Just started IGF- question

[missionpossible]

Hey Bros, I just started my IGF today. I ended my 12 week Test/Deca/d-bol cycle 1 1/2 weeks ago and just have 3 more days of HCG for 3 weeks total of the HCG. The boys are getting back to normal with the HCG and been running aromasin @ 10mg a day and Nolva @ 20 mg a day. Will up the Nolva on Wednesday after the HCG is finished.

Since today was the first IGF and not a workout day, I did sub -q in the belly twice @ 50 each time. Tomorrow is chest day and I'll do 2.5 each pec first thing and then same about 7-8 hrs later. I'm running the IGF @ 100 a day for 30 days.


Question on the IGF, when administering it IM, do you aspirate? I'm using 29g 1/2" 1/2cc insulin pins. Seems as though aspirating is going to be a bitch when its back day....

 

[maldorf]

Hey Bros, I just started my IGF today. I ended my 12 week Test/Deca/d-bol cycle 1 1/2 weeks ago and just have 3 more days of HCG for 3 weeks total of the HCG. The boys are getting back to normal with the HCG and been running aromasin @ 10mg a day and Nolva @ 20 mg a day. Will up the Nolva on Wednesday after the HCG is finished.

Since today was the first IGF and not a workout day, I did sub -q in the belly twice @ 50 each time. Tomorrow is chest day and I'll do 2.5 each pec first thing and then same about 7-8 hrs later. I'm running the IGF @ 100 a day for 30 days.


Question on the IGF, when administering it IM, do you aspirate? I'm using 29g 1/2" 1/2cc insulin pins. Seems as though aspirating is going to be a bitch when its back day....

I have run a couple of IGF cycles and I would say that you should always aspirate no matter what. I would like to say that I think you are wasting your time doing site injections. During my 4 week cycles I did ALL of my injections in my lagging left bicep trying to get it up to same size as my right. I havent seen it make any gains toward being the same size as my right. Both arms grew at the same rate. Most others will attest to the fact that the long IGF achieves its affect over the entire body, and that there really is no local effect at the injection site. Only thing you might see is some initial size increase due to some swelling, but that goes down. Do it in one single injection, and dont worry about doing it in the bodypart you are working that day. Everyone that I have seen report on this, me included, can also attest that the pumps you feel happen all over the body, not just where you inject.

 

[RADAR]

Theres no need to aspirate using a slin pin.
Just pinch a bit of skin around the midsection And shoot!

RADAR

 

[missionpossible]

I have run a couple of IGF cycles and I would say that you should always aspirate no matter what. I would like to say that I think you are wasting your time doing site injections. During my 4 week cycles I did ALL of my injections in my lagging left bicep trying to get it up to same size as my right. I havent seen it make any gains toward being the same size as my right. Both arms grew at the same rate. Most others will attest to the fact that the long IGF achieves its affect over the entire body, and that there really is no local effect at the injection site. Only thing you might see is some initial size increase due to some swelling, but that goes down. Do it in one single injection, and dont worry about doing it in the bodypart you are working that day. Everyone that I have seen report on this, me included, can also attest that the pumps you feel happen all over the body, not just where you inject.

Maldorf, do you think that you need to inject IM then or do you feel that sub q will give the same results? If you do think IM, just shoot into delts or quads?

Thanks Bro! By the way, did you see any gains from your IGF?

 

[missionpossible]

Theres no need to aspirate using a slin pin.
Just pinch a bit of skin around the midsection And shoot!

RADAR

Yeah, thats what I did for the sub-q inject, I was just wondering if I should aspirate for IM shots on workout days. I'm wondering which way to go with the IGF, maldorfs post has me wondering....I have to admit I have been a little aprehensive about the pec and bicep shots.

 

[RADAR]

spot injections are a myth i've been doing this over 30 plus yrs no aspirating is necessary.

Just stick to the mid section, you will experience some fat loss in that area by doing it! The end results are the same.

RADAR

 

[missionpossible]

Radar, do you recommend still breaking down the IGF injections to two per day 8 hours apart? Thnaks.

 

[Xconcept00]

yeah 8 hours apart is good. the half life i believe is between 6 to 8 hours. aspirating isnt necessary

 

[RADAR]

Twice daily is acceptable.

RADAR

 

[maldorf]

Maldorf, do you think that you need to inject IM then or do you feel that sub q will give the same results? If you do think IM, just shoot into delts or quads?

Thanks Bro! By the way, did you see any gains from your IGF?

I have never gone with the sub Q shots, I believe that will just mean a slower absorbtion rate and initial onset. Ive been doing IM for both IGF and slin. As far as gains from the IGF, it is really hard for me to say because I have only used it with AAS and slin. I am not the best to ask on this, and I think I may try it during PCT by itself sometime to really give it a test. I do know for sure that my pumps in the gym were much better and I look visibly better when using the IGF. I also feel like it increases my muscular endurance. As far as muscle mass gain, it is hard to say for me.

 

[missionpossible]

Well, did the sub-q Sunday and today was chest day so I went ahead and did both pecs this morning and that wasent too bad. Now the two shots late this afternoon wernt as pleasant. It burned pretty good and still is a little sore/burny feeling.

Maldorf, do you do spot IM with each muscle group on the day you work out that muscle group? Do you do both sets of shots in the same place that day? Guess I was a little surprised on the second set of shots today...

 

[maldorf]

Well, did the sub-q Sunday and today was chest day so I went ahead and did both pecs this morning and that wasent too bad. Now the two shots late this afternoon wernt as pleasant. It burned pretty good and still is a little sore/burny feeling.

Maldorf, do you do spot IM with each muscle group on the day you work out that muscle group? Do you do both sets of shots in the same place that day? Guess I was a little surprised on the second set of shots today...

If you page up and read my first post you will see that I have only been injecting the IGF into my left bicep. Yeah thats right, 2 injections each day for 4 weeks into my bicep only. I did not see anymore growth out of that bicep than my other. There is no more growth at the site of injection than in the rest of your body. So worrying about doing the bodypart you are doing that day is really pointless. Just find a place with little bodyfat and do your injection IM. Biceps are good for this. As far as pain, that can be cut down by using bacteriostatic water with your IGF injection. I suggest going to getigf.com and reading up.

 

[missionpossible]

thanks maldorf, I have read around on getigf, it has some good information for sure. I might give the bac water a try. The bi shot this morning were a little crampy. These little 29 g pins dont seem that sharp either, really gotta get some speed up or it just kinda bounces off! Any how, thanks again, K to all.