ and something else cycle right after for total of about 25 weeks =)
This is my 2nd cycle...... it started kind of bad....swithcing around so total will be around 15 weeks.....mmmmm......on the other hand i may do a deca/test/ and something else cycle right after for total of about 25 weeks =)
