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I am trying to figure out what the best cycle would be for putting on some mass while losing a few percent of bodyfat.
If you could only use 2 steroids for this cycle, what would they be?

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my next one will be test & tren (and some t-bol for good measure!)
 
silverbackn said:
I would run test and tren. You could run l-dex at .5mg ed to keep the water off.


I was gonna say the same thing...I'd probably run tren enanthate and test enanthate if it were me...
 
Test+Dbol, then drop the Dbol and subsitute it with Anavar.
Anavar is an appetite suppressor, a cutter and a builder if taken above 70mg a day....Bump for Indy and Satch.
 
Test and var.....run the var at 60mg 2 weeks longer than the test if you are using a long ester like Test E,Test C or a blend with a long ester like sust.
 
Run anything really. Steroids wont burn fat off, it will increase mass without increasing BF which in return makes BF go down. Tren is good for cutting because it will allow you to cut in about 10 weeks and salavge all your muscle, it wont actually cut for you.
 
A 30mg Dbol only cycle with maximum cardio and fat burning (high reps low weights), high water consumption, and minimal eating (lots of cottage cheese).
 
Nobody seems to believe in IGF-1? You want to talk about something being "the shit"? You will gain 1-2 lbs lean body muscle per week, You will see an increase in your vascularity, You will lose fat while gaining muscle, It is currently legal to use, and easy to get (shameless plug coming)at GETIGF.com. Test and Tren is hard to beat, but don't overlook the no side effects quality mass gained with IGf-1!
 
Test and deca (with arimidex) is a real winner, a basic bread-and-butter bulking cycle that should work for most folks, and that you can also stay lean on (courtesy of arimidex). But I think test and tren would be a great cycle too (haven't tried that, but I hear lots of you rave about that stack, so I will try it soon).
 
Kachunga said:
Nobody seems to believe in IGF-1? You want to talk about something being "the shit"? You will gain 1-2 lbs lean body muscle per week, You will see an increase in your vascularity, You will lose fat while gaining muscle, It is currently legal to use, and easy to get (shameless plug coming)at GETIGF.com. Test and Tren is hard to beat, but don't overlook the no side effects quality mass gained with IGf-1!

I would have to go with Somatropin hGH (although it is not anabolic) but it will make more muscle fibers and mobilized fat very well. IGF-1 does have side effects though and it results are not typical. IGF-1 can cause the organ walls in your body to thicken (dangerous if it happens to your heart), thats why a lot of people get CAT scans after an IGF-1 cycle, it can also cause hypoglycemia in some people. The gains are not typical, in a log i've read a guy ran a clean IGF-1 cycle and it basically did nothing for him (other logs said the same) although I like its muscle sparing properties (good for PCT). I've also read that it works only in older men such as in their 30's. I honestly like IBE's Hexatropin and Oratropin oral IGF-1 and designer GH. Its not bad on cost and they are both legal.
 
hgh 5000 iu's per day - 5 days on 2 days off for 15 weeks.


woot! Woot!


or


anavar 75mg per day 5 days on 2 days off for 15 weeks.
 
I was thinking that I am going to run EQ, DECA and a low dose of test for 8-10 weeks.
The goal is to put on some high quality muscle while limiting the amount of fat put on and possibly losing some fat through the extra calories burned from a higher metabolism.
Thanks to everyone that posted.
 
hankes64 said:
I would have to go with Somatropin hGH (although it is not anabolic) but it will make more muscle fibers and mobilized fat very well. IGF-1 does have side effects though and it results are not typical. IGF-1 can cause the organ walls in your body to thicken (dangerous if it happens to your heart), thats why a lot of people get CAT scans after an IGF-1 cycle, it can also cause hypoglycemia in some people. The gains are not typical, in a log i've read a guy ran a clean IGF-1 cycle and it basically did nothing for him (other logs said the same) although I like its muscle sparing properties (good for PCT). I've also read that it works only in older men such as in their 30's. I honestly like IBE's Hexatropin and Oratropin oral IGF-1 and designer GH. Its not bad on cost and they are both legal.
Hey bro,
I'm not here to try to sell anyone on this stuff. The research I have done doesn't completely back up your points. First off you advocate growth hormone, but we all know the pro's and con's of this. Acromegaly, joint pain, growth gut are possible sides with users. But IT DOES WORK. IGF can cause smooth muscle growth internally, thats why we cycle it for only 4-6 weeks on then 4-6 weeks off. Also growth requires the user to take insulin. If someone doesn't know what they are doing with that they can DIE! Not gonna happen with IGF-1. Hypoglycemia is so rare in IGF users it's hardly worth mentioning. Everyone I know who has used/is using IGF-1 has /is reporting gains of 1-5 lean lbs. per week. Including myself. ILOVEMYWIFE asked what would help him gain mass while losing fat. It was just my humble opinion.
Respect,
Kachunga
 
Twinkle Toes said:
A 30mg Dbol only cycle with maximum cardio and fat burning (high reps low weights), high water consumption, and minimal eating (lots of cottage cheese).

Huh? High reps? What decade are you living in? High reps is a myth. It does nothing to burn fat and will actually cause your muscles to shrink because you're not stresses them enough to preserve them.
 
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