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Isolaroic Dieting (refresh from NJStacked post)

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Hey guys... As you know NJStacked made a post on this diet and there was tons replies to it. However it was a 2 year old thread. Instead of bumping it im re-freshing it to get some new traffic.


The Iso-Caloric Diet
by Dan Duchaine

While it is possible to lose more than one pound per week through further calorie reduction or by increasing aerobics, you will lose some muscle along with the fat. On paper, your body will look as if the diet is working. The mirror, however, will tell a different story. Even a 5 percent change in calories or aerobics will cause muscle loss.

The first way to prevent muscle loss is to change the fat to carbohydrate ratio. In the Iso-Caloric Diet, these are changed to: 1/3 Protein 1/3 Fat and 1/3 Carbohydrate. Adjusting these ratios will cause faster fat loss. Although there is a scientific explanation for this phenomenon, I first discovered it the hard way through trial and error. No other combination worked.

At first, it seemed logical to try reducing calories further, but this caused too much muscle loss too quickly. Does increasing protein help maintain muscle mass? Nope, it doesn't. Increasing aerobics looks like a popular choice -- after all, gyms have lots of steppers and rowers and bikes, all occupied with well-meaning individuals. Aerobics must be good, right? Wrong! As a matter of fact, increased aerobics causes just as much muscle loss as calorie restriction.

After screwing up in so many other ways, I finally arrived at the 1/3 ratios. Most athletes won't be happy with this. They've been conditioned not to eat dietary fat. Besides, lowering carbohydrates increases hunger and anxiety for a while. However, eating lots of carbohydrates makes your metabolism unable to burn fat efficiently.

If you have patience and not too much fat to lose, you will probably get damn close to your goal with the Modern Diet. The Modern Diet will allow you to be relatively happy, sociable, energetic and feed your carbohydrate addiction.

When "damn close" isn't close enough, you need the Iso-Caloric Diet. Will you be hungrier? Only at first. Will your strength decrease? Again, only at first. Will you loss muscle? Less than you would with any of the other alternatives.

In the Iso-Caloric Diet, we are once again concerned with the quality of the body's energy sources, not the quantity. Some people will object to eating a diet that is 1/3 fat. Fat is B-A-A-A-D, isn't it?

Fat isn't perfect, but it's all we have to work with. We can't decrease total calories because we don't want to lose muscle. The high carbohydrates of the Modern Diet will need to change to either protein or fat. Exchanging the carbohydrates for protein won't work because not all of the amino acids can be converted into energy. Much of the amino acid content is excreted as urea, a waste product. Calorie for calorie, protein will not provide the same energy as carbohydrates. This is why high protein diets cause faster fat loss than high carbohydrate diets. Because protein has less usable energy, the body will strip down muscle to scavenge the energy-producing amino acids. Glutamine will be used first, then the branched-chain amino acids, then alanine.

If we can't eat protein, all that's left is fat. Eating more fat will also reduce insulin secretion and make the fat-burning energy pathways more efficient. In the presence of insulin, the body will not release stored fat for energy. Therefore, as dieters, we want to reduce insulin secretion.

In the future, there may be better alternatives. The latest nutritional research shows that dietary pyruvate and lactate can activate alternative energy cycles that work better than fat or protein. These future foods will not cause insulin secretion, allowing faster fat loss while preserving more muscle from catabolism. Right now, however, these options are both tantalizing and futile. Currently, both pyruvate and lactate are hard to find, expensive, bad-tasting and boring to eat.

Almost all fat -- saturated or not, essential or not -- will work in the Iso-Caloric Diet. Energy-wise, it doesn't matter. You could use MCTs, for that matter, but they're are not as much fun as an additional serving of oily fish, walnuts or avocado.

If you followed my recommendations for fat choices in the Modern Diet, you are eating mostly essential fats. You would be shocked at how little fat you'll need to eat to increase fat calories by 23 percent. Salad and cooking oils don't take up much room. It doesn't take many avocados or walnuts to add a lot of calories. How about -- dare I say it -- peanut butter (no trans, that is)? Surely this isn't diet food.

Some people have asked me: If the Iso-Caloric Diet is so superior to the Modern Diet, why didn't I recommend it first? Well, most people are used to something like the Modern Diet. It's easy to start, "believe" and follow. Each change in longstanding habits requires more discipline.

Why increase protein by 8 percent? Fatty foods usually contain protein. Eggs, fish, meat, and that slice of cheese you can finally eat all contain protein in addition to fat. Even peanut butter contains protein.

The Iso-Caloric Diet requires more discipline than the Modern Diet, but if you're impatient, or have an inflexible timetable, the Iso-Caloric Diet will get you virtually all the way to your goals. The Modern Diet won't. Of course, strength and energy will suffer for about 5 days, but after that, you'll feel even better than before.

