Jenetic, if you get a minute...

[bigbair]

I have another HCG question. I am a fan of the protocol posted by DrJMW and it makes sence for PCT. The question I have is in regards to HCG use during a cycle in order to sustain testicular size. Would the use of this compound during your cycle have an impact on its effectiveness in PCT, and how would you suggest using it (dosage, duration, frequency, etc...) during the cycle? I know its differs for each individual whether or not this is actually necessary, but I have atrophy if I see a bottle of test. So in short, I'd like to incorporate it if it wouldn't jepordize the success of the PCT regimend.

Your advice is always appreciated.

bb

 

[Jenetic]

What type of cycle are you planning?

Jenetic

 

[bigbair]

That's in the works. I'm actually planning and collecting all my ancillaries before I even get my gear. The way I see it is that its the one way to make damn sure I have everything on hand before I get started.

Back to the question at hand...this is going to be a pretty basic cycle. Probably EQ for 10 to 12 wks at ~500 mg/wk with 25 mg dbol ed in wks 1 thru 5 and winni for the final six weeks at 100mg eod.

Alot of people might consider this to not be enough to mess with, but I prefer a more gradual approach over time with my AAS useage. My gains are pretty solid and I find that with a good diet and training regimend I keep most of what I gain and avoid the 'crash'.

Again, while I have naturally high testoterone levels, I still atrophy at the site of a bottle of test. Don't know why I am so sensitive, but I know I'd like to keep the boys in full form if possible. I know you may not consider it necessary in a cycle of this type, but keep in mind my seemingly sensitivity to this stuff.

Again, thanks for your input.

 

[Jenetic]

I feel your pain and concern. In this particular scenario, I would recommend using 500 IU's hCG ED in combination with 20 mgs nolvadex ED for 7 days consecutively halfway through the cycle. I don't see any major reason to be concerned when using hCG during your cycle as leydig cell desensitization from hCG is blocked/minimized by nolvadex. This occurs by supressing hCG's ability to inhibit the conversion of 17 alpha hydroxyprogesterone to testosterone. My primary reason for not recommending the usage of hCG during cycle is that it's really not necessary during cycles consisting of realistic dosages, durations and the proper ancillaries to manage the factors such as elevated estrogen and prolactin that may complicate and/or delay recovery.

Jenetic

 

[bigbair]

Once again, I appreciate your time and advice. I probably will run the HCG for 1 wk under the regimend you suggested at the middle of my cycle. I agree, alot of the time it is not necessary. However, I seem to be overly sensitive (you know...crying all the time, hurt feelings, etc...LOL) and HCG certainly helps me avoid the atrophy. Thanks again Jenetic.

Bb