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Mysterio

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I've been with the same women for almost 4yrs now. The 1st year was great. She would show me she cared and she loved me but not just telling me how she feels but also was able to make me feel it. Then we go through issues together she chnaged. Most of it was her wrong doing. Even though she did me wrong time after time, I stayed around because I love her. She's done things like I've planed to take her out and she would make plans to go see her friends, on my brithday she'd go to work but for family and her friends she would get the time off to be there for them, she come out to me and said she dosen't really feel like sleeping with me at all most of the time now, and the sad part of this is we could be in the same room and it wouldn't be any different if she was there. Take in mind, I've put up with alot. I was there for her all this time. Through her feeling bad about the way she looks, through her lying to me about things, for her lack of affection for me, to her saying I cheated when I didn't, when she is emotional wreck. What is going on here? I did everything right.
 
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Mysterio said:
I've been with the same women for almost 4yrs now. The 1st year was great. She would show me she cared and she loved me but not just telling me how she feels but also was able to make me feel it. Then we go through issues together she chnaged. Most of it was her wrong doing. Even though she did me wrong time after time I stayed around because I love her. She's done things like I've planed to take her out and she would make plans to go see her friends, on my brithday she'd go to work but for family and her friends she would get the time off to be there for them, she come out to me and said she dosen't really feel like sleeping with me at all most of the time now, and the said part of this is we could be in the same room and it wouldn't be any different if she was there or not. Take in mind I've put up with alot. I was there for her all this time. Through her feeling bad about the way she looks, through her lying to me about things, for her lack of affection for me, to her saying I cheated when I didn't, when she is emotional wreck. What is going on here? I did everything right.


Uh yea....so I didn't read the post but you're avi is hot.
 
Well -- sounds like you wanted to do all the right things to make her happy, but she just floated & took it for granted. And now she's not so excited anymore. Maybe she stayed with you because you propped her up about her insecurities and all -- but here's the thing about relationships -- its great that you have these strong feelings for her and you do everything right - the problem is that you aren't getting that back. Regardless of how much I "love" someone, its no fair that I have to do all the work - it takes two and I would want someone who would go as far out of their way for me as I would for them. She isn't willing to do that for you. That makes her a waste of your love, efforts and time. Maybe doesn't make her a bad person, but its no fair to you at all. You are already indicating that you are feeling "used" in the sense that you aren't getting back what you feel you are entitled to simply out of common decency for all that you've given of yourself.

One thing I've discovered in life (I been around the block a few times...) -- situations that may appear complex are usually very simple. Most fundamentally there are issues that arise from lack of communication either on both parts or on one part where all you know is what you perceive and then you draw conclusions or confusion in trying to interpret the other person's side within the context of what you see & feel. But unless you talk to the other person and are able to have an open conversation, you can't really know what is going on in the other person's mind. The second is how you both spend your time -- you make time for the things that are important to you. She is obviously important to you - but maybe you aren't as important to her. That sucks but instead of feeling like you have problems in your relationship, maybe this just isn't the right relationship for you. Is it worth building up this feeling of not getting the due attention that you feel and should expect from a healthy relationship that will ultimately turn into resentment and further lack of communication, when you could get out of that and maybe focus on someone who is worth your time & attention and returns it in the same way that you want to give it?

Giving people give a lot and often give at their own expense - you can't expect a certain level of return from someone when you give yourself -- often you need to temper the degree of giving w/ your expectations of what you receive. This is how a friendship starts out - you give strictly for the satisfaction you derive from giving. If you get more in return, that means its a mutual satisfaction that can grow. If you dont', then you are probably just getting used or the person isn't interested in that way.

This reminds me of the episode of Sex & the City where Miranda discovers the concept of "He's just not into you" when guys dont' call back. Women's approach to that is they hang on but get further and further away. I think its further confused by the fact that women are not often real clear about what they want from their lives & themselves. So they get wishy washy. This chick has demonstrated that she's not reliable and because you are always there regardless of all the shit she pulls, she keeps doing it.

