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Silent Method
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I've been in a similar situation. Trust me, follow your heart.
To all you dissing his decision, listen up. You can advise him to rationalize with his conscience all you want. Give him reasons why he's being a pussy and so forth. I say your all blind to the fact that he is acting with courage and sacrificing a part of his life for what is truly important to him. I might add, especially for all you with poor attitudes toward women, I think you are pussys, afraid of the heart, courage, and discipline it takes to step up and be a real man.
Keep in mind, I'm NOT saying "real men wouldn't dare do steroids unless their woman says it's ok." If thats what you got out of this, then your too immature to offer advice here in the first place.
To all you dissing his decision, listen up. You can advise him to rationalize with his conscience all you want. Give him reasons why he's being a pussy and so forth. I say your all blind to the fact that he is acting with courage and sacrificing a part of his life for what is truly important to him. I might add, especially for all you with poor attitudes toward women, I think you are pussys, afraid of the heart, courage, and discipline it takes to step up and be a real man.
Keep in mind, I'm NOT saying "real men wouldn't dare do steroids unless their woman says it's ok." If thats what you got out of this, then your too immature to offer advice here in the first place.
Delinquent
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Silent Method said:
No that's not the case bro. If a girl is that brainwashed and hardheaded then I wouldn't be with her in the first place. That means that most likely she's like that about other issues as well. If she gives the ol' stop doing it or I'll leave obviously means that she wants to be in control. My girl wasn't into injecting but I told her too fucking bad. I'm not bullshitting. I told her to research it if she doesn't believe me. She finally accepted it and asked to help with my first injection. She's on an anavar cycle herself right now. Just like Cure said. It's about trusting one another. Contrary to what many believe, there shouldn't be compromise in a relationship. Giving up something to satifsy another will eventually lead to trouble. What you do is find a way of fulfilling each others needs and also be happy about the decision.
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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My policy on this is...
My use of sauce is a private thing. The only people that know I use gear are a few close friends who ALSO use AAS. I have not disclosed my use of steroids to my other friends who are not into it themselves.
I've lived with 2 different girls since I started AAS in 1999, I did it behind their back. When you're living with someone, that becomes a very stressful thing to keep personal. I don't involve myself with crazy dosages, so the desirable results were easily explained, neither of them ever accused me of anything. When other people asked them about my physical improvements, they just said "He's just getting more sleep, eating better, and working out harder."
The girl I'm with right now is a little tougher to skirt around(and I'm not living with her). She's a Medical student and is without a doubt, one of the brightest people I've ever met(both socially and academically). I love her more than anyone else I've ever been with, we have an amazing connection on every level. I've been with her for almost a year and only done one 12 week cycle since then. She has accused me several times, while I was clean and while I was on. I feel awful for lying to her and trying to justify this deceipt here is making me feel pretty bad. However, I know that there is no way I'll ever be able to convince her that the cost/benift ratio of AAS use is in favor of benifts. She has completely bought into all the typical Medical bull-shit about this and I can't compete with the dozens of professors who have educated her about the negative effects of AAS.
Some of my friends who are AAS users, openly profess their habit to everyone. One guy in particular, saw me walking through a very crowded common area at the University and yelled "HEY @#$*!". So I walk over to his table, where he's sitting with a bunch of people(who are obvious NON-AAS users!). He proceeds to pull out a whack of gear he just got. Did I EVER feel uncomfortable. I'll never understand that kind of thought process. All of us sauce-hounds obviously don't agree with main-stream society's opinion on AAS, but wheather its fair or not, we're being judged by these people every day. I think my use of steroids has given me countless of advantages over non-users, but I still care what kind of impression I make on these people.
I keep this facet of my life private. Some day I'll stop using steroids, but until then, it is something I am not prepared to disclose to anyone but a select few.
Sorry this is so long winded guys, its just something I'm really passionate about.
Peace,
S.
My use of sauce is a private thing. The only people that know I use gear are a few close friends who ALSO use AAS. I have not disclosed my use of steroids to my other friends who are not into it themselves.
I've lived with 2 different girls since I started AAS in 1999, I did it behind their back. When you're living with someone, that becomes a very stressful thing to keep personal. I don't involve myself with crazy dosages, so the desirable results were easily explained, neither of them ever accused me of anything. When other people asked them about my physical improvements, they just said "He's just getting more sleep, eating better, and working out harder."
The girl I'm with right now is a little tougher to skirt around(and I'm not living with her). She's a Medical student and is without a doubt, one of the brightest people I've ever met(both socially and academically). I love her more than anyone else I've ever been with, we have an amazing connection on every level. I've been with her for almost a year and only done one 12 week cycle since then. She has accused me several times, while I was clean and while I was on. I feel awful for lying to her and trying to justify this deceipt here is making me feel pretty bad. However, I know that there is no way I'll ever be able to convince her that the cost/benift ratio of AAS use is in favor of benifts. She has completely bought into all the typical Medical bull-shit about this and I can't compete with the dozens of professors who have educated her about the negative effects of AAS.
Some of my friends who are AAS users, openly profess their habit to everyone. One guy in particular, saw me walking through a very crowded common area at the University and yelled "HEY @#$*!". So I walk over to his table, where he's sitting with a bunch of people(who are obvious NON-AAS users!). He proceeds to pull out a whack of gear he just got. Did I EVER feel uncomfortable. I'll never understand that kind of thought process. All of us sauce-hounds obviously don't agree with main-stream society's opinion on AAS, but wheather its fair or not, we're being judged by these people every day. I think my use of steroids has given me countless of advantages over non-users, but I still care what kind of impression I make on these people.
I keep this facet of my life private. Some day I'll stop using steroids, but until then, it is something I am not prepared to disclose to anyone but a select few.
Sorry this is so long winded guys, its just something I'm really passionate about.
Peace,
S.
Silent Method
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First, let me say that just because you have are in love with a woman who does not approve of AAS does not mean you MUST give up AAS. This is a personal decision, on which the user must make.
You have to understand, this is NOT something she is making him do. This IS something HE feels he NEEDS to do FOR her. Big difference here.
When you find somebody that you would die for, with no hesitation whatsoever, thats love. When you have real love, you live in such a way that you honor the one who you love. Yes, this can mean compromising a part of yourself. Thats called discipline. We do it everyday in the gym. We do it everyday with our strict diets (well, some of us do).
Love compels us to honor. Honor takes discipline. Discipline takes sacrifice.
I understand where some of you like Delinquent are comming from. I don't think any purely rational woman, educated about steroids, would make their use a make or break issue in a relationship with someone she truly loved. However, I have yet to meet a purely rational woman. They are emotional creatures. So much more can be "felt" into this issue than the black and white of what steroids are and are not.
Let me say that of course we should not do anything and everything, giving up any given part of ourselves, to make a woman happy. As a man, some elements of our being are inherently displeasing to a woman. Part of "being a man" to the woman you love is being well disciplined enough to bring forth that essence of you wich pleases her while within her presence.
BTW, good post SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY.
You have to understand, this is NOT something she is making him do. This IS something HE feels he NEEDS to do FOR her. Big difference here.
When you find somebody that you would die for, with no hesitation whatsoever, thats love. When you have real love, you live in such a way that you honor the one who you love. Yes, this can mean compromising a part of yourself. Thats called discipline. We do it everyday in the gym. We do it everyday with our strict diets (well, some of us do).
Love compels us to honor. Honor takes discipline. Discipline takes sacrifice.
I understand where some of you like Delinquent are comming from. I don't think any purely rational woman, educated about steroids, would make their use a make or break issue in a relationship with someone she truly loved. However, I have yet to meet a purely rational woman. They are emotional creatures. So much more can be "felt" into this issue than the black and white of what steroids are and are not.
