It came to me today

[Spartacus]

during a four hour struggle embalming an obese bone donor
I was cursing and sweating as it's quite a bit more difficult
I thought why is it almost all the bone donor's are obese
and it occured to me the connection

 

[PICK3]

I'm listening

 

[Spartacus]

they've most likely been disgusted with their bodies their whole life
a life filled with discontentment with their bodies
such that they make the wish that maybe some use can be made of them

 

[Cutiebaby]

whys that?

 

[PWTurbofan]

....

 

[Spartacus]

and it all came into focus
you are happy when you make others happy

 

[Gambino]

they've most likely been disgusted with their bodies their whole life
a life filled with discontentment with their bodies
such that they make the wish that maybe some use can be made of them

point taken

 

[PICK3]

and it all came into focus
you are happy when you make others happy

Be a Pepper ... drink Dr. Pepper
Be a Pepper ... drink Dr. Pepper

 

[Spartacus]

don't be happy with yourself
quit thinking of yourself so much

 

[Spartacus]

turn your focus outside of yourself
be kind to others,strangers even

 

[Spartacus]

you'll never be happy otherwise
because you're not leaving this world
no matter how much shit you buy

 

[PWTurbofan]

turn your focus outside of yourself
be kind to others,strangers even

i think tho that in general, the kindest of people are those who have some level of personal happiness.

 

[Cutiebaby]

4ever-are you sauced????


Kinda makes sense. Wow my first time understanding a 4everhung thread,yah me!

 

[jackangel]

if you think you understand 4ever, you're not paying attention.

 

[Spartacus]

i think tho that in general, the kindest of people are those who have some level of personal happiness.

how do you know?
regardless I think any of us could make a person smile when you're out at walmart
just fucking anybody pick out and make them smile
think how you feel when someone makes you smile

 

[blueta2]

I smile at strangers all the time...and most smile back. Random acts of kindness lead to other randoms acts.

 

[Spartacus]

I smile at strangers all the time...and most smile back. Random acts of kindness lead to other randoms acts.

this is better than that
lose yourself

 

[blueta2]

this is better than that
lose yourself

lose myself where and how?

 

[PICK3]

MM69 started a similar thread entitled, "It came on me today"

 

[Spartacus]

lose myself where and how?

I'm not sayin' don't take of the dishes etc.
get it in your head to get out of yourself
it's hard for me as I'm so conflicted
but I know I have a lot to give,and can

 

[PWTurbofan]

how do you know?
regardless I think any of us could make a person smile when you're out at walmart
just fucking anybody pick out and make them smile
think how you feel when someone makes you smile

Agreed, but true kindness comes naturally and isn't forced.

I was walkin home from work once and this almost-baglady looking lady stopped me. She was old, had no teeth, was dirty and hunched over. She asked me to help her cross the street. And I did. Granted, I slathered with rubbing alcohol when I got home, but I helped. This damn woman said she stood there for 15 minutes waiting to cross the street.

 

[Spartacus]

and it all came into focus
you are happy when you make others happy

that small part in thier mind

 

[blueta2]

I'm not sayin' don't take of the dishes etc.
get it in your head to get out of yourself
it's hard for me as I'm so conflicted
but I know I have a lot to give,and can

wait, let me spark up a joint so I can comprehend what the hell you're talking about ..hehe
Kidding...I don't smoke dope!

Well if u have lots ot give, then give it. Why are you so conflicted?

 

[Spartacus]

Agreed, but true kindness comes naturally and isn't forced.

I was walkin home from work once and this almost-baglady looking lady stopped me. She was old, had no teeth, was dirty and hunched over. She asked me to help her cross the street. And I did. Granted, I slathered with rubbing alcohol when I got home, but I helped. This damn woman said she stood there for 15 minutes waiting to cross the street.

I think we hold ourselves back. we could each give more

 

[blueta2]

Agreed, but true kindness comes naturally and isn't forced.

I was walkin home from work once and this almost-baglady looking lady stopped me. She was old, had no teeth, was dirty and hunched over. She asked me to help her cross the street. And I did. Granted, I slathered with rubbing alcohol when I got home, but I helped. This damn woman said she stood there for 15 minutes waiting to cross the street.

