Ketotifen

[SlimJim300]

Has anyone used Ketotifen? I think it is supposed to upregulate beta-2 receptors, which would be beneficial during a clenbuterol cycle. If anyone has experience using this, or information on it's dangers or anyting else, would you share? It seems like people would use this more often, so I am thinking there must be some reason they do not...

 

[boogersnax]

Has anyone used Ketotifen? I think it is supposed to upregulate beta-2 receptors, which would be beneficial during a clenbuterol cycle. If anyone has experience using this, or information on it's dangers or anyting else, would you share? It seems like people would use this more often, so I am thinking there must be some reason they do not...

I've tried it in combination with clen. It flats puts me out on my ass. I can't handle it.

PEACE

 

[Slyder190]

I've tried it in combination with clen. It flats puts me out on my ass. I can't handle it.

PEACE

How so? makes you tired?

 

[concordsize]

I used it and loved it. I believe i used 1mg for every 100mcgs of clen.

E

 

[mass_builder]

Ketotifen is useless IMO it did nothing extra to my clen

 

[Jenetic]

Has anyone used Ketotifen? I think it is supposed to upregulate beta-2 receptors, which would be beneficial during a clenbuterol cycle. If anyone has experience using this, or information on it's dangers or anyting else, would you share? It seems like people would use this more often, so I am thinking there must be some reason they do not...

Ketotifen does in fact increase beta adrenoceptor responsiveness. It's really nothing new and has been around for quite some time. The primary reasons more people do not use it is due to drowsiness, lethargy and poor availability. Also, it can severely increase clenbuterol's effectiveness to the point where it's untolerable. This is usually the result of an improper dosage as well as not using the necessary supplements to counteract these effects. Taurine is imperative when using ketotifen in combination with clenbuterol. Otherwsie, severe cramping is guaranteed.

I have never had a problem with Ketotifen. The key is to start with 1 mg ED and gradually increase your dosage as necessary. The drowsiness and lethargy associated with this dosage is minimal and usually subsides after 1 weeek. I can tell you from experience that 1-3 mg ED is plenty. Clenbuterol definitely becomes more effective in combination with ketotifen. Therefore, you may need to decrease your clenbuterol dosage accordingly to find an optimal effective range while minimizing side effects.

For those that are not interested using ketotifen during your cycles, another option is to use it between cycles. In particular, the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off clenbuterol cycling. Use ketotifen during the 2 weeks off to restore beta adrenoreceptor responsiveness and keep your clenbuterol working at full throttle.

Jenetic

 

[Slyder190]

Nice response Jenetic.

 

[SlimJim300]

A couple more side effects of ketotifen are weight gain and increased appetite. Is the weight gain due to the increased appetite, or something else? Ketotifen lowers TNF-alpha. Would that make it anti-catabolic, but slowing fat loss? I can't find any study that shows whether the weight gained was all around or specific to muscle or fat. If anyone knows anything abou TNF-alpha that would help. I think I heard about Dan Duchaine using this drug for the appetite stimulation during mass gain, but I am unsure. Could it serve this dual purpose effectively?

 

[Razorguns]

I agree. What's the purpsoe of Ketotifen if it's just gonna make you more hungry and eat MORE! Negating the effects of clen and a good diet.

get clen W/O ketotifen imho.

 

[SlimJim300]

Maybe using it in the off weeks would be best, along with an appetite suppressant like thermorexin.