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Killer 1st Cycle Please Evaluate

JoNeS

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Ok first my backround. 21 years old 190lbs 6 feet tall 10% bf. 6 years training on/off But, this past year training and eating solid and consistantly. I know how to train I know how/what/when to eat. This is what I would like to do for my first cycle, please evaluate.

Sust - 250mg every 5 days for weeks 1-10
EQ - 150-200mg every 5 days for weeks 1-10

Week 12
Clomid - 100 mg each day for days 1-5
50 mg each day for days 6-10

Looking to gain and retain 15lbs of lean muscle. One of my primary concerns is having no Long Term side effects. Will this cycle have any? thanks

What do you think?
 
I wouldn't call it a "killer first cycle". Why not just copy one of the umpteen other first cycles on here. I don't think that amount of EQ will serve any purpose.
Not answering the cost question of purpose.
 
I would suggest dropping the EQ and doing 500mg of test a week with dbol 30 mg a day week 1 to 5. The same PCT.
 
The EQ dose is alittle on the low side, even for a first cycle.

How much will it cost? How much are you paying for your EQ and Test?
 
I would increase the EQ dose to 200mg twice per week, but otherwise it looks good. If you can get your hands on some dbol, it would be a great way to jump start this cycle.
 
price is dependent on where u live and the chance of the gear being real and such.

if u are concerned about prices then perhaps do a search on google for prices where u live
 
PJ, I think you noticed guys are purposely sidestepping or flat out not answering any questions dealing with prices. I "think" it goes against the rules of the board. Check with a Mod to make sure. Besides that, you can use Sust alone just like you have it and see pretty good results.
 
parkerjones said:
please evaluate.

Sust - 250mg every 5 days for weeks 1-10
EQ - 150-200mg every 5 days for weeks 1-10

Let's do a little switch-aroo:

Sust - 500mg e5d weeks 1-10 (weeks 1 + 2 frontload at 1000mg)
EQ - 400mg e5d weeks 1-10 (weeks 1 + 2 frontload at 800mg)

That will make better use of your EQ, and the sust will be more evident with proper frontloading.

-M
 
parkerjones said:
Ok first my backround. 21 years old 190lbs 6 feet tall 10% bf. 6 years training on/off But, this past year training and eating solid and consistantly. I know how to train I know how/what/when to eat. This is what I would like to do for my first cycle, please evaluate.

Sust - 250mg every 5 days for weeks 1-10
EQ - 150-200mg every 5 days for weeks 1-10

Week 12
Clomid - 100 mg each day for days 1-5
50 mg each day for days 6-10

Looking to gain and retain 15lbs of lean muscle. One of my primary concerns is having no Long Term side effects. Will this cycle have any? thanks

What do you think?

I like it. A sensible first cycle. You will have plenty of time in the future to see if you need and want to use more to gain well. Remember to eat, train, and rest well also.

BTW - The eq you could just keep it at 200mg every 5 days and that's fine for now.
 
I think doing 500mg/wk or less of anything for a first time should be a good start. And I like the idea of going with a moderate amount of test mixed with something like EQ , Primo or Deca.

I here to many people complain about how much water retention they had , their nips getting sore, hair shedding , and acne from using test.

By doing moderate doses, you can always up the dose the next if the side effects are too bad. And yes, there will be a next time.

I have no doubts that if you did 500mg of test, you will probably grow better than if you did 250 of test and 250 of eq. But I can also guarantee that the chances of having sides will reduced.
 
EQ won't do much at that dosage. Why are you doing it every 5 days.

As for price, probably about a grand. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Re: Killer 1st Cycle Please Evaluate

Mike P.T. said:


I like it. A sensible first cycle. You will have plenty of time in the future to see if you need and want to use more to gain well. Remember to eat, train, and rest well also.

BTW - The eq you could just keep it at 200mg every 5 days and that's fine for now.

I agree 100% with this. I'm also very happy to see a first cycle that we actually have to increase the doseages on. This is a very sensible first cycle. Youl could even get incredible gains on just the 250mg of sus e5d. Trust me it was my first cycle.
 
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