Forced kindness can become a habit and can actually make the person who is forcing it become kind.

 

[Spartacus]

wait, let me spark up a joint so I can comprehend what the hell you're talking about ..hehe
Kidding...I don't smoke dope!

Well if u have lots ot give, then give it. Why are you so conflicted?

because we tend towards selfish
It's OK
but I believe we're all born good
envy,pride,greed etc. are acquired
and it means nothing

 

[PWTurbofan]

because we tend towards selfish
It's OK
but I believe we're all born good
envy,pride,greed etc. are acquired
and it means nothing

self-love = the all natural opiate

when you're content with yourself, your kindess is done unto others.

 

[blueta2]

because we tend towards selfish
It's OK
but I believe we're all born good
envy,pride,greed etc. are acquired
and it means nothing

you are right...humans are a selfish bunch! Some more than others.
I am only selfish with my emotions. I am truly giving and kind and there are MANY ppl like me walking this planet
I do not think all ppl are born good. I think there is bad and good in the world. Everything has it's yin and yang. People born into goodness can turn out to be pretty evil

 

[Spartacus]

self-love = the all natural opiate

when you're content with yourself, your kindess is done unto others.

how much in your head do you think of yourself?
we live most of our lives in our head

 

[blueta2]

how much in your head do you think of yourself?
we live most of our lives in our head

or in the cases of my 2 ex's, they live in their ass ;-)

 

[Spartacus]

or in the cases of my 2 ex's, they live in their ass ;-)

see you got issues
nothing wrong there we all have them
but earlier you claim we all aren't born good
can you pick out the bad babies?

 

[blueta2]

see you got issues
nothing wrong there we all have them
but earlier you claim we all aren't born good
can you pick out the bad babies?

true, every human has issues..
yes the bad babies are the ones that cry, poop, don't sleep and crawl all over the place. Kids are only good when they are about 20 yrs old ;-)

I think ppl with a good sense or intuition can tell an evil soul.

 

[Spartacus]

there are no evil souls
you aren't born with an "evil" soul
you acquire it
from others

 

[PWTurbofan]

yes the bad babies are the ones that cry, poop, don't sleep and crawl all over the place.

lolololololol!!

but blue is right. some people are just born "bad" and don't have a chance. that's bad nature.

others end up fucked-up because of circumstances and their environment. that's bad nurture.

 

[blueta2]

lolololololol!!

but blue is right. some people are just born "bad" and don't have a chance. that's bad nature.

others end up fucked-up because of circumstances and their environment. that's bad nurture.

I truly believe this....."bad nature" as you call it. I mean maybe not evil as much as wired wrong..I guess it's how you look at it. But there is no way in hell we are all born equal.
And then yes you can be born good and have shitty circumstances and then be unkind. but I know many ppl (my Mom included) that had bad circumstances but are still inherently good/kind

 

[Spartacus]

I think my thought is losing it's wind

 

[Spartacus]

have fun fighting for yourself in this cynical world

 

[PWTurbofan]

have fun fighting for yourself in this cynical world

lol....bro, the haze will all wear off by tomorrow AM.

 

[Spartacus]

lol....bro, the haze will all wear off by tomorrow AM.

are you joking about my intoxication?
stand in my shoes
i'm not saying you can't
i'm asking you
please

 

[H_T_]

i'm in a haze myself. it's hard around the holidays, when people should be their happiest, they're usually most miserable. i'm listening to the Ramones doing a cover of Surfin' Bird, trying to shake the work week off of me.....i'll be slightly decompressed by Sunday evening. just in time for Monday....

 

[PWTurbofan]

are you joking about my intoxication?
stand in my shoes
i'm not saying you can't
i'm asking you
please

everyone's shoes carry different loads...nobody has it easy 100% of the time.

 

[Spartacus]

everyone's shoes carry different loads...nobody has it easy 100% of the time.

the point my thread rested on in the beginning

 

[Big Rick Rock]

and it all came into focus
you are happy when you make others happy

don't be happy with yourself
quit thinking of yourself so much

turn your focus outside of yourself
be kind to others,strangers even

you'll never be happy otherwise
because you're not leaving this world
no matter how much shit you buy

You really touched me with what you are saying.
I figured this out a little while ago. Helping other people be happy, or being there for them in a time of need. Brings joy to me, to see others happy and it was as a direct result of their interaction with me.
It's not about being a suck up, or doing whatever anybody asks you to do... You can recognize a person has a need. May it be a place to stay, or a plate of food. Or maybe those $50 - $100 that gets that last bill payed.
Give to the ones that don't ask, because those are the ones that need it.

