Juicing it up.

[SeanHolmz]

I have been lifting for about 2 years now and have gained some but not as much as I want. I would like to know more about dbol and test and it's side effects and whatnot. Is there a drug that couteracts the estrogen effects? Is this stuff illiegal or is there a drug that has the same effects with a different name that is legal? Thanks.

 

[ROLGOR]

Bro you are asking for a lot of information in one post. Go to the search button and click on it. type in test. spend a few hours, better a couple days reading all the threads. then do the same with dbol. After that you can come back and not only ask intelligent questions. You can answer some newbies dumb question. No flame, just fact.

 

[xonic2xonic]

Probably your best bet is to post a new message asking for some sources. Ask them to send you some samples, gobble them up and see how you like them. With test and dbol you don't have to worry about estroegen, just make sure you take large quantities of them. 1500mg test/week would be good for you.

As far as legalities, you should take your gear down to a local police station and ask them to "certify" it for you. Demand that they do a full lab test for you (don't let them piss you around, it's their job.) If the gear is legit, you can register as a "medical user." If all is good, you might even ask if you can register as a local supplier, that way you can make a few $ to cover your costs.

 

[SeanHolmz]

k thx guys.

 

[jc21]

explain to me why you think you need to juice and will help you with anything you need. include stats, age, diet..etc.

 

[SeanHolmz]

age 20, weight 182, bf% not sure but should be between 15-20...I'm in the military and don't have a kitchen of my own so it's kind of hard for me to eat everything i need and want...but i usually eat the 3 full meals a day that i can plus drink a 40 g of nitro tech before i go to bed, 40 g at work, and 20 g after i workout along with a serving of celltech, i eat 2 cans of tuna a day on my own time, drink lots of milk as well...im getting at least 200 gs of protein a day however im not sure how many carbs im getting...i workout 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 2 off...the workouts shift each week so it's not a certain musclegroup on a certain day....but the workouts consist of legs and abs, chest tris and shoulders, back bis and forearms. I havn't stuck to this routine for the 2 years that I have been lifting and probably would see some decent gains out of it if i did however over the 2 years of lifting ive gained a grand total of about 20 lbs. I wanna hit about 220-230 then get work on cutting. I just read up on dbol, test, fina, deca, and a buncha other shit. I just wanna put that bulk on in a shorter period of time and don't plan on going as far as ejecting with fina or deca but rather hit up the dbol and test for bulk.

 

[Greek Freak]

Dont plan on injecting test?...hate to break it to you, but unless your using androgel your going to have to inject. If you decide to run an oral only cycle dont expect to keep much of your gains. Right now I would try to get a little leaner before I started to bulk, maybe around 12%BF then try and hit 200...from there you can set new goals, butr gaining 50-60 lbs is rediculous. I would try to change my diet/training up to spark some gains(even though i see that may be hard with your scheadule). Save the anabolics for when you need them more, your still quite young anyway so you should be able to see good gains as long as your training, diet and recovery are in order.

 

[SeanHolmz]

Ah, didn't notice the fact that test is injectable ;/ Oh well...I think im going to try to increase my protein, carb, calory intake and intensify my training a little more and see if I see any gains in the next couple months then I will decide. Thanks for the advice guys.

 

[ROLGOR]

hop over to diet board and lifting board. you can learn a lot that will help you see big improvement. When I was in barracks I kept things like tuna, sardiens ect in my room. hang around and keep learning. good luck bro.

 

[Greek Freak]

I agree with rolgar, the diet and training boards are good. I also know of a couple websites that might help you out:
www.testosterone.net
and www.ironmag.com
...both of those have good up to date info on them, and testosterone has weekly articles so there is a lot of material in the archives. Those sites can help give you an idea of what you want to do before you start planning things, or can make it so that you can plan out your own splits/routines/diets.

 

[jc21]

you just dont seem like you are quite ready for it to me. i mean you didnt even say why you wanna take it. and in my opinion i dont believe anyone is ready until they accept they need to use injectables. give it another year...and get up to 200 naturally. then give hear a try.

 

[Double89]

gear not for u

if i were u i wouldn't consider taking any gear for a while. someone that takes gear should be serious about it and not have a workout plan like that. while ur on any type of gear (almost any), its going to increase your recovery time (recuperation) and protein synthesis, which means u can hit the gym harder without being worried about injuries as much. but as far as test goes...its not oral. if ur afraid to stick urself then they're not for u. i also think you need to do ur research first. try ordering anabolics 2002 or any steroid reference manual and read it. u would be surprised about all the properties a steroid can have just by altering the positons of carbon and its bonds to the testosterone molecule (strand). now once you know you have that down u also gotta find a good source for your gear. alot of people get scammed so pick wisely. and always remember u run a risk by involving urself with it. piece out

 

[flex123]

Re: gear not for u

which means u can hit the gym harder without being worried about injuries as much.

Um I would say the reverse. While on juice if you don't have great form you increase chances of injury because your lifting much more weight.