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Kickstart primo cycle with tren.

Blaster22

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My next cycle gonna be a 16 wk primo/test with 8 week var finisher.

Want to get opinions on starting it with a 50 mg/day of tren ace, perhaps with low dose mast prop. Want a good kickstart here. Thanks.
 
we need your stats, age, and cycle history before commenting on a 19 nor....
Thanks Bro
Johnny D
if im correct blaster has plenty of experience...

i think its a great idea, 6-8 weeks tren ace 50mg ed and ride the primo and var out on the
backside, doesn't get any better than that....a little mast prop with the tren wouldn't hurt,
no need to go to high with the mast dose since primo is also a dht, maybe 50mg/ed along with the tren but you could definitly get by without it just have some caber or prami.....
 
I've posted before but no biggie.

Stats.

37
5'7
175
12-13% bf

Have done an 8 week tren/prop/test cycle before. Loved it but tore ligament in ankle in week 8 so was out of it for 2 months healing.

Will be using test e.

How much mast should I run on the kickstart? Or should I not bother. I just want a 4-6 week start before the test kick in then slowly build with the primo. Trying to put on 10lbs muscle and lose 2-3% bf so diet will b slightly below needed with a focus on protien. If I do tren I will add extra carbs for that part.
 
I do have caber on hand and have to check on prami. It's been awhile since I used them. What would be better? What doses?
 
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 mast e 500 mg week
1-8 tren ace 75 mg eod
1-16 primo 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-8 caber .5 mg e3d
9-16 hcg 500 iu's week or hcgenerate
11-16 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg
11-16 proviron 75 mg day
11-16 n2guard

pct

17-20 clomid 25/25/25/25
17-20 unleashed/post cycle combo
17-20 forma stanzol
17-20 daa powerchews or powder
 
i would consider swapping out tren for dbol as a kickstart and/or swapping out mast for proviron to finish things off.
unless you love injections.. i promise with primo you will get sick of them very quick .. primo is like injecting motor oil, its got a ridiculous molecular weight and you will have to use a 22 or 23G needle. not fun at all.
 
Dylan, thanks for that layout. Love it. Just out of curiousity, why do you have me stop the test at week 12? I would figure with the suppression I get from primo I would need to run it straight through. Also, I have var on hand right now. Is there any added advantage if I run it at 100mg/day as opposed to 60/80?
 
Steve, for some reason last run with primo was great. Running ethanate so maybe that was difference and never really felt pain from injection. Of course gonna b running n2gaurd, n2slin whole way through along with gear. Was thing of using forma stanazol starting week 1. Is that overkill?
 
Dylan, thanks for that layout. Love it. Just out of curiousity, why do you have me stop the test at week 12? I would figure with the suppression I get from primo I would need to run it straight through. Also, I have var on hand right now. Is there any added advantage if I run it at 100mg/day as opposed to 60/80?


that's why you are running hcg or hcgenerate in the cycle... you could run test to week 14... i wouldn't go any longer than that... there is no need to exceed 80 mg of anavar... don't get the mindset that more is better because that's not the case...
 
Steve, for some reason last run with primo was great. Running ethanate so maybe that was difference and never really felt pain from injection. Of course gonna b running n2gaurd, n2slin whole way through along with gear. Was thing of using forma stanazol starting week 1. Is that overkill?

some people aren't sensitive at all to the primo. if you aren't then that is great.

i would run the forma at a low dose and use accordingly.

and to answer your question above this cycle is gonna suppress you whether you run test all the way or not. that is a huge myth that test doesn't suppress. you do however should stack primo with something that is a non DHT to give it a kick although it isn't mandatory, its a good idea.
 
some people aren't sensitive at all to the primo. if you aren't then that is great.

i would run the forma at a low dose and use accordingly.

and to answer your question above this cycle is gonna suppress you whether you run test all the way or not. that is a huge myth that test doesn't suppress. you do however should stack primo with something that is a non DHT to give it a kick although it isn't mandatory, its a good idea.



So instead of mast run an oral like Beast at start? I know all these dht compound lead to hair loss but thankfully I'm not prone to that right now.
 
care to elaborate? tren is toxic wether you run it at the end of a cycle or at the beginning...
i haven't been around much lately but it seem like everytime i sign you're giving some bad advice lol

Lmao! Do we always think alike??


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care to elaborate? tren is toxic wether you run it at the end of a cycle or at the beginning...
i haven't been around much lately but it seem like everytime i sign you're giving some bad advice lol

X2. I'm not the most experienced, that's why I ask question but I've seen stuff that seems very bad advice from that poster.
 
