Lab results on testosterone

[jc24_24]

Please weigh in on this debate. My buddy has been on AAS (mainly testosterone) for the better part of 10 years. Blast (up to 750mg/week) and cruise (200mg/week). Currently he is running 600mg per week of test p. Recently he has been pretty ripped and reasonably strong but his weight is off (lost maybe 10 lbs with no change to diet).

Initially we both thought that maybe his body was acclimating to the synthetic testosterone and it was not having the same effect at the dosages he is used to. With that said, he had a hormone profile done and his labs came back to show 478 ng/ml out of a 250-1100 range. Also his free testosterone was 71.2 of a 35-155 pg/ml range. Both normal, but not even high-normal.

Now my thought is that his gear is under-dosed or bunk, but he still thinks that it might have to due with his body being used to exogenous testosterone. My logic is if it was the testosterone not having the same effect any longer that dosages at 600mg per week would still show high on the lab results, but that he might not have similar physical results to the earlier years.

What do you guys think? Is the gear bad or is it conceivable that he could be taking over a half gram of a testosterone with a short ester and his lab results still be in normal range?

 

[stevesmi]

over time you will not react to androgens the same way as you get used to it plus you mature as a man.

having said that in this case I bet it has more to do with his source, then anything. we are seeing more and more sources putting out underdosed gear.. not always their fault but because the raws are coming from china and being more and more diluted. if I am him I show my source these results and demand my money back politely, and then find a new source. a good source tests their batches before selling it and this batch he got is definitely underdosed. if he is taking over 500mg a week of test his levels should be in the 3000's or more.. not in the 400's.

 

[zmyj88]

Agree, its the gear if he's THAT low. Yes, your body acclimates, but cruising properly should minimize that

 

[banana monkey]

I agree very underdosed... I was getting in the low 2000's on a cc and a half of 400 mg eth every 7-9 days..

 

[jc24_24]

Thanks fellas. So now that you agree with me, I am going to throw a wrench in the engine.

He only uses pharmaceutical gear (now) and got a bulk order of S.I.T. lab (from Italy) test p. This is what he has been running. I looked them up and they seemed legit, but they could be a glorified UG lab, I am not sure. Do any of you have any experience? Also, they could be fakes too which is a possibility.

The only thing that I can think of that might be a contributing culprit is scar tissue. Keep in mind that I have been out of the game for a long time (since he started his 10 year run) and back then there was talk about scar tissue lessening the effectiveness of gear absorption. Since he has been running at less one glute shot per week (sometimes up to 5 with suspension), could that be an influencing factor? Again, I just couldn't see it impacting the absorption to a degree that his test levels were in the 400ng range but thought that I would throw it out there to cover his basis. Any thoughts?

 

[polarbear1134]

Nothing short of BS gear is going to cause your levels to be 1/10th the expected value.