Just watched Pumping Iron ,just have a quick question

[CytoMel]

His form was horrible. He didn;t even performed full ROM. Not only speed but he was all over the place with the weights.

Drugs are the reason that he got so big.

Bullshit it was the drugs that got Louie so big.A lot of people are jealous of the top people and they make up excuses like drugs and such to make them feel better and less guilty about not accomplishing what they want to be. Louie was big from his early pictures beofre he was taking drugs. his form wasnt horrible.

I think that you might be the kind of person who does those Muscle and Fitness 3 sets of 10 routines for years and wonders why he never grows..by the way i have a 400plus bench press and I train with fast reps..Try this, find the strongest people around and watch how they train. They all train with SPEED in their reps

The only time that the strongest train slow is on a very heavy weight for low reps cause they cant move the weight fast cause its so heavy...Dont bash Louie, obviously his training worked well for him, so did Arnolds.

 

[Robboe]

Yes, i follow M&F's routines for inches on your biceps in 4 weeks.

Boy you know me too well.

One more thing, do you really think he would have gotten anywhere near 270lbs without drugs?

BTW, nice bench. I lift 401lbs

 

[CytoMel]

Yes, i follow M&F's routines for inches on your biceps in 4 weeks.

Boy you know me too well.

One more thing, do you really think he would have gotten anywhere near 270lbs without drugs?

BTW, nice bench. I lift 401lbs

I think Louie would have still been really big without drugs, bnut all the top bodybuilders in the 1970s were taking something so its tough to measure Lou up next to the others. Near 270 yes but not as muscular. Good bench, if you want to join the conversation on the powerlifting forum and add pounds and pounds to your bench fasr then come on over and we can help. JOIN US!

 

[bigjam]

I have known hundreds of guys that use drugs and none of them look like Lou. If it were just the drugs then half this forum would be in the Mr. Olympia.

 

[Dantes]

Speed of the reps are important, but no one really seems to pay much attention to it. Example: Take one guy doing bent rows like he is trying to start a lawn mower, he'll be lifting for 15 seconds. Then take a guy who lowers for 3 seconds, pauses for 1, raises 2, he's lifting for twice as long. There is going to be a different training effect. It's just another training parameter like reps, sets, rest period, etc.

 

[needsize]

I have known hundreds of guys that use drugs and none of them look like Lou. If it were just the drugs then half this forum would be in the Mr. Olympia.

I agree, drugs are a tool to help you become a monster, but they make you a freak if you don't have the genetics to be one, as well as if your training sucks. My gym is full of guys that have been juicing for years and they all look like shit as their training sucks