kynoselen

[bar]

I got a news letter saying it is the shit for cutting, so befor I start my research for more info on it, I thought I would throw it out here and see what you guys think. It originated in france and main purpose was for aids patients. suppose to increase anabolism/anti-catabolism, increase atp production and side affect is fat loss.

Any takers?
Any info?

 

[drrman]

JUNK, save your money

 

[GREY WTR]

Kyno

Bar:

I wouldn't say Kyno is junk, it has it's place, but it does not get you ripped as some are saying. I've used it for 2 years now and can say it does help with recovery, big time, it increases vascularity (of course you have to be lean for that to happen), ramps up metabolism, which along with cardio, fatburners etc, will help you get lean. The best way I could describe it is as a weak Anabolic, good for use with cycle or between to help you stay anabolic, and it does all this w/o messing up your hormonal axis. It's kinda like a super charged creatine, in regards to the AMP thing.

Belive me when I first started using it I was hoping all the "get Shredded" reports were true, but alas. But you will notice, I am still using it so it is a positive for me, some products are more subtle in how they work, not everything has a dramatic effect.

What are your goals?

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Re: Kyno

Bar:

I wouldn't say Kyno is junk, it has it's place, but it does not get you ripped as some are saying. I've used it for 2 years now and can say it does help with recovery, big time, it increases vascularity (of course you have to be lean for that to happen), ramps up metabolism, which along with cardio, fatburners etc, will help you get lean. The best way I could describe it is as a weak Anabolic, good for use with cycle or between to help you stay anabolic, and it does all this w/o messing up your hormonal axis. It's kinda like a super charged creatine, in regards to the AMP thing.

Belive me when I first started using it I was hoping all the "get Shredded" reports were true, but alas. But you will notice, I am still using it so it is a positive for me, some products are more subtle in how they work, not everything has a dramatic effect.

What are your goals?

man bro id like to hear more about your kyno experience, ive got some of it, but ive never been lean enough i guess to get those effects, do a search on the heptaminol or however you spell it, youll get some interesting information on what that drug is classified as

 

[baza]

I know a guy here who competed last summer and swears by it. It said while taking it alone, and dieting, he was stronger than before he started dieting, and on a cycle.

 

[Miracle Man]

Junk, who said that? The stuff is GREAT, better than Winny hands down in some ways. AIDS patients? who said that? WRONG, I work with AIDS doctors, they never herd of it. This stuff is so underated its a joke. 1-1.5cc ed or 2-3cc eod works great. You will see a difference in your muscle stamina, strength will maintain if not increase, and if you do cardio, you will see a noticable difference in cardiac output and stamina. Its cost effective and legal to buy. I would check it out. Don't be fooled by the active ingreadiance, there are two agents in there that give it's anabolic effect and ati-canabalisim effect.

 

[brotheriron]

Sorry miricle man but Kyno is used in France to treat aids patients, they introduced it about two yrs ago, instead/ aswell as HGH.
Ive used it, not for long enough tho, did find it to be a painful shot.
Where do you guys order it from, France??
Bro

 

[liftsiron]

I agree with those that say kyno is worthless JUNK.

 

[Miracle Man]

Sorry miricle man but Kyno is used in France to treat aids patients, they introduced it about two yrs ago, instead/ aswell as HGH.
Ive used it, not for long enough tho, did find it to be a painful shot.
Where do you guys order it from, France??
Bro

Sorry brotheriron, I did not know you were refering to the usage of Kyno in France. I live in the USA, I am medical sales representitive and see AIDS doctors all day long. Here in the USA they do not use kyno for HIV/AIDS patients. Miss-understanding.
I buy the Kyno here in USA. I guess they imported in from France or wherever. I still beleive that this agent is great.

I would not compare Kyno to Deca, Fina or others in that class of AAS. I would not substitute it for another AAS like I mentioned. It definitly has its place. Bridging and maintance is were its best utalized. If you do any type of cardio, you will feel the positive effects of Kyno. I have. I always keep 500cc around at all times. For those that feel it junk, maybee you underdosed yourself or you did not stay on it long enough or maybee you just don't respond to it. Enything is possible.

 

[GREY WTR]

Kyno

JuicedMullet:

I don't check this board that often so I missed your post.

