Klonopin

[cat_fish]

I've read post after post about Klonopin and other benzodiazepines and Im here to tell you to stay the fuck away from that shit!

I took 1 mg for 2 years and tried to stop cold turkey and when I did I literally lay curled up in a fetal position on my sofa for 3 weeks. I suffered thru w/d symptoms for over a year they were so bad that I had to reinstate... thats right after a year I was still screwed up.

I reinstated at .125 mgs 6 months ago and am now paying the price again. My system has became accustomed the .125 mgs and now wants more and just like a heroin addict if I dont feed it more it my system responds by causing dizziness, loss of short term memory and blurred vison, the dizziness has gotten so bad that Im afraid to drive and come Monday I'll more than likely have to be admitted into the hospital so I can detox even after that I'll still suffer from w/d symptoms.

Believe me when I say your playing with the devil when you start using any and all benzodiazepines.

Heres some of the symptoms of benzo w/d

Anxiety
Somatic symptoms of anxiety
Depressed mood
Depersonalisation, derealisation
Sleep disturbance
Hypersensitivity to touch, pain
Tremor, shakiness
Paranoid reaction
Headache
Muscular aches, pains, twitches
Convulsions

Benzo w/d

 

[d_o_c_]

Great Post

 

[jdvert]

yea bro I understand where your coming from all drugs have their place and good uses withdraw effects are a bitch.you know the saying for every postive reaction there is a negative reaction. shit look at the commercails take this to cure this than at the end you add 10 things that you dint have before.

 

[immortalis]

Klons always made me sick when I took them. I prefer Xans

 

[cat_fish]

Klons always made me sick when I took them. I prefer Xans

Bro I've got some bad news for you Xanax is even worst. Sorry

 

[racoon_city]

moderation is the key

 

[cat_fish]

Racoon thats just it with any and all Benzo's moderation has nothing to do with it. Its not like heroin its much worst. Once you start its all down hill.

 

[tboy72]

does trazadone fall into the benzo category? b/c i am prescribed those for insomnia but i wonder if it will be hard to quit.

 

[bootneck]

What is klonopin?

 

[solidspine]

Out of curiosity why were you taking Klonopin?

Trazadone is not addictive and works great for insomnia, but you build a simple resistance within a few weeks.

I have been on Xanax, for at least 10 years, it took me about 6 months to get off entirely.

I honestly did not believe you could ever get off Xanax, , until I really tried, wasn’t that bad just took a lot of time and patience.

 

[camshaft]

just dont get addicted............i enjoy benzos the same way i enjoy alcohol, i use it in moderation..........

 

[scout69]

I just took about 12mg worth of Klonapin,and I also take valums xanax etc..I'll stop for weeks on in and never ever have problems

 

[racoon_city]

I just took about 12mg worth of Klonapin,and I also take valums xanax etc..I'll stop for weeks on in and never ever have problems

bro withdrawls start about 4-5 weeks post usage!

 

[itlnstln]

I just took about 12mg worth of Klonapin,and I also take valums xanax etc..I'll stop for weeks on in and never ever have problems

12mg - that's WAY too high a dose for even the WORST panick attacks - so it's not that.

Do you think you may be just popping tons of benzos as a recreational type of thing?

 

[64Pilot]

I would suggest when weening yourself off of a drug, use something else for the first few days. Even if you need to smoke weed, drop a valium etc.... I remember weening myself of lortabs, and I would wake up in the middle of the night fists clenched, sweating balls off, and wanting to kill someone

 

[racoon_city]

scout69 is going down the wrong road fast. bro get a grip..take them as prescribed!!

 

[itlnstln]

scout69 is going down the wrong road fast. bro get a grip..take them as prescribed!!

seriously - you "appear" to have a substance abuse problem, and adding AAS to the mix is just going to take you down a path that will take YEARS to come back from.

I would say that your substance abuse also goes along with a serious temper problem, so unless you get that "mentally" under control, - i can't condone using any AAS until you are in the right frame of mind, - a frame of mind that will letyou "decide" what is best for you.

Only telling you this cause I don't like to see ANYONE in your situation.

Get help bro - please

 

[newbiebynature]

I just took about 12mg worth of Klonapin,and I also take valums xanax etc..I'll stop for weeks on in and never ever have problems

sorry for hijacking the thread but scout...since you have used both...which u think is a better drug...i have used xanax for a long time...how does klon compare to it? i dont know the "good feeling" dose for klonopin but how would a good feeling dose of klonopin compare to say 4 mg of xan?

 

[itlnstln]

sorry for hijacking the thread but scout...since you have used both...which u think is a better drug...i have used xanax for a long time...how does klon compare to it? i dont know the "good feeling" dose for klonopin but how would a good feeling dose of klonopin compare to say 4 mg of xan?

real nice of you...................

I thought we agreed to NOT cheapen these boards anymore.

you want to ask questions about rec. drugs - go sit on a street corner and wait your turn.

 

[gymratforlife]

Damn what has this board become lol,Im gone for a little while and when I come back its a mess.

 

[racoon_city]

he's only 20 and could careless what we say, i doubt the boy even works out let alone follow a commited training and diet regimen

 

[newbiebynature]

real nice of you...................

I thought we agreed to NOT cheapen these boards anymore.

you want to ask questions about rec. drugs - go sit on a street corner and wait your turn.

bro...quit acting like your fucking george spellwin aright...u dont make the rules here so just cut the shit...im not asking for a source or anything im asking for his opinion...did i say itlnstln can i have your opinion? no...i asked scout

 

[newbiebynature]

he's only 20 and could careless what we say, i doubt the boy even works out let alone follow a commited training and diet regimen

indy for mod mother fucker...hows that?

 

[racoon_city]

take the rec drug shit out of here, you wanna get wasted then go do it on your own...if you truly suffering anxiety and need us thats another thing

 

[newbiebynature]

take the rec drug shit out of here, you wanna get wasted then go do it on your own...if you truly suffering anxiety and need us thats another thing

i use it to go to sleep and to take the edge off occasionally...go ahead...RANT...u seem to always have something to say...

 

[racoon_city]

you dont use klon to sleep because of long half life, use xanex or ativan, better yet lunesta. klon is good if you like waking up like a zombie and be groggy all day

 

[newbiebynature]

you dont use klon to sleep because of long half life, use xanex or ativan, better yet lunesta. klon is good if you like waking up like a zombie and be groggy all day

thank you...that was the first knowledgable answer u have given me...ok well i use xanax for sleep and it works wonders...about the taking the edge off...which is better?

 

[itlnstln]

bro...quit acting like your fucking george spellwin aright...u dont make the rules here so just cut the shit...im not asking for a source or anything im asking for his opinion...did i say itlnstln can i have your opinion? no...i asked scout

<---- promised myself to not start shit with the "minority idiots" on this board.


I'm done

 

[racoon_city]

take klon early in the day .5 mg is good starting point. so .5mg 3x a day should let you cruise anxiety free all day and well into the night

 

[newbiebynature]

<---- promised myself to not start shit with the "minority idiots" on this board.


I'm done

thats real mature of you thanks...now if youd like...if u have used both of them you can give me your opinion on which is better...

 

[sweed]

Sorry I wasn;t aware I was on the Rec. Drug Forum, lol.

 

[gymratforlife]

Sorry I wasn;t aware I was on the Rec. Drug Forum, lol.

lol Sweed whatsup bro,long time no see.

 

[seizer]

You guy's should wire me some money so that way I can email you some free klonopin.

 

[NFG123]

does trazadone fall into the benzo category? b/c i am prescribed those for insomnia but i wonder if it will be hard to quit.

1. Heroin is NOT worse than BZ, quite the opposite. Heroin use is an independent risk factor for HIV, tuberuclosis, pulmonary emboli, etc. Also its a reason for societal poverty, BZ are not.

