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Is Your First Cycle Actually Your BEST cycle- True?? Or False??

Texas Ranger

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I've seen this thrown out there so many times, but have to wonder if it's REALLY true. Ok, if diet, training & recuperation are in order. Do you actually see your best results(ie.muscle growth) on your First Cycle? Or is this another gym myth? What has been your experience???
 
Texas Ranger said:
I've seen this thrown out there so many times, but have to wonder if it's REALLY true. Ok, if diet, training & recuperation are in order. Do you actually see your best results(ie.muscle growth) on your First Cycle? Or is this another gym myth? What has been your experience???

It depends what AAS you are stacking, your genetics and how developed you are from years of natural training.

My first cycle was a Deca/Winny simple stack, and yes my strength was off the hinges, which is how I grade how the stack went.....Genetically, I grow regardless, it's the strength which tells me how successful the cycle was.

Hope this helps, bro

DIV

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there must be something to the concept of "virgin receptors", specific to each particular drug. the first time i touched var, i grew like a weed on just 10 mg daily (btg), and i felt like king kong.

later btg and papervar cycles weren't anywhere near.

same thing first time with dbol, vs later dbol's.
eq, test same.
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i would go with anavar only for the fist one, after all, it is more anabolic than androgenic, thats less side effects. I would go for a 8 wk 25-35 mg a day var only cycle. I would save the test for later use, maybe the third os fourth cylce, after you run out of less androgenic AAS such as eq, primo etc.
 
I definitely don't think that you make your biggest gains on your first cycle. The reason being is that you are inexperienced and you don't know exactly how your body will react. No matter how much research you do you can't predict what your body will do on what drug. No matter what anyone tells you everybody is different and some anabolics/androgenics might work wonders for some people but do nothing for you. It is only after you have done numerous cycles that you can best gauge what works for you and fine tune your diet and training to maximize your goals based on the drug you are taking.
 
your body can only get so big on X amount of food, usually you get pretty close to that on your first cycle, and i feel people have a harder time upping the cals than they do the dosages.
 
Texas Ranger said:
I've seen this thrown out there so many times, but have to wonder if it's REALLY true. Ok, if diet, training & recuperation are in order. Do you actually see your best results(ie.muscle growth) on your First Cycle? Or is this another gym myth? What has been your experience???

I don't believe that your best muscle growth occurs with your first cycle because of the lack of experience. I think when a person gains more experience and get a better understanding as to how AAS works with their bodies, only then can that person get the full benefit. Yes because your receptors are clean, you tend to gain more weight on your first cycle, but not necessarily muscle weight. Once you gain the experience you learn a little trick such as what stacks the best and when to change up within a cycle to continue muscle growth. For we tend to just start a cycle with one AAS for 10 to 14 weeks straight without adding something else in there later in the cycle to attack other receptors from the other side! For example, too many people run dbol for 6 weeks straight, however if that person pays close attention he will find that the largest weight gain from dbol occurs in the first 3 weeks and tapers after that, therefore dbol is more effective if cycled on and off 3 weeks at a time within an injection cycle! Say your running a 12 week test/eq cycle. Run dbol weeks 1-3 and weeks 9-12 or even 10-13 rather than weeks 1-6...
 
MY first cycle was only a 7 week sus 250/wk cycle by itself. I gained alot of strength and a bit of size, but I lost all of it when I went off it. So my second cycle I hope will be a great one.
 
AMGETR said:
MY first cycle was only a 7 week sus 250/wk cycle by itself. I gained alot of strength and a bit of size, but I lost all of it when I went off it. So my second cycle I hope will be a great one.

what'd you do for pct?
 
my first cycle was definitely my corniest. why? cuz i didnt know what the fuck i was doing(something like deca 200mg a wk with primo 200mg a week for 12 weeks). