Jay Cutler cycle

[pudzian2]

damn thats a crazy cycle. I find it hard to believe the human body can really process all of those drugs without falling seriously ill or just ceasing to function. Either its true and like he said, if he did it again he'd likely almost die, or it isnt true. Who knows. ITs believable....


As for Jay... He really keeps his deal under wraps for the most part. I has said to my face that he doesnt use nearly as much as people think/accuse him of. It's obvious he relies heavily on carbohydrates and insulin to pack on that kind of size. (vials of humalog and humalin in the fridge with some GH).

Although it IS speculation, I believe that he either cruises on test, test/deca or MAYBE (slight chance)...nothing in the off season while relying on GH and slin, and then runs a whole shabang when getting ready for a contest.

who knows.... I cant wait for this generation of bodybuilders to retire and disclose the truth about their various strategies.

steroids aside, I really think the synergy between insulin and GH is whats causing 300lb muscular physiques...not so much the AAS. (although without them it probably wouldnt be possible).

 

[bigdofba]

damn thats a crazy cycle. I find it hard to believe the human body can really process all of those drugs without falling seriously ill or just ceasing to function. Either its true and like he said, if he did it again he'd likely almost die, or it isnt true. Who knows. ITs believable....


As for Jay... He really keeps his deal under wraps for the most part. I has said to my face that he doesnt use nearly as much as people think/accuse him of. It's obvious he relies heavily on carbohydrates and insulin to pack on that kind of size. (vials of humalog and humalin in the fridge with some GH).

Although it IS speculation, I believe that he either cruises on test, test/deca or MAYBE (slight chance)...nothing in the off season while relying on GH and slin, and then runs a whole shabang when getting ready for a contest.

who knows.... I cant wait for this generation of bodybuilders to retire and disclose the truth about their various strategies.

steroids aside, I really think the synergy between insulin and GH is whats causing 300lb muscular physiques...not so much the AAS. (although without them it probably wouldnt be possible).

good points.

 

[KD1]

I cant believe Jay does not run at least 1g a week year round to maintain his mass.

 

[FunFun]

Jay seems pretty smart and realizes he can't keep it up for too long. He's milking his fame for all he can by working very hard to build his fortune while he can.

 

[chazk]

Titus once said - in a post on another board - that he was on so much shit the 2 years prior to winning his pro card that if he were to take that much again, he would need an organ donor on speed dial.

And Chris Dickerson is a bitter little man with a bad hip who wears rags that you wouldn't wash your car with and hangs around two moon faced 50+ year old roid freaks with nothing but teeth and no gums in their mouth. Had the nerve to call me a roid monkey in the Alibi about six months ago.

You relize dickerson is pushing 70 years old. Who cares what he wears.
I doubt chris is a bitter little man. He always shows up at the mrO exposes with a smile on his face.

maybe dickerson was right you are a roid monkey . hell I am a roid monkey .
dickerson prob looks around at the expo's every year and thinks everyone is roid monkey. Dickerson is from a different day and time of bodybuilding.

 

[galaxy]

Its nothing fancy. Look what that Japanese Pro BB was found to have in California when he was arrested. Test, tren, winny, and var with proviron and nolvadex for anti e's. Nothing fancy at all. Just stays on longer and has better genetics for the muscled drugged out look freakish look.

Jay probably does test and gh with some deca for joints in the off season. And Im willing to bet also his slin use is lower than you think. More is not better with slin and Chad Nichols even advocates lower doses. He probably does like 10ius slin. I bet guys on this board use more, thus there mistake.

 

[slat1]

i read somewhere, hehe, that jay uses 8g test EW year round. that's a baseline, is what i read. not claiming to know anybody, just something i read in a discussion like this

I will reluctantly state this. I work with the real person who designs "everything" for him on occassion.
No one is close. No, he does not use slin... anymore.
Their are people on this site that use more shit than he does.
That said I am not saying anything else. I was told everything I know in confidence.

 

[nzrodney]

I will reluctantly state this. I work with the real person who designs "everything" for him on occassion.
No one is close. No, he does not use slin... anymore.
Their are people on this site that use more shit than he does.
That said I am not saying anything else. I was told everything I know in confidence.

What does it matter what he uses anyway. In most cases it would not be relevant to us amateur BBers. Best just get out there & find your own poison. Who knows, you may stumble on the "super stack" that could put you up there too.

 

[jagerbombme]

What does it matter what he uses anyway. In most cases it would not be relevant to us amateur BBers. Best just get out there & find your own poison. Who knows, you may stumble on the "super stack" that could put you up there too.

fuckn a. i don't really see the harm in cruising on 750 to 1g. i know a few guys who've been on that for 5 years. that's baseline. hehe. just keep your estro in check, keep eye on b/w, and bp. im not saying i'm gonna do it. i just do this for looking good in the summatime and the babes. hehe. cruising for me is 175mg ew test p. that's a healthy dose to keep your dick just itchin for some pussy and keep size and strength

 

[pudzian2]

I will reluctantly state this. I work with the real person who designs "everything" for him on occassion.
No one is close. No, he does not use slin... anymore.
Their are people on this site that use more shit than he does.
That said I am not saying anything else. I was told everything I know in confidence.

I too have information in confidence from jay himself. You may be right that he does not use slin anymore, but he sure used a lot of it in the past. He probably would not be 300lbs without it....

I have spoken with Milos Sarcev about Jay and Ronnie, and you are right again. BOTH of them dont use nearly as much as we suspect, and there are guys on these boards with 2,3, even 4 times the amount of crap running through them.

It really doesnt matter WHAT they use for the purposes of saying, "oh if jay uses this I will too and ill be like him." Well thats BS.

My interest in this topic is strategy. I am curious as to what they use but what, how much, why, for how long, with what else, how does each thing compliment your DIET AND TRAINING in such a way that you are able to manipulate your physique to world class levels.

genetics are one thing. They just determine what kind of STRATEGY one must take to manipulate their own physique... I dont think people should say well I can never look like that becuase I dont have genetics.... Well yes you do, just figure out how to use them.

hearing what successful guys like jay do is a little reassurance and a point of relative comparison. they have "been there, done that" so to speak.

I respect that the information you have is in confidence and you dont wish to share, however I have shared the information (other boards, other times) that I found out first hand about certain guys. I think keeping it under wraps does more harm than good. Peopel ASSUME jay uses 8 grams per week or whatever and becuase he is alive and is supposedly dong that then people think it will work for them too.

AAS and performance enhancers get a bad rap becuase of mis-use. if there werent so many damn politics involved here we could all just get a piece of mind