IMO -- dude it sounds like you're very dedicated and loving - but she's not worth your time. Its not your job to enable someone like that who doesnt' respect you enough to be responsible for herself and be truthful to you. Have that much respect for yourself to demand that sort of treatment from someone you are willing to give that much to.

Good luck!
 
Guys always think they "did everything right."
Why are you asking for advice if you're sure she's the problem? By reading your post it sounds like you've already made up your mind that it's not going to work out because of her issues.
You can't change her, so why not look at what you can do to make the relationship better, if you want it to get better.
It sounds to me like there's something she's not telling you, like she's holding a resentment towards you about something. Try talking to her about that. Be open and loving so she is comfortable being vulnerable with you.
Good luck.
 
Mysterio said:
I've been with the same women for almost 4yrs now. The 1st year was great. She would show me she cared and she loved me but not just telling me how she feels but also was able to make me feel it. Then we go through issues together she chnaged. Most of it was her wrong doing. Even though she did me wrong time after time I stayed around because I love her. She's done things like I've planed to take her out and she would make plans to go see her friends, on my brithday she'd go to work but for family and her friends she would get the time off to be there for them, she come out to me and said she dosen't really feel like sleeping with me at all most of the time now, and the said part of this is we could be in the same room and it wouldn't be any different if she was there or not. Take in mind I've put up with alot. I was there for her all this time. Through her feeling bad about the way she looks, through her lying to me about things, for her lack of affection for me, to her saying I cheated when I didn't, when she is emotional wreck. What is going on here? I did everything right.

The relationship is over.

You both contributed to the demise and seems to me that neither of you wish to take any responsibility for your actions or reactions.

It's over - move on.

And don't start dating anyone else until you get your head together.
 
velvett said:
The relationship is over.

You both contributed to the demise and seems to me that neither of you wish to take any responsibility for your actions or reactions.

It's over - move on.

And don't start dating anyone else until you get your head together.

Yeah - exactly what she said.
 
badgergrl said:
Guys always think they "did everything right."
Why are you asking for advice if you're sure she's the problem? By reading your post it sounds like you've already made up your mind that it's not going to work out because of her issues.
You can't change her, so why not look at what you can do to make the relationship better, if you want it to get better.
It sounds to me like there's something she's not telling you, like she's holding a resentment towards you about something. Try talking to her about that. Be open and loving so she is comfortable being vulnerable with you.
Good luck.


Maybe that's it. The thing that bothers her the most is me trying to get close to her. I mean she makes me feel bad if I stare at her or try touching her, and when i go to kiss her she won't even open her mouth. Is that bad that I'm showing my affection and showing her I'm attracted to her? Another would be her parent's. Her parents never liked me always made it clear they wanted us apart. You know not good enough. I've said things about her mom that I've shouldn't have said out of fustration. Yeah it's hard for her to talk to me. I wish there was a way she could...hell even I don't know what to say sometimes. I wish knew how she really feels about me.
 
Sassy69 said:
Well -- sounds like you wanted to do all the right things to make her happy, but she just floated & took it for granted. And now she's not so excited anymore. Maybe she stayed with you because you propped her up about her insecurities and all -- but here's the thing about relationships -- its great that you have these strong feelings for her and you do everything right - the problem is that you aren't getting that back. Regardless of how much I "love" someone, its no fair that I have to do all the work - it takes two and I would want someone who would go as far out of their way for me as I would for them. She isn't willing to do that for you. That makes her a waste of your love, efforts and time. Maybe doesn't make her a bad person, but its no fair to you at all. You are already indicating that you are feeling "used" in the sense that you aren't getting back what you feel you are entitled to simply out of common decency for all that you've given of yourself.

