Kick start

[jayson311]

Is is worth it to kick start you cycle with d-bol? If running test-e @ 500 a week and deca @ 300 a week for 8 to 10 weeks. Should you kick start with d-bol and if so how much? Stats 175, 6 ft, first cycle.

 

[bigmouth2006]

yeah its is always worth it but look out for stretch marks but your first cycle its not nessary

 

[jambookie]

if it's your first cycle you should run test a 500mg a week. if you run test deca and dbol and you start getting side effects you won't know which one is causing it. 500mgs of test is a good first cycle. get your pct in order first.

week 1-12 500mg test
week 1-16 .5 adex ed
week 14-16 hcg 1000iu eod
week 14 100mg clomid ed
week 15 50 mg clomid ed
week 14 40 mg nolva ed
week 15-20 20 mg nolva ed

nolva on hand for gyno. you can run the adex and clomid an extra week if you want, but that would be a solid cycle and pct.

j

 

[toxicsambo]

Is is worth it to kick start you cycle with d-bol? If running test-e @ 500 a week and deca @ 300 a week for 8 to 10 weeks. Should you kick start with d-bol and if so how much? Stats 175, 6 ft, first cycle.

kickstarting a cycle is relative to the user and the kind of results they're looking for. You dont need it. Dbol is no joke if you dont realize how strong it is. My first cycle was only 250mg of Sustanon, or 1 amp per week for 10 weeks, and I gained 18lbs solid after all was said and done. The patience paid off. I probably looked the best I ever did after that cycle.

If you do use dbol, go with 35-50mgs ed for 4 weeks. imo

 

[bigmouth2006]

if it's your first cycle you should run test a 500mg a week. if you run test deca and dbol and you start getting side effects you won't know which one is causing it. 500mgs of test is a good first cycle. get your pct in order first.

week 1-12 500mg test
week 1-16 .5 adex ed
week 14-16 hcg 1000iu eod
week 14 100mg clomid ed
week 15 50 mg clomid ed
week 14 40 mg nolva ed
week 15-20 20 mg nolva ed

nolva on hand for gyno. you can run the adex and clomid an extra week if you want, but that would be a solid cycle and pct.

j

you can do this but i doesn't matter what kind of steroid you do you going to get some kind of side

 

[Bruce]

kickstart it with tbol. i guarantee you are not disapointed

 

[nomad05]

what bruce said

 

[Bruce]

oh i should have elaborated. run it at 50mg ed for weeks 1-4. run the test longer than the deca and you will have an easier time recovering. however, please note that i reccomend you do not take deca and test for your first cycle. run test at 500mg ew for 10-12 weeks, 12 being the ideal time, and kickstart with tbol. some of the best looking guys out there run a mere 250mg-500mg of test only for their cycles. see how your body reacts to one compound save the deca for second run. the kickstart is fine though. tbol and test e a great cycle bro, kill it
tbol 50mg ed 1-4
test e 500mg ew 1-10 or 1-12
adex .5mg ed to keep off bloat and prevent gyno
pct hcg nolva and clomid

 

[jambookie]

i was just saying if he runs one compound and gets harsh sides he will know what it is from. if he ran three he wouldn't know. say he runs test at 500 a week and gets some bloat but thats it. then he does test at 500 and deca at 400 for the next cycle and he gets harsh acne. it would be a good asumption that it was the deca. thats all i was trying to say,

 

[jayson311]

oh i should have elaborated. run it at 50mg ed for weeks 1-4. run the test longer than the deca and you will have an easier time recovering. however, please note that i reccomend you do not take deca and test for your first cycle. run test at 500mg ew for 10-12 weeks, 12 being the ideal time, and kickstart with tbol. some of the best looking guys out there run a mere 250mg-500mg of test only for their cycles. see how your body reacts to one compound save the deca for second run. the kickstart is fine though. tbol and test e a great cycle bro, kill it
tbol 50mg ed 1-4
test e 500mg ew 1-10 or 1-12
adex .5mg ed to keep off bloat and prevent gyno
pct hcg nolva and clomid

Do you suggest not running the deca just simply because of the sides and not really knowing where its coming from? The goal is to get big,but at the same time be safe with little sides. Don't wanna waste first cycle.

 

[JohnnyWest]

Do you suggest not running the deca just simply because of the sides and not really knowing where its coming from? The goal is to get big,but at the same time be safe with little sides. Don't wanna waste first cycle.

Don't worry you won't waste it with test @ 500mg/w and a kickstart, that's plenty of gear.

 

[Bruce]

yes partly because deca can cause gyno so if you get gyno you won't know if its from the test or deca. also you dont need that much to grow. its a waste of gear you will make huge gains with test e.

 

[jayson311]

Truely appericated.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

Truely appericated.

d-bol i would run only 20mg a day. and as far as test 200 a week ad deca nan. 200 a week that is plenty 500 a week test to much for first cycle and have armidex on hand 2-times a week 0.5mg.

 

[njmuscleguy]

oh i should have elaborated. run it at 50mg ed for weeks 1-4. run the test longer than the deca and you will have an easier time recovering. however, please note that i reccomend you do not take deca and test for your first cycle. run test at 500mg ew for 10-12 weeks, 12 being the ideal time, and kickstart with tbol. some of the best looking guys out there run a mere 250mg-500mg of test only for their cycles. see how your body reacts to one compound save the deca for second run. the kickstart is fine though. tbol and test e a great cycle bro, kill it
tbol 50mg ed 1-4
test e 500mg ew 1-10 or 1-12
adex .5mg ed to keep off bloat and prevent gyno
pct hcg nolva and clomid

solid!