I agree with Miracle Man, Kyno is a very good maybe a great bridge supp. It can help you get lean if you have a clean diet, but unlike ECA where you can almost eat whatever you want and still lean out, I don't feel Kyno works that strong, of course I am older so my metabolism is not very fast anyway.

It also increases your energy, but not in a jittery ECA way, it will also help with your recovery.

Lot's of folks like to knock products they aren't willing to fork out the money to try.

Are you on cycle now or between?

Dosages I use are 3cc, every 3 days. I typically recommend to start with say 1cc, just to see how folks react to it. The shot is painful,, oh well.

btw, I have tried to get info online about the Heptiminol (spell?) and the other ingredients, I've check Medline, etc, can't really find much, if you do find info please let us know, maybe send me a email with link.

 

[reallyfitguy]

I fully agree w/GREY WTR.

I have been taking a whopping 10cc's of kyno ED for almost 12 weeks now and I think it is definitely a worth while supplement and cheap if u know where to get it. I also think that most users do not notice the effects of it because they take too little or don't have as low a bf%....

 

[gsxr600]

but it has pictures of bulls and cows, how can you say its junk??

i say save your money..

 

[StoneColdGold]

You will see a difference in your muscle stamina, strength will maintain if not increase, and if you do cardio, you will see a noticable difference in cardiac output and stamina.

sounds like a perfect in-season supplement to me. does it matter where you inject? in other words, does it sort of "supercharge" the muscle into which you inject? or are the effects more systemic? also how bad is the injection pain? could i inject the day of a game or would i be to sore? i'd love to try this stuff out during two-a-days and see if it helps with my cardiovascular conditioning!

 

[StoneColdGold]

come on guys, a little help! has anybody used kyno sub-q? would this be as effective? if injections cause too much pain for me--i can't limp through practice-- sub-q would be easy to do.

 

[GREY WTR]

Stonecoldgold

Sounds like you are a football player, right? Kyno would be a good product for you to try. It will give you energy, increase the whole ATP what not, and will allow you to recover much quicker from your practices. It is also an Anabolic which is not being tested for, I assume you are NCAA.

I would not use Sub-Q, have heard a couple of instances of problems, could just have been something they did, but just do deep IM like AAS. Glutes are the best place, it can be a "sore shot", but much less that Sustonon. Usually a mild burning sensation which goes away rapidly. Sure, you could shoot the day of a game, should give you tons of energy, you will feel like you can go and go somemore. Do the shot early enough in the day just to be sure, and as you dab w/Alcohol, message the area real good to disipate the fluid. I have tried doing my shoulders before but, the Glutes are a much better option.

Hope this helps.

 

[HULKSTER]

Kyno is great! I take it easy,so I stack 25 mg of Anabol w/ 1-2CC's of Kyno. But one word of advice: don't listen to GREY WTR who says he uses 3CC's every 3 days. The most effective way of using kynoselen is to spread out the dosage. It would be better to use 1CC a day, then 3CC's every three days. Also, you have to stack Kyno. Kyno will give you increased strength, moderate LEAN mass growth and cut, but if you REALLY want to get strong and add on some serious mass, then stack D-Bol with Kyno. But that's just me, I like to take things easy. You'll probably come across some hard-core, crazy fuckin' veteran who'll tell you that I take things much too easy. Newbie, when you see some crazy fuck telling you to stack 50mg of D-bol with 6 CC's of Kynoselen, just immediately leave that thread. Don't poison your mind, and BODY, with crazy shit. Yeah, you'll get significantly bigger stacking like a fucking crazy fool, but you'll also have a liver damage, go bald, and have testicles that are the size of kid's playing marbles. Those same fools will tell you I'm an ignorant person using scare tactics, that as long as you take an anti-estrogen while on cycle you'll be okay...yeah right... and whatever you do, TAKE CLOMID after the cycle. No point in going through a cycle if you lose a significant amount of gains afterwards.

 

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Is 100mL bottles for $75 a rip-off?

 

[brotheriron]

Yeah cos its about 30 if you know where to look. But im not allowed to post that kind of info (ask the mods)
Bro

 

[[email protected]]

Sh*t, I think the stuff is legal since I see it on E-Bay from time to time. I'll keep looking.