The common belief is that a real friend helps you in a time of need. I think that the only way to make a real friend, is to approach them at their time of need, and offer them some help. Then you'll have a friend for life. And you'll know yourself if you truly want their friendship, since you befriended them when you had nothing to gain from them... Instead they needed of you.

Anybody can make acquaintances, all day, everyday.
But how many people can go thru life, making friends for life, their whole life?


All this material bullshit, all of these things we hold on to. All the stuff we put in our homes or on ourselves... It doesn't mean shit if you don't have people who truly care for you. When you are too old and blind to drive that car. Too old and cripple to make use of all the sqft in your property. Old and wrinkled to where no garment or jewel can make you attractive. Too heart sick to every fly to an exotic land again... The money wont mean anything, if you don't have people around who truly care about what happens to you.
Just because you have a lot of family, it doesn't guarantee you'll have people there for you in your last years of life. Some times your own family are the ones who are too busy to care.
Its the ones you have helped along the way. The ones you have been there for. The ones who weren't just born to be related, but actually chose to be your friend and be there for you at you worst of times and best of times.


I want to make a lot of money in my lifetime. A LOT!
Not because I want to adorn myself with bullshit trinkets that have no value other than the one in our minds. But because with money, I can create opportunities for others. I can make an investment into somebodie's life at a turning point, and change the way they life for years to come... Just the right amount, at the right time is all it takes.
I can hand out plenty of Fishing Rods, and fish while they learn how to do it on their own. Because the poor man at my doorstep today, can be the one who gets me out of jam tomorrow... And even if that person never thanks you, life will bring back whatever you give 10 fold. Good or bad.


Bottom line.
Your life is not worth shit if you don't live to improve other's.




-BRR

 

[Spartacus]

You really touched me with what you are saying.
I figured this out a little while ago. Helping other people be happy, or being there for them in a time of need. Brings joy to me, to see others happy and it was as a direct result of their interaction with me.
It's not about being a suck up, or doing whatever anybody asks you to do... You can recognize a person has a need. May it be a place to stay, or a plate of food. Or maybe those $50 - $100 that gets that last bill payed.
Give to the ones that don't ask, because those are the ones that need it.

The common belief is that a real friend helps you in a time of need. I think that the only way to make a real friend, is to approach them at their time of need, and offer them some help. Then you'll have a friend for life. And you'll know yourself if you truly want their friendship, since you befriended them when you had nothing to gain from them... Instead they needed of you.

Anybody can make acquaintances, all day, everyday.
But how many people can go thru life, making friends for life, their whole life?


All this material bullshit, all of these things we hold on to. All the stuff we put in our homes or on ourselves... It doesn't mean shit if you don't have people who truly care for you. When you are too old and blind to drive that car. Too old and cripple to make use of all the sqft in your property. Old and wrinkled to where no garment or jewel can make you attractive. Too heart sick to every fly to an exotic land again... The money wont mean anything, if you don't have people around who truly care about what happens to you.
Just because you have a lot of family, it doesn't guarantee you'll have people there for you in your last years of life. Some times your own family are the ones who are too busy to care.
Its the ones you have helped along the way. The ones you have been there for. The ones who weren't just born to be related, but actually chose to be your friend and be there for you at you worst of times and best of times.


I want to make a lot of money in my lifetime. A LOT!
Not because I want to adorn myself with bullshit trinkets that have no value other than the one in our minds. But because with money, I can create opportunities for others. I can make an investment into somebodie's life at a turning point, and change the way they life for years to come... Just the right amount, at the right time is all it takes.
I can hand out plenty of Fishing Rods, and fish while they learn how to do it on their own. Because the poor man at my doorstep today, can be the one who gets me out of jam tomorrow... And even if that person never thanks you, life will bring back whatever you give 10 fold. Good or bad.


Bottom line.
Your life is not worth shit if you don't live to improve other's.




