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Lasix Diuretic Question

GeneticFreak18

GeneticFreak18

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Does anyone have experience competing and know anything about diuretics?
I was told to start Lasix (supposively the best) 10 days out from showtime...does anyone recomend what dosage? 20mg, 40mg, 80mg? let me know, please onyl answer if you have experience.
 
10 days???

negative bro..
2 days is more than enough to lose all water.
 
well good thing i asked on elite
i talk to guys around the gym and most dont know what the fuck they're talking about
what dosage would you say?
 
ok dont take my advice as etched in stone but if contest day is saturday, then on thursday you would take 20mg in the a.m, 20mg later that day..
and friday same thing...

another 20mg saturday morning???

bump for the pros.
 
thanks for the info, whether its right on the dot or not, better than nothing and sure as hell better than the 10 day advice i got yesterday! lol
 
You only need to use Lasix the night before. I prefer injectable intravenous to the tabs. The tabs are too unpredictable. Use Aldactone starting on Monday before the show and then Lasix to lose the last bit on Friday night.
 
I got a question. What is Lasix?
I know Jay Cutler got fined for testing + for it before some comp, but that's the first I've heard of it. Can anyone fill me in?
 
chefbone said:
I got a question. What is Lasix?
I know Jay Cutler got fined for testing + for it before some comp, but that's the first I've heard of it. Can anyone fill me in?
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It's an aggresive diuretic used pre contest to get that dry shredded look
 
dont use lasix, its known for pulling out intra-muscular water as well as sub q, so you end up small and flat, and its not potassium sparing, so can be dangerous. Get your hands on diazide, or aldactone
 
needsize said:
dont use lasix, its known for pulling out intra-muscular water as well as sub q, so you end up small and flat, and its not potassium sparing, so can be dangerous. Get your hands on diazide, or aldactone
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i was planning on taking it day before and morning of supplementing with 800mg potassium each time
 
GeneticFreak18 said:
what dosage and how would you run the other two you mentioned needsize?
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diazide, I would start wed night, or thurs morning, and run 50mg 2x daily, last time I did that I came in shredded and as dry as possible. You also need to manipulate water as well
 
needsize said:
diazide, I would start wed night, or thurs morning, and run 50mg 2x daily, last time I did that I came in shredded and as dry as possible. You also need to manipulate water as well
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I have to diagree with you on this one bro. Dyazide has caused lots of problems in athletes that I've been around or worked with. They only used it because they couldn't get anything else. On the athletes that I've had use Lasix under my methods I haven't had any problems. I'm not a fan of Dyazide, but I realize that everyone has their own opinion. That's just mine.
 
i dont have any for you right now, i will 3 weeks from now though.
sitting at 210lbs at 5'9
i did a show 16 months ago and only have pics from then
 
Makavelli said:
I have to diagree with you on this one bro. Dyazide has caused lots of problems in athletes that I've been around or worked with. They only used it because they couldn't get anything else. On the athletes that I've had use Lasix under my methods I haven't had any problems. I'm not a fan of Dyazide, but I realize that everyone has their own opinion. That's just mine.
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what kind of problems? I've never heard of any. All the competitors that I know use either that or aldactone. The only ones I know that use lasix are pro level guys, and they use it IV, which takes a lot more knowlege than I have, but is supposed to be much more effective
 
needsize said:
what kind of problems? I've never heard of any. All the competitors that I know use either that or aldactone. The only ones I know that use lasix are pro level guys, and they use it IV, which takes a lot more knowlege than I have, but is supposed to be much more effective
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Needsize i can tell you the trend as of late is aldactone and nothing else except water and sodium manipulation. Problem with this is you usually have to have a prep guy prep you because of the unique approach to this. If one must use lasix IV lasix is the best way to go because it hits you fast and it is much easier to time this. Oral version is outdated because the digestion process. One guy, the lasix may start working in 1 hr the next guy it may take 4. With IV everyone is the same.
 