2. Trazadone is NOT a BZ, it is a heterocyclic antidepressant used for sleep or people with depressed mood and sleep difficulties. IT can be a first line sleep aid. It is not addictive, but may need to be titrated backwards to avoid rebound insomnia. Watch out for priapism (huge erection that doesnt end) as this is a medical emergency and may require surgery so your dick doesnt infarct (like your heart in a heart attack) and fall off, literally.

Also, rebound anxiety and withdrawl from BZ are not fun, but can be avoided if you titrate the dose backwards. The Sx are nearly identical to alcohol withdarwl, and like alcohol withdrawl, BZ Delerium Tremens can be FATAL if its untreated. The treatment is administration of more BZ, scheduled and titrating them down to 0.

1 mg klonopin qhs is not a huge dose of benzos, but any level can produce withdrawl. 3 weeks of sx seems a bit long, most are done within 1 week.

BZ are safe in overdose, but should not be used by people who concurrently use EtOH, have past problems with substance use. Klonopin is appropriate for short term sleep aid, but not appropriate for long term sleep.

You must look into other causes of sleep disturbances such as COPD, Heart Failure, Sleep Apnea, Myoclonus (nocturla), other substance use/withdrawl, 2/2 normal aging, restless leg syndrome, caffeine intake, changes in night time rituals, shift work or circadian rhythym sleep disturbance syndromes (shift worker/jet lag/delayed onset etc).

NFG

 

[NFG123]

take klon early in the day .5 mg is good starting point. so .5mg 3x a day should let you cruise anxiety free all day and well into the night

Klonopin 0.5 mg tid is useful for anxiety or GAD, but not 1st line. because of the issues mentioned, this should not be done.

Consider something nice like sertraline 25 mg po qam (start at low dose and titrate upwards to avoid anxiety provocation), paroxetine 10 mg po qam.

Other considerations are shot term use of BZ therapy with librium for 2 weeks before sertraline/paroxetine kicks in. But should be tapered off.

If you dnt like this, try buspirone up to 60 mg / day, in divided doses, is effective.

You can also use TCAs or other antidepressants for treatment.

BZ long term tid should be last line.

 

[cat_fish]

Damn what has this board become lol,Im gone for a little while and when I come back its a mess.

I didnt mean to cause a riot on this board I was hoping to help others so they dont expierence the hell Im currently going thru.

Anyway if your interested/concerned about ALL benzodiazepines and their effects click on this link. Ashton Manual

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

My girlfriend was on those and effoxor for almost 6 months, and I wouldnt recommend that nasty sh*t to anyone. Klonopin is way stronger than xanax. Xanax would only calm her down for a few hours. The klonopin lasted alot longer and she was using 2 per day. I didnt care for them, because it made herself just useless. She couldnt do anything, walked around like a zombie all day, wouldnt eat, was throwing up, couldnt work, and just couldnt do everyday normal activities. It was very frustrating for me, because I worried about her all day, and I wanted her to get better, but she wasnt. Finally, i went to go see her doctor with her, and we both told her what was going on, and we started to slowly take her off them. Towards the end when she was off them completely, I knew she was going to have withdrawls, and that was pretty bad too for almost a week. She is 110% better now since being off them for almost 6 months now. She is back in the gym and will be competeting sometime this year. I feel for the people that are using these, so very bad stuff in my opinion. Not something that anyone should be messing around with. Especially without a doctors authorization..

 

[surferstar]

Lol I take Kpins zanyz sticks and ambien for a long time never had any kind of addictions or sides or anything bad, guess im just lucky and good thing i don't have an addictive personality. Just bud. lol

 

[cat_fish]

Lol I take Kpins zanyz sticks and ambien for a long time never had any kind of addictions or sides or anything bad, guess im just lucky and good thing i don't have an addictive personality. Just bud. lol

Your one of the lucky ones, Im in my 40's maybe thats why Im having such a hard time getting off them but then again I just talked to a couple of people in their mid 30's that cant hold down a job because of their w/d's from both klonopin and ativan. Guess it just depends on the person.