The Iso-Caloric Diet begins to solve a major problem in dieting (aside from hunger and anxiety): impatience. While the problem of impatience has not been completely solved, we've appeased it for now. Although there is a better diet plan to come, it is illuminating to examine the preliminary solutions to the dilemmas I've encountered in my years as a professional body confidante.


NJStacked

Ok, as I have said in the past, this diet is sick it is the best one out there...I have worked with this diet and teach it to everyone who needs a great diet to build muscle and cut the fat....I carry around a piece of paper with me, noting the fat,carbs and protein I eat thoughout the day....

Why this diet is the best?

1. No cravings
2. Decrease body fat while building strength.
3. High Energy levels
4. Variety of foods
5. Everyday is like a cheat day!

How it works?

Find your maitenance calories or multiply body weight x 12....

so a 200lb person would need 2,400 calories per day...to lose a little weight, but to lose more drop 200 calories or to gain lean muscle increase by 200 calories....

NExt didvide your calories by 33.3%

So, that is 800 calories of Fat, Carbs and Prot...a day.....

this turns out to be roughly....

200 grams Protein
200 grams Carbs
85 grams Fat
============

Now, just know what you eat and mark it down throughout the day...fuck worrying about brown rice...eat the white and mark it down...eat mayo or non fat mayo either way mark it down....have real bacon or pizza or candy, just know what you eat and mark it down.....Obviously i take in high quality protein and fats, but If I want Mayo I have it or if I want pizza I eat it....My staples are peanut butter and graham crackers...If i want carbs at night I dont eat them all day until night time.....However you do it, you will see this is the BEST way to to eat and bodybuild.....

Hope this Helps,
NJstacked
 
Was the thread of scanning Duchaine's Iso Handbook ever finished? I cant find it for some reason.

Btw, I love ISO so bump for this.
 
Fuck the CrubBun Diet.....

My new Diet is Mr. X's Carb Cycling Diet....I like it as much as the great Dan Duchaines Iso-Cal. Diet
 
MrMakaveli said:
Was the thread of scanning Duchaine's Iso Handbook ever finished? I cant find it for some reason.

Btw, I love ISO so bump for this.

yup... Ill find the link and ill post it..
 
Thats right Mohawk...i back you hard for reposting this...

One question... Crumb Who?
 
Lets take a moment of silence for the GREAT ONE...."Dan Duchaine".............................
 
gained 20lbs while on this diet... with 15X lean weight fat is the same... 14%
 
I think the ISO cal. diet by Dan Duchaine is a great legendary diet but it's old. The new school dieting is NOT based on patterned dieting, but it's based on CYCLING or changing around the food intake so the body does not adjust to what you eat; hence the metabolic shifting.

www.mesomorph.net
great diet board and info

Mr.X
 
True...

But most people cannot or will not get all scientific on their diets. This is a good basic guidline. Enables you to eat what the wife and kids eat!
I am no longer single and have to eat what the wife cooks... lol
 
ISO's great that's for sure... but don't y'all think it's basically the same as BFL (or BFL is the same as ISO, since it came first)?
 
Just thought Id bump this back up so people cantake advatage of a sound diet.
 
Mr. X, i just read your protein/carb cycling diet, and i really love it, im gonna definitely use that one when i diet in january after i put on more size, one question for you...

u never touch on grams of fat, which would equal out the equation of total calories...would you just times ur bweight by 12, and subtract the total calories of carbs and proteins, and just make up the difference to get to 12x ur bweight in fat calories?

thanks bro, cant wait to try that one out...
 
JoNaThAnPeTeRs said:
Mr. X, i just read your protein/carb cycling diet, and i really love it, im gonna definitely use that one when i diet in january after i put on more size, one question for you...

u never touch on grams of fat, which would equal out the equation of total calories...would you just times ur bweight by 12, and subtract the total calories of carbs and proteins, and just make up the difference to get to 12x ur bweight in fat calories?

thanks bro, cant wait to try that one out...

JoNaThAnPeTeRs,

Yes, that's correct, but fat is almost non existant in the diet, mostly it comes from flaxseed in the morning and night or MCT. I made the diet more of a protein/carb based for the low-fat fad, rather then anything. Yes, weight x12 is what you're looking to get.

Mr.X
 
am I missing something here I thought that the ckd was THE diet to lose fat and maintain muscle. Perhaps we are just talking iso caloric for a day to day maintainance type thing. Sounds pretty much like the zone diet to me. the ratio's are pretty close. I'm sticking to the ckd. It only takes me 32 hours to hit ketosis and I am never hungry on it, unlike bfl in which I lost an inch on my arm size in less than 3 weeks.
 
oneandthesame said:
am I missing something here I thought that the ckd was THE diet to lose fat and maintain muscle. Perhaps we are just talking iso caloric for a day to day maintainance type thing. Sounds pretty much like the zone diet to me. the ratio's are pretty close. I'm sticking to the ckd. It only takes me 32 hours to hit ketosis and I am never hungry on it, unlike bfl in which I lost an inch on my arm size in less than 3 weeks.