-BRR

my pain is different
I isolate myself

 

[H_T_]

but you can't help everyone. and failing a person is a bigger failure than when failing yourself. i'm sure i coulda put that better....

 

[Spartacus]

but you can't help everyone. and failing a person is a bigger failure than when failing yourself. i'm sure i coulda put that better....

yeah I know
I respect you tremendously

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Agreed, but true kindness comes naturally and isn't forced.

I was walkin home from work once and this almost-baglady looking lady stopped me. She was old, had no teeth, was dirty and hunched over. She asked me to help her cross the street. And I did. Granted, I slathered with rubbing alcohol when I got home, but I helped. This damn woman said she stood there for 15 minutes waiting to cross the street.

It is natural for us to be selfish. It is natural for us to want more and more for ourselves, and give less and less to others. We are born this way. You have to over time, discover the joys of seeing others happy. Discover the joys of going with a little bit less for yourself, so that you can give a little bit more to another. The drops that may be overflowing your bucket, can mean a rainfall on somebody else's drought. Once you learn to take pleasure in helping, it gets easy.


Just for the record. I'm not high or drunk or anything. I already quit every sort chemical happiness in my life. I won't, every again, let any foreign substance fool my brain into being happy at a life that is not. Not even alcohol. Nowadays, my happiness is coming from within. True happiness, very real, more so than the one in a bottle or cloud of smoke.
I'm only up because I'm used to being up partying on a Friday night, Now I'm just home alone, thinking about life. Looking for peace within me, and Finding it.





-BRR

 

[Spartacus]

my mind flows all the time
bothers me when I sleep
I could be three people

 

[Big Rick Rock]

my mind flows all the time
bothers me when I sleep
I could be three people

And you probably are.

Good night all. off to bed.




-BRR

 

[Spartacus]

put the lime in the coconut

 

[Spartacus]

then you'll feel better

 

[Big Rick Rock]

put the lime in the coconut

My belly feels just fine ok!


Harry Nilsson?

Now you are dating yourself/s. lol

Good Night.


-BRR

 

[Spartacus]

My belly feels just fine ok!


Harry Nilsson?

Now you are dating yourself/s. lol

Good Night.


-BRR

not to kill the thread
tell me I'm a fool to cry
Rolling Stones

 

[Mr. dB]

Someone who's been telling himself his whole life "I'm not fat, I'm big-boned" would naturally want to share those big bones with someone less skeletally endowed.

 

[Spartacus]

Bennie and the Jets

Hey kids, plug into the faithless
Maybe they're blinded
But Bennie makes them ageless
We shall survive, let us take ourselves along
Where we fight our parents out in the streets
To find who's right and who's wrong

 

[PICK3]

It is natural for us to be selfish. It is natural for us to want more and more for ourselves, and give less and less to others. We are born this way.
-BRR

But why are we born that way? Why don't we have a natural instinct to help the needy and the elderly?

Wouldn't it be better for the preservation of our species if we had a "worker ant" mentallity and functioned on premises of what's better for the masses and our planet rather than "what's in it for me"?

and why do I want a new vehicle when I only have 5k miles on my present one?

why dammit?

 

[Spartacus]

I do it when I work funerals
when I have my "game face" on
I smile much
you can make your smile heartwarming
I hate looking glum
so I don't do that

 

[healother]

i cant believe you guys wasted so much time on this thread.

 

[stilleto]

You really touched me with what you are saying.
I figured this out a little while ago. Helping other people be happy, or being there for them in a time of need. Brings joy to me, to see others happy and it was as a direct result of their interaction with me.
It's not about being a suck up, or doing whatever anybody asks you to do... You can recognize a person has a need. May it be a place to stay, or a plate of food. Or maybe those $50 - $100 that gets that last bill payed.
Give to the ones that don't ask, because those are the ones that need it.

The common belief is that a real friend helps you in a time of need. I think that the only way to make a real friend, is to approach them at their time of need, and offer them some help. Then you'll have a friend for life. And you'll know yourself if you truly want their friendship, since you befriended them when you had nothing to gain from them... Instead they needed of you.

Anybody can make acquaintances, all day, everyday.
But how many people can go thru life, making friends for life, their whole life?