Let me say that of course we should not do anything and everything, giving up any given part of ourselves, to make a woman happy. As a man, some elements of our being are inherently displeasing to a woman. Part of "being a man" to the woman you love is being well disciplined enough to bring forth that essence of you wich pleases her while within her presence.
BTW, good post SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY.
Keep Your Mouth Shut
Don't tell her you juice. She will never be convinced that it is safe. She will consult her friends, and her friends, out of jealousy, will convince her otherwise. On a different note, if you ever break up, she will tell everybody that you are a juicehead, if she hasn't already.
In reply to an earlier post,
"On another note guys..Girls (most of them) are not that dumb. Can most of you tell when a guy is juiced? I know there are some genetic freaks out there but if a girl is with you then you miraculously gain 20 pounds of good solid muscle in 3 months do you really think they are that stupid not to know?"
Yes, girls are dumb. 99% of them don't know anything about juice, and you can always convince them that you took supplements. They won't know the difference. Most of us here can tell if a guy is juiced, b/c most of us have read enough about juice to get a PHD on the subject.
Don't tell her you juice. She will never be convinced that it is safe. She will consult her friends, and her friends, out of jealousy, will convince her otherwise. On a different note, if you ever break up, she will tell everybody that you are a juicehead, if she hasn't already.
In reply to an earlier post,
"On another note guys..Girls (most of them) are not that dumb. Can most of you tell when a guy is juiced? I know there are some genetic freaks out there but if a girl is with you then you miraculously gain 20 pounds of good solid muscle in 3 months do you really think they are that stupid not to know?"
Yes, girls are dumb. 99% of them don't know anything about juice, and you can always convince them that you took supplements. They won't know the difference. Most of us here can tell if a guy is juiced, b/c most of us have read enough about juice to get a PHD on the subject.
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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Silent Method- Wow! I put you in the same category as Plato and Socrates. That's some deep shit. I'll be coming at ya if I ever need some counsellng.
Dbol- Well said. I agree, things could get ugly with the heat if the relationship ends up in the shitter. My 2 previous relationships did go that way and I'm glad I didn't give'em anything to use against me.
Dbol- Well said. I agree, things could get ugly with the heat if the relationship ends up in the shitter. My 2 previous relationships did go that way and I'm glad I didn't give'em anything to use against me.
MrRTTB
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Thanks guys..Well I've decided not to tell her. If I do I don't know what would happen, so I think It's best just to drop the steroids. In time I will tell her, but I think It will be easier to tell her, and for her to accept, If I'm not "on". The past is the past, so to speak. Girls are not stupid, well not all of them anyway. My girlfriend is smart, and when it comes to steroids and her view on it, it has nothing to do with beeing smart or not. It's just the fact she knows very little about the sport of bodybuilding and what "drugs" some of us use. She knows very little because she is just not interested in it.
If she left me for telling her, It wouldn't have much with the steroids it self to do. It would be more because I had done it behind her back, and she would never be able to trust me again. She probably would say something like If I could do something like this behind her back, what more have I done behind her back. If I told her nothing, would she believe me....I think not.
I know I will tell her one day, but telling her right away would be very wrong. I think It's better to tell her when I got some distance to this. When I can look back and say I just had to choose, It didn't feel right.
I think the hole anti-steroids thing is ugly. When it comes to "trying" drugs It's more ok, but when it comes to steroids it more like "NO WAY". I don't know how people look at it in the US, maybe people look at it in another way, maybe not.
If she left me for telling her, It wouldn't have much with the steroids it self to do. It would be more because I had done it behind her back, and she would never be able to trust me again. She probably would say something like If I could do something like this behind her back, what more have I done behind her back. If I told her nothing, would she believe me....I think not.
I know I will tell her one day, but telling her right away would be very wrong. I think It's better to tell her when I got some distance to this. When I can look back and say I just had to choose, It didn't feel right.
I think the hole anti-steroids thing is ugly. When it comes to "trying" drugs It's more ok, but when it comes to steroids it more like "NO WAY". I don't know how people look at it in the US, maybe people look at it in another way, maybe not.
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