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Keeping your gains
- Thread starter azul
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Depends on the person I suppose as well. Some people dont have a problem keeping gains after but then again some people loose alot more, You still need to eat very clean or even cleaner when you have finished, go back if you havent already to training as you did clean, do not try and lift like you are still on. Keep protein high, it also depends on what you are taking dont expect to put on a lot of water weight and then expect the scales not to go several pounds lighter afterwards...
What are people's opinions on improving recovery using supplements? What about tribulus terrestris to improve testosterone production? Or an ECA stack to burn some fat? Maybe some clenbuterol? Yohimbine might be useful after a cycle (but how about during a cycle), too. Just trying to encourage some healthy discussion here (and keep on learning of course) 
azul said:What are people's opinions on improving recovery using supplements? What about tribulus terrestris to improve testosterone production? Or an ECA stack to burn some fat? Maybe some clenbuterol? Yohimbine might be useful after a cycle (but how about during a cycle), too. Just trying to encourage some healthy discussion here (and keep on learning of course)
Somebody on the board once mentioned using BSN Betalin 7EC...in fact, I think he said it made him feel like he was still on. I haven't ever used it, but it sounds promising. What about a 6 OXO product for increasing testosterone/reducing estrogen?
smaretick said:
I dunno about 6-OXO. I didn't get jack all out of it. And some of the chem gurus at t-nation say it's worthless. If you do your research, you'll find that there's even studies proving it's a joke, though there's also studies showing it works. Who to trust is the question.
ass_face
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You will not keep all of your gains... Those that say they can are lying. If this was the case everyone would be 390 by now. The best way to minimize loss is proper PCT and a solid diet. It is easy to get lazy and screw up the diet. Also, do not lift extremely hard after a cycle. Post Cycle is not a time to shoot for super grueling training sessions and personal best record lifts. You want to be consistent and not over train. You can't keep the same pace and set volume that you may have had during a cycle.
Everything is incremental. Once I was natural 190 pounds off gear. Now I am a natural 220-225 off gear. The key is to always try to make a little improvement each cycle and add lean mass.
Everything is incremental. Once I was natural 190 pounds off gear. Now I am a natural 220-225 off gear. The key is to always try to make a little improvement each cycle and add lean mass.
anthony518
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whats up with that?
TJ4
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Yeah bro, I usually keep at least two-third's of my gains. The key again is a solid post cycle and diet, diet, diet and remember to keep calories high as well as protein during post cycle. I also found that for me I keep more by reducing my sets by 50% and intensity by 60%. It just allows me to still get in the gym with some motivation. in other words I worked my ass off for 3 months so now I just relax for a few weeks and let my body regulate and then start to hit it hard after post cycle. I can't speak for anyone else but that's a little bit of how I keep my gains.
small but working on it
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ceo said:
Bigdogmikey
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keep your calories and training the same, dont stop working out like most people and also dont go into a cutting cycle right afterwards
slat1
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I keep my diet the same when on and off. I always use Clomid and HCG too. I also rarely go over a gram of AAS. I like to make small, yet steady gains instead of big swings. I generally lose 3 to 4 lbs from what I believe to be water loss. I also force myself to go to the gym when off when I am tired. I believe that with constantly changing my routine helps me keep most of what I gain!
jonnyblade
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Whats everones opinion on HCG, how much how often do you take it? Is it the best bang for your buck or is there something better to take to come off juice?
mrplunkey
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I normally do fairly long test esters (i.e. Cyponate or blends that have a reasonable amount of cyponate in them) so my first HCG shot is 1,000 IU's exactly 10 days after my last test injection. I then do 1,000 IU's/day of HGH for 10 days.jonnyblade said:
Having said that, I do light cycles (never over a gram, or even close to it).
mrplunkey
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I've often wonderd this... androgen receptors up-regulate, not down-regulate. Let's say you make some mistakes during PCT (overtrain or cut calories or lose intensity in the gym... whatever). Aren't those receptors still there and ready to grow you again once the smoke clears?
For example, let's say you go from 220 to 240, but 8 lbs of it is water. You drop to 232 fast after PCT, but overtraining & bad diet drop you further to 225. Aren't those receptors there and ready to help you get back to 232, regardless of whether it's with your own natty test or during your next cycle?
For example, let's say you go from 220 to 240, but 8 lbs of it is water. You drop to 232 fast after PCT, but overtraining & bad diet drop you further to 225. Aren't those receptors there and ready to help you get back to 232, regardless of whether it's with your own natty test or during your next cycle?
toxicsambo
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mrplunkey said:
I believe you are correct, and I totally agree. Unless someone has completely abstained from training for a number of years, I don't see how someone can't regain that size after a cycle natty or on the next cycle. That's why I believe in moderate dose cycles also. It's maintainable and you build off of that on the next cycle. It's like building a house.