PM box is cleared, i dont think you need to plan what diuretic your going to take more than 4 weeks out, which is when i started worrying about it, too much other shit on my mind at this point.
 
concordsize said:
Needsize i can tell you the trend as of late is aldactone and nothing else except water and sodium manipulation. Problem with this is you usually have to have a prep guy prep you because of the unique approach to this. If one must use lasix IV lasix is the best way to go because it hits you fast and it is much easier to time this. Oral version is outdated because the digestion process. One guy, the lasix may start working in 1 hr the next guy it may take 4. With IV everyone is the same.
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That's correct and why I prefer injectable intravenous Lasix injection. It's predictable. I know that w/in 30 minutes the guy will be in the bathroom. With tabs it may take hours to take effect. Then if you need to adjust the dosage to increase diuresis you're basically guessing how much one should take. Using diuretics for contest prep is the most difficult part of it. Think about what we're trying to do: Achieve a full, hard, dry, striated look. That means filling up the muscles with glycogen, via a properly designed carb load, then dropping water by eliminating it and introducing a diuretic such as Lasix to get rid of the extracellular water, all the while keeping the muscle bellies full.
 
I knew lasix IV was the best way to go, but at this point I'm not ready to stick anything in my veins
 
I think i'm going to run the aldactone mon-thurs and then switch to lasix the night before and morning of. What mg aldactone should i run and how much potassium per day should i take in for mon-thurs?
 
GeneticFreak18 said:
PM box is cleared, i dont think you need to plan what diuretic your going to take more than 4 weeks out, which is when i started worrying about it, too much other shit on my mind at this point.
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No but you should start thinking about sodium manipulation and keeping your water balance level.
 
Makavelli said:
That's correct and why I prefer injectable intravenous Lasix injection. It's predictable. I know that w/in 30 minutes the guy will be in the bathroom. With tabs it may take hours to take effect. Then if you need to adjust the dosage to increase diuresis you're basically guessing how much one should take. Using diuretics for contest prep is the most difficult part of it. Think about what we're trying to do: Achieve a full, hard, dry, striated look. That means filling up the muscles with glycogen, via a properly designed carb load, then dropping water by eliminating it and introducing a diuretic such as Lasix to get rid of the extracellular water, all the while keeping the muscle bellies full.
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Ok Ok please lets not discuss carb loading lol. We will end up battling all day and night lol. By the sounds of it you carb load very traditionally which is good. Basically load carbs FIRST while then ridding water. I go the other way. Water out first carb load last.
 
Ok i am very worried about people reading this forum who may take aldactone who dont know SHIT about electrolyte balance. If you take aldactone and 2 much potassium you CAN die! Please know what your doing before messing with this stuff.
 
concordsize said:
Ok Ok please lets not discuss carb loading lol. We will end up battling all day and night lol. By the sounds of it you carb load very traditionally which is good. Basically load carbs FIRST while then ridding water. I go the other way. Water out first carb load last.
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I actually carb load in a very unorthodox way. Most do the opposite of what I recommend simply because that's the way it's always been done. If one loads after dropping water you may pull a little water into the muscle, but you will not fill out optimally. Different people need different strategies, but one must always keep in mind that you need to look your best. The best BB wins, which is not always the driest. If you dry out so much that you're flat and your muscles don't pop out and another competitor isn't quite as dry, but overall looks thick, full, and hard the latter will get the nod assuming similar sturcture, muscle bellies, etc.

And yes GeneticFreak, don't take in potassium until you use the Lasix. High potassium levels have put lots of athletes in the emergency room including Mustafa Mohammed and Bob Chic.
 
concordsize said:
i told you im done talking about carb loading lol. This shit drives me nuts and i feel very strong about my methods. :)
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Hey bro, I'm not trying to get into a discussion about carb loading techniques. Whatever works is good, but I was correcting you about my loading methods since they're not the norm.
 
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