Just started 3rd week

[bivk]

And I'm up 15lbs but I have no idea whether its water retention, fat, or what. I using a-dex EOD but I personally see no difference in weight gain at all in the mirror. The scale doesn't lie though, and my diet has been good so far, sometimes I get lazy and I don't pack in as much food as other days. Strength has definatley been going up. Getting stronger every week I'm in the gym and the pumps are great. I'm at the point where its getting harder to flex my arms but they don't seem to be any bigger. I'm also at the point where I'm super paranoid about gyno. I don't know what got into my head but I'm making myself believe I'm developing it even though I have no side effects and my chest is the same exact size as always.

I'm currently on:

30mg dbol 1-6
500mg sust 1-8
300mg deca 1-8

 

[bivk]

Bump for responses.. also, will have pics up later tonight.

 

[JLA]

what is the question? gyno?

 

[bnutty187]

This is just my opinion but you're to early in the cycle to start noticing any serious visual gains however you've basically seen the only gains you're going to see at this point ie. more weight on reps, and more body weight.

Also more than likely the weight you've seen so far is more than likely mostly water due to the dbol.

You should start really seeing good gains around week 5-6 which is why a lot of people run deca/sust for 12-15 weeks due to it having a long acting esther. I would reccomend bumping the sust/deca to 12 weeks if you have enough.

This is from what I've been told and so far understand from all the research I've been doing due to the fact I've got limited experience with an actual stack of that nature. If someone could chime in and let us know if I'm right or if I'm just talking out of my ass that would be great . But I figured it has to start somewhere.

My two pennies.

 

[bnutty187]

Also as far as the gyno, you'll know when you start getting it. It's something for me that I knew what it was right away. Just make sure you have something on hand for it. Also I'm sure you know this but with a cycle like that make sure you have a good pct. There are a ton of good threads here for this, this is one of the best boards I've ever been on.

 

[sweed]

good gains so far.. most gains from dbol... mostly water ad some from the sust. did u take measurements before cycle? i was surprise how much my sizes grew even tho i didb;t seem bigger.

 

[bivk]

I'm the type of person that gets overly paranoid and I start to make myself believe I'm getting the symptoms. I usually never have any problems with gyno, or hair loss or anything.

I have arimidex, nolva for the gyno and clomid for the PCT. Taking arimidex EOD now so is it mostly water retention?

But I attached a few pictures so tell me what you think of the gyno possibilites.

http://www.ivkk.net/du/IMG_3419.JPG
http://www.ivkk.net/du/IMG_3420.JPG
http://www.ivkk.net/du/IMG_3422.JPG
http://www.ivkk.net/du/IMG_3423.JPG

 

[krishna]

Doesn't look like gyno to me. What are those on your shoulders? Stretch marks?

 

[bivk]

Ya I have them running from my shoulders to my biceps. But I'll post a full body picture tommorow after I get a good workout. I personally think I'm a good size for my weight but my arms are one of the most lagging body parts. I lost my 6pack due to the bulking diets from before that never worked. It just seems gear was the only way to go in this situation.