One thing I've discovered in life (I been around the block a few times...) -- situations that may appear complex are usually very simple. Most fundamentally there are issues that arise from lack of communication either on both parts or on one part where all you know is what you perceive and then you draw conclusions or confusion in trying to interpret the other person's side within the context of what you see & feel. But unless you talk to the other person and are able to have an open conversation, you can't really know what is going on in the other person's mind. The second is how you both spend your time -- you make time for the things that are important to you. She is obviously important to you - but maybe you aren't as important to her. That sucks but instead of feeling like you have problems in your relationship, maybe this just isn't the right relationship for you. Is it worth building up this feeling of not getting the due attention that you feel and should expect from a healthy relationship that will ultimately turn into resentment and further lack of communication, when you could get out of that and maybe focus on someone who is worth your time & attention and returns it in the same way that you want to give it?

Giving people give a lot and often give at their own expense - you can't expect a certain level of return from someone when you give yourself -- often you need to temper the degree of giving w/ your expectations of what you receive. This is how a friendship starts out - you give strictly for the satisfaction you derive from giving. If you get more in return, that means its a mutual satisfaction that can grow. If you dont', then you are probably just getting used or the person isn't interested in that way.

This reminds me of the episode of Sex & the City where Miranda discovers the concept of "He's just not into you" when guys dont' call back. Women's approach to that is they hang on but get further and further away. I think its further confused by the fact that women are not often real clear about what they want from their lives & themselves. So they get wishy washy. This chick has demonstrated that she's not reliable and because you are always there regardless of all the shit she pulls, she keeps doing it.

IMO -- dude it sounds like you're very dedicated and loving - but she's not worth your time. Its not your job to enable someone like that who doesnt' respect you enough to be responsible for herself and be truthful to you. Have that much respect for yourself to demand that sort of treatment from someone you are willing to give that much to.

Good luck!

Yes, I've stayed around all this time wishing she would be the same person I once knew. I'm starting to want to walk away because not my lack of love for her but how she makes me feel everyday. It makes no sense at all. She tells me she loves me but can't make me feel that no more. Like a candle in the dark I've stayed lighted up for her. I was a light that was always on. I deserve way more then whats she given just having a hard time with my feelings within my heart to come to grasp.
 
Mysterio said:
Yes, I've stayed around all this time wishing she would be the same person I once knew. I'm starting to want to walk away because not my lack of love for her but how she makes me feel everyday. It makes no sense at all. She tells me she loves me but can't make me feel that no more. Like a candle in the dark I've stayed lighted up for her. I was a light that was always on. I deserve way more then whats she given just having a hard time with my feelings within my heart to come to grasp.

People and things change sometimes - It sounds like you need to resolve the situation w/ her and get some direction one way or the other - where you are now is not healthy for either of you and a waste of time. Either she's into it at this point or she's not. It sounds like she's either using you or is just wishy washy enough to not let go.

I still think the first and last thing you should do is respect yourself and remind her that either she respects you enough to be worth your respect for her or she's not and move on.

And like Vel said - give some time for yourself too - its not your job to do all the work for someone else - that's not a growth-oriented relationship. Its just enabling co-dependence. Find someone who complements you as much as you complement them and see if you can make something really great of it. There's no rush to get that - so enjoy your life & be happy w/ yourself.
 
Mysterio said:
Maybe that's it. The thing that bothers her the most is me trying to get close to her. I mean she makes me feel bad if I stare at her or try touching her, and when i go to kiss her she won't even open her mouth. Is that bad that I'm showing my affection and showing her I'm attracted to her? Another would be her parent's. Her parents never liked me always made it clear they wanted us apart. You know not good enough. I've said things about her mom that I've shouldn't have said out of fustration. Yeah it's hard for her to talk to me. I wish there was a way she could...hell even I don't know what to say sometimes. I wish knew how she really feels about me.

If she's pulling away from you like that then that's a bad sign and maybe just doesn't want to say out loud she wants out, so is hoping all these little things will add up for you & YOU will be the fall/bad guy & end it so she won't have to....
 
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