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Kerry...traitor or just a POS?

timwillt73 said:
Kerry is definitely a piece of shit traitor.

I guess all of the self righteous right wingers like to show up real late at night.
Wonder why?
 
chesty said:
Yeah, some unjust war huh? We were attacked, we had intelligence at the time that the president acted on and wow, some of us have been killed and wounded, guess we should have just waited untile he got the sanctions lifted, reconstitued his arsenal, then invaded another country or openly attacked us or England or whatever.
"intelligence" isnt the word i would use to describe something that led you to go to war with iraq, a country already on its knees due to sanctions that you already in essence controlled, after an attack from a rogue extremist organisation originating in afghanistan... :rolleyes:
 
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.



There are 5 classes of Discharge:

Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.

My guess is that he was discharged in the '70s, but not honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.



http://www.kgoam810.com/viewentry.asp?ID=316611&PT=PERSONALITIES
 
"His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire. This will blow up in his face before October 15th.



· On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6-year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).



· On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years - 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & 5).



Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Cod! e of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war.



It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972. Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."



· On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.



Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per yea r training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?



· On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -

Inactive.



· On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.



Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:



1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt . Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.



Lt. Kerry by his own words &actions violated the UCMJ and the US Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the US Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ’s Article 104 part 904, and US Code 18 U. S. C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.



The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-president, having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."



A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL

Director, AuthentiSEAL

"The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs"

http://www.authentiseal.org/"
 
Wonder where our liberal friends are on Sunday morning? I wonder?

Couldn't have said it better.

Like I said, having this person as commander in chief is like having another hole in your head. Not needed.

At least I can recognize when the devil is speaking. Many can't, like those that voted for clinton after seeing how he lies under oath, has sex in a place of employment with an employee, gore whines like a little baby, kerry betrays his country and his fellow vets.

Bush partied while he was in college, had a little coke, some booze, got busted and has not repeated his mistakes. Can kerry claim that he has cleaned up his act?
 
chesty said:
Bush partied while he was in college, had a little coke, some booze, got busted and has not repeated his mistakes. Can kerry claim that he has cleaned up his act?
and probably smart enough to know that if you toke on some weed you inhale
what's the frickin' point otherwise?
I can only imagine sittin' around at the frat party trying to be cool and hittin a bong without inhaling
foolin' noone
wouldv'e been laughed out of the room like a dweeb
Bush would have been like Taylor in "platoon",invited into the party bunker to throw down
while Kerry would be off by himself reenacting his "heroics" on film for his own personal admiration later
if Kerry hadn't have bugged out after 4 months he probably would have ended up being shootedeted by his own team,if he hadn't managed to do so himself by then,having come close twice already
 
Where is the obligatory Kerry will Start WWIII Post?

LMAO

Bush and Cheney have no credibility.
 
Make no mistake, if Kerry is elected then America will start WW3. And start a new tradition of eating babies.

THINK OF THE BABIES!

Happy?
 
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chesty said:
Except for the fact that he called all of the vietnam vets murders that went there to commit atrocities, was used by the communists to denounce and injure the men and women fighting in vietnam, through the medals he supposedly earned back at his country in contempt.

Your ignorant...he never put it like that. The bottom lime is you'd rather believe the political group Swift Boats Veterans than official Navy records.

Yeah, some unjust war huh? We were attacked, we had intelligence at the time that the president acted on and wow, some of us have been killed and wounded, guess we should have just waited untile he got the sanctions lifted, reconstitued his arsenal, then invaded another country or openly attacked us or England or whatever.

In case you haven't been paying attention, and it looks like you haven't...the US Gov't (yes OUR gov't) just released a report saying Saddam didn't have jack shit since 91' and that sanctions were apparently working. You fucking can sugracoat things all you want...but the bottom line is that we attacked a country that was not a threat to us based on bogus intel. Why don't you ask the President what were doing about the terror cells in Saudia Arabia??????????????

What should we do about North Korea? Iran? Suppose we ought to just let them continue to build their nuclear weapons so they can shoot them at us. Then you all can say gee? Why didn't you do something about that?
What about them...???? under Bush's logic we'll be invading them soon too. It'll be cool...the whole Middle East a major conflag....

As for Kerry, vote for him, when your taxes increase, when your cost of living goes through the roof and when he has finally decimated what little remains of our armed forces, be proud that you helped in that.

cost of living is going through the roof.....Did you ever hear of the term "Gasoline" or "Home heating Oil" ????

As for Bush, I would rather have a president that is a human who makes mistakes and admits it than someone who lies about lies.
Funny...Bush couldn't admit even one mistake when asked during the last debate

He never went awol. He received an honorable discharge, was on acive duty for two years of his gaurd time, flew the jet he was trained to fly, etc. Not his fault his gaurd unit was not activated.
Kerry put his ass on the line..Bush didn't. How much more does it need to be spelled out for you....


Kerry doesn't care about you or I. All he cares about is himself. He wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, unless he stood to make money off of it or it would boost his ego and increase his popularity.
yuor right...Bush hates big buisness and is for the working man....

You all just don't get it. Going to war is never popular, it wasn't in WWI or WWII or Korea or Vietnam, but we did go and the times we let other countries and politics dictate how we conducted ourselves we got our asses kicked. When we controlled our military and our objectives were ours, we kicked ass.
as opposed to now where the objectives aren't clear and IRAQ is in Chaos...
 
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