 

[[email protected]]

Checked my source. He gets it for about 65USD. Found some AU sources for 30 but it was in AU. Too far and payment is a pain!

I'll just bend over and pay. If it helps a little great. If not, just another pinhole.

I hear yay and nay on Kynoselen no matter where I read. Some swear it's junk, some say it's great. What the hell, may as well try it. If it does nothing I'll never know. Just from the content it seems to be good. I guess a vitamin for 1/40th the price could be "good" to.

 

[HULKSTER]

Bro, REAL KYNOSELEN at $75 per 100mL is a good deal. The reason why you can find cheaper kynoselen is because it's of a CHEAPER QUALITY. It's that shit called Kyno-H, the supposedly "safe, human" form of regular kynoselen. Problem is, "KYNO-H", for humans, has taken out all the properties that make it work in the first place. So if you want to save some money by buying that garbage Kyno-H, go ahead. You might as well inject some soiled toilet water into your body.

 

[[email protected]]

Yea, Kyno-H is flooded all over. More of that crap pro-hormone rip off stuff. A simple web search turned up the real one.

(a popular auction web site) is still selling it too I think, so at least I'll be OK to actually get it if the guys feedback is good. I am surprised they haven't flagged it or the finaplex on auction yet.

Some poor nubie will be walking around the gym with a clip on his ear and starting to moo!

 

[GREY WTR]

response to Mike79

Hate to disagree w/you, but 3cc every 3 days is in line with the regimen that Vet Doc's use for animals (Kyno is a Vet product btw) taking in 1cc/day is fine for those that love using lots of pins & sticking themseves DAILY, no thanks. But that is fine for you, but please base your comments on facts. So, you are taking in 7ccs/week, I am using 6cc.

On the product itself, the recommended dosing cycle is "1 Injection once every 3 days (I didn't just pull that out of the air)then once a week for 2-3 weeks". The product stays in your system longer than 24hrs.

Then if you do the math per kg, and compaqre w/say a large Dog, 3cc is a very mild, safe dosage. I have used this dose for over 2 years, your method is fine, 1cc/day. But, don't make a comment that someone is wrong or doesn't know what they are talking about, w/o something to back it up. Read the side of the box, dude.

 

[StoneColdGold]

grey wtr:

awesome info bro. its greatly appreciated. i think i'm gonna give this a try. i am a football player, yes, but not ncaa. i'm coming up on my second season as a pro. i learned after one year how cuthroat pro ball is, so i'm willing to spend some cash for the chance to get a cardio/stamina boost. i'll start the kyno during 2-a-days and see how it feels. i've been through enough pre-season camps to know what they usually feel like. i'll be able to tell if i've got an extra kick.

mike:

thanks for the input. i think i might stack the kyno with a small d-bol dosage during camp. maybe only 15-20mg of d-bol per day. i'm already 306 lbs, so i definitely don't want to add mass. but with a clean diet and the 4 hours of cardio a day i'm doing, i think i could lean out nicely with the kyno/dbol stack.

 

[[email protected]]

$45 shipped.

 

[GREY WTR]

reply: Stonecoldgold

grey wtr:

awesome info bro. its greatly appreciated. i think i'm gonna give this a try. i am a football player, yes, but not ncaa. i'm coming up on my second season as a pro. i learned after one year how cuthroat pro ball is, so i'm willing to spend some cash for the chance to get a cardio/stamina boost. i'll start the kyno during 2-a-days and see how it feels. i've been through enough pre-season camps to know what they usually feel like. i'll be able to tell if i've got an extra kick.

Stonecold..

Would suggest you use the Kyno for a week or 2 prior to the start of camp, just to get used to it. When I first started using it, I would sometimes get a little flushed, not uncomfortable, just felt alittle warm. Anyway, I would start with a low dose first week, then work up. Also, the whole Dbol thing, arent they starting the random drug test in camp. Wouldn't want you to put yourself in a situation. Or is the whole testing thing more of a ruse, kinda wonder 'cause some of the guys are quite thick, I don't know how some of these guys hold thier size throughout a pro season. Hope your season goes well.

 

[doctor proctor]

it works diffrently on every one.

 

[40butpumpin]

How do you know which is the real deal?