All this material bullshit, all of these things we hold on to. All the stuff we put in our homes or on ourselves... It doesn't mean shit if you don't have people who truly care for you. When you are too old and blind to drive that car. Too old and cripple to make use of all the sqft in your property. Old and wrinkled to where no garment or jewel can make you attractive. Too heart sick to every fly to an exotic land again... The money wont mean anything, if you don't have people around who truly care about what happens to you.
Just because you have a lot of family, it doesn't guarantee you'll have people there for you in your last years of life. Some times your own family are the ones who are too busy to care.
Its the ones you have helped along the way. The ones you have been there for. The ones who weren't just born to be related, but actually chose to be your friend and be there for you at you worst of times and best of times.


I want to make a lot of money in my lifetime. A LOT!
Not because I want to adorn myself with bullshit trinkets that have no value other than the one in our minds. But because with money, I can create opportunities for others. I can make an investment into somebodie's life at a turning point, and change the way they life for years to come... Just the right amount, at the right time is all it takes.
I can hand out plenty of Fishing Rods, and fish while they learn how to do it on their own. Because the poor man at my doorstep today, can be the one who gets me out of jam tomorrow... And even if that person never thanks you, life will bring back whatever you give 10 fold. Good or bad.


Bottom line.
Your life is not worth shit if you don't live to improve other's.




-BRR

this is true. you're a good person, but you were before you knew this.
also, don't try to make sense with 4everhung. he's in his own spacial plane

 

[Spartacus]

this is true. you're a good person, but you were before you knew this.
also, don't try to make sense with 4everhung. he's in his own spacial plane

I've had two serious girlfriends in my five or so years here
both would read through my posts
"it's like talking to you"

 

[stilleto]

I've had two serious girlfriends in my five or so years here
both would read through my posts
"it's like talking to you"

maybe that's why they aren't gf's anymore. they didn't understand you.

 

[Spartacus]

maybe that's why they aren't gf's anymore. they didn't understand you.

oh but they did
one said
"I'm still trying to figure you out"
she wasn't one of the two

 

[stilleto]

oh but they did
one said
"I'm still trying to figure you out"
she wasn't one of the two

i think "still trying to figure you out" means they haven't quite done it yet.
she's not in the picture anymore, so maybe she should have tried a little harder.

 

[Spartacus]

i think "still trying to figure you out" means they haven't quite done it yet.
she's not in the picture anymore, so maybe she should have tried a little harder.

39 and 3 kids
be telling me she would have babies with me
some kind of northwest stewardess flight chief
be calling me from portugal and detroit and shit
look it up
lisbon is a northwest hub

 

[Big Rick Rock]

4 Eva Hung iz Crizzo fo shizzo.



-BRR

 

[Big Rick Rock]

But why are we born that way? Why don't we have a natural instinct to help the needy and the elderly?

Wouldn't it be better for the preservation of our species if we had a "worker ant" mentallity and functioned on premises of what's better for the masses and our planet rather than "what's in it for me"?

and why do I want a new vehicle when I only have 5k miles on my present one?

why dammit?

Not really. Ants live as a single organism, and the worker ants have nothing to gain by working for themselves, they leave behind no offspring. Only the queen can, they must work for the queen and colony.

Humans create offspring of their own, and their offspring will compete for food, mates and shelter with the offspring of other humans, the way their parents compete with other parents trying to raise young.
Even in the pack, there is a fight for dominance, the first to eat, the first choise in mate, the best sleeping spot ect ect ect....
The pack mentality is a thing of the past, best left in the cave.




-BRR

 

[PICK3]

Not really. Ants live as a single organism, and the worker ants have nothing to gain by working for themselves, they leave behind no offspring. Only the queen can, they must work for the queen and colony.

Humans create offspring of their own, and their offspring will compete for food, mates and shelter with the offspring of other humans, the way their parents compete with other parents trying to raise young.
Even in the pack, there is a fight for dominance, the first to eat, the first choise in mate, the best sleeping spot ect ect ect....
The pack mentality is a thing of the past, best left in the cave.




-BRR

Yeah ... that was a reach with the "ant" thing. I'm not really familar with their socio structure, but my point was (and I do have one) "Why don't we have a stronger instinct to do the right thing"?