Jump starting a cycle without estrogen conversion?

[paul allen]

I'm wanting to do a bulker soon and put on 15-20lbs.
I am wanting to stay clear of anything that converts to estrogen, apart from a background test (I have my reasons, one of which is a dent in the credit card for surgery).

So I have decided on this cycle

Week 1-11 250mg Sus EW
Week 1-10 600mg EQ EW
Week 7-13 50mg Winstrol ED

Now what I'm wanting to do is jump start the cycle, as because test dose is so low and using EQ prob won't see anything for 4-5 weeks.

What can I kick start with, Dbol is out of the question, as is prop. Any ideas.
I was leaning towards 3 weeks of tren at 75mg EOD but don't know much about tren.

 

[googlepig]

What about a low dose of Dbol @ 20mg ed

Just take some Anti-e's like Nolva @ 10mg ed if you're that worried

 

[paul allen]

What about a low dose of Dbol @ 20mg ed

Just take some Anti-e's like Nolva @ 10mg ed if you're that worried

No! No dbol. For those not sensitive to gyno you can't appreciate the little amount anti-a's or anti-e's do against dbol. I can take 15mg ED with 0.5mg of a-dex and I still get itchy nips.

Anyone any other suggestions?

 

[b1ewsw32]

I'm wanting to do a bulker soon and put on 15-20lbs.
I am wanting to stay clear of anything that converts to estrogen, apart from a background test (I have my reasons, one of which is a dent in the credit card for surgery).

So I have decided on this cycle

Week 1-11 250mg Sus EW
Week 1-10 600mg EQ EW
Week 7-13 50mg Winstrol ED

Now what I'm wanting to do is jump start the cycle, as because test dose is so low and using EQ prob won't see anything for 4-5 weeks.

What can I kick start with, Dbol is out of the question, as is prop. Any ideas.
I was leaning towards 3 weeks of tren at 75mg EOD but don't know much about tren.

Get yourself some Var if easily accessible and within your budget.

Will go a long way in terms of protein synthesis,muscle fullness,vascularity and strength effects will be evident in two weeks.
Start on at least 40mgs/day. Good luck P.A.

BTW...great post on AlCar and libido enhancement tried throwing you some K..but I gotta pass it around some dude.

B32