ZONE=ISOCALORIC

same thing...Dan Duchaine came out w/ it first, but it was copied.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X I back your Carb Cycling Diet and reallt think it is the easiest diet to stick to and I love the th day Carb Load....I always have a decent pump with the diet...

Mohawk...Cant believe you posted this again....Anyway...it was a pretty funny post....

Mr.X...Keep up the great work..many people like myself thrive on your knowledge and work...
 
Mr.X said:


JoNaThAnPeTeRs,

Yes, that's correct, but fat is almost non existant in the diet, mostly it comes from flaxseed in the morning and night or MCT. I made the diet more of a protein/carb based for the low-fat fad, rather then anything. Yes, weight x12 is what you're looking to get.

Mr.X
Mr. X, if i am going on a 12 weeker of adding mass, eating a ton of protein and good amount of carbs...then going into a cut cycle...would you recommend me going on that CKD diet or this protein/carb cycling diet...i like the sounds of the cycling diet because of the high protein and low carbs...but what is your reco...i assume if i go on that diet that i can get under 10% easily(cycling one)...all your help is appreciated as always...
 
NJstacked said:
Mr.X I back your Carb Cycling Diet and reallt think it is the easiest diet to stick to and I love the th day Carb Load....I always have a decent pump with the diet...

Mohawk...Cant believe you posted this again....Anyway...it was a pretty funny post....

Mr.X...Keep up the great work..many people like myself thrive on your knowledge and work...
Stacked, a couple questions...

why do u like the cycling more than the isocaloric...

what type of cardio do you do...

how many bf points(%) do u go down when u go on the cycling diet...i want to try this one when i cut in january...i like the way it looks...
 
and lastly, Mr. X, when im on this mass diet, what do you recommend to eat before you workout, what kind of meal...thanks a bunch...what do you personally like for your carbs? and why dont many eat pasta, what is it about pasta that makes it not a good choice for carbs, while yams are the better...
 
JoNaThAnPeTeRs said:

Mr. X, if i am going on a 12 weeker of adding mass, eating a ton of protein and good amount of carbs...then going into a cut cycle...would you recommend me going on that CKD diet or this protein/carb cycling diet...i like the sounds of the cycling diet because of the high protein and low carbs...but what is your reco...i assume if i go on that diet that i can get under 10% easily(cycling one)...all your help is appreciated as always...

I would say CKD would be a better idea, since you just came out of a bulking phase that included a lot of carbs. CKD will improve insulin sensitivity, which was downregulated as a result of the frequent insulin spikes w/ the bulking diet.

Mr.X
 
JoNaThAnPeTeRs said:
and lastly, Mr. X, when im on this mass diet, what do you recommend to eat before you workout, what kind of meal...thanks a bunch...what do you personally like for your carbs? and why dont many eat pasta, what is it about pasta that makes it not a good choice for carbs, while yams are the better...

Before the workout I usually recommend MCT oil, 2tbsp. MCT w/ a protein shake. I like oatmeal/brown rice/yams/sweet potatoes/pasta/beans/corn

Pasta is low-gi, highly effective when trying to keep the insulin at bay.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


Before the workout I usually recommend MCT oil, 2tbsp. MCT w/ a protein shake. I like oatmeal/brown rice/yams/sweet potatoes/pasta/beans/corn

Pasta is low-gi, highly effective when trying to keep the insulin at bay.

Mr.X
so, being i am a meso/endo, is pasta my friend or my foe...

thanks again X man
 
JoNaThAnPeTeRs said:

so, being i am a meso/endo, is pasta my friend or my foe...

thanks again X man

Ok, I'll guess friend...

Have you seen the game show FRIEND OR FOE? my wife watches it all the time, that's what this post reminds me of lol

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


Ok, I'll guess friend...

Have you seen the game show FRIEND OR FOE? my wife watches it all the time, that's what this post reminds me of lol

Mr.X
actually, my girlfriend watches that show religiously, thats pretty funny u said that...didnt even make the correlation...

being its our friend, is it true that yams/s potatoes, rice, and oatmeal are "better" carbs for our purpose is i have the ability to chose which one i can eat...
 
JoNaThAnPeTeRs said:

actually, my girlfriend watches that show religiously, thats pretty funny u said that...didnt even make the correlation...

being its our friend, is it true that yams/s potatoes, rice, and oatmeal are "better" carbs for our purpose is i have the ability to chose which one i can eat...

best carbs: oatmeal/brown rice/ yams/ sweet potatoes/pasta

end of story...let's get off Mohawk's thread lol

Mr.X
 
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