X2. I'm not the most experienced, that's why I ask question but I've seen stuff that seems very bad advice from that poster.

thats because its just shamelss advertising, all his posts are like 3 or 4 words and are of no real help to anyone just to flood the threads with their banner...at least the other reps here contribute to the board lol
 
If using tren ace as a kick start... has anyone seen that it kicks quicker with ed pins instead of eod? For example at 7 days instead of 10.
 
thats because its just shamelss advertising, all his posts are like 3 or 4 words and are of no real help to anyone just to flood the threads with their banner...at least the other reps here contribute to the board lol


its true and everyone is seeing it and its just fucking pissing everyone off... how could you not see that? its fucking embarassing and it needs to stop now...
 
If using tren ace as a kick start... has anyone seen that it kicks quicker with ed pins instead of eod? For example at 7 days instead of 10.

i've only ran it once and i pinned ed and noticed a strength increase within days, physically i responded great to tren, mentally? well not so good lol :evil:, my second run starts monday lmao :qt:
 
i've only ran it once and i pinned ed and noticed a strength increase within days, physically i responded great to tren, mentally? well not so good lol :evil:, my second run starts monday lmao :qt:

My run with tren was EOD. Only sides were very vivid dreams at night. Strength went up almost instantly. It was like someone touched me and said you r now 20% stronger. I plan on doing 50mg/Ed this time. I did a prop cycle Ed and felt better overall.
 
My run with tren was EOD. Only sides were very vivid dreams at night. Strength went up almost instantly. It was like someone touched me and said you r now 20% stronger. I plan on doing 50mg/Ed this time. I did a prop cycle Ed and felt better overall.
i was going through a lot of shit then though too so the tren just made it that much worse, I was fine up until my best friend fucked my girl and my car got stolen in the same night lmao, wtf...maybe it wasn't the tren :rolleyes:
 
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 mast e 500 mg week
1-8 tren ace 75 mg eod
1-16 primo 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-8 caber .5 mg e3d
9-16 hcg 500 iu's week or hcgenerate
11-16 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg
11-16 proviron 75 mg day
11-16 n2guard

pct

17-20 clomid 25/25/25/25
17-20 unleashed/post cycle combo
17-20 forma stanzol
17-20 daa powerchews or powder

Bingo ! :artist:
 
My run with tren was EOD. Only sides were very vivid dreams at night. Strength went up almost instantly. It was like someone touched me and said you r now 20% stronger. I plan on doing 50mg/Ed this time. I did a prop cycle Ed and felt better overall.

where did they touch you bro... ? Do you feel violated :(

PM me if you need somebody to talk to .:rose:




















































j/k....;)
 
Dylan my g2g ( go to goomba) that cycle lay out is beautiful! I just wanted to say I'm stealing that cycle this summer, Blaster. I hope you don't mind. Good luck bro that sounds awesome!
 
Dylan my g2g ( go to goomba) that cycle lay out is beautiful! I just wanted to say I'm stealing that cycle this summer, Blaster. I hope you don't mind. Good luck bro that sounds awesome!

I love this layout for a cycle. Answered all my questions. I'm glad for the mods here that help us all out. Steve,Dylan, everyone of them here help. Hope this cycle goes great for you also. Only problem I have is how $$$ it is. But worth it in the end. Thanks agin Dylan for the layout.
 
I love this layout for a cycle. Answered all my questions. I'm glad for the mods here that help us all out. Steve,Dylan, everyone of them here help. Hope this cycle goes great for you also. Only problem I have is how $$$ it is. But worth it in the end. Thanks agin Dylan for the layout.

Anytime bro


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Good thread...Im an HRT guy and have done a handful of blasts over the last 3 years. Since Im never looking for size nor to make it obvious Im blasting and cruising, I keep sticking with Primo and Mast at moderate doses, and this last 10 week blast has been awesome with just 400mg Primo +400mg Mast weekly and 50mg Var daily (kept my TRT dose same as normal). I did do a 5 week middle blast 75mg EOD Tren and it was literally like the guy said strength went up insanely within a week...just couldnt sleep well at all, tossing and turning and sweat my nuts off had to change shirts 3x a training session!

Dylan's cycle layout looks pretty sweet...yea that might make me morph into a new body for sure hah....might cost the same as a used car and Id need what like 6 pins a week to stuff all that stuff in me.

I really would like to try 600mg Primo for 8-10 weeks (longer would be nice but the price of that stuff is steep) with 400mg Mast and 400mg Test. Using dbol as a kickstart sounds interesting because yea adding Tren would be more injections on top of the Primo and Mast. Or running Var again but $$$....or as some on here have told me Halo would be a nice oral since I do MMA and lots of power training so the CNS aspect would be sweet. Maybe Primo+Mast+Test+Halo :-) Ill wait until next summer to maybe mess with Tren again, but for me at least I barely needed any of that in my system and it worked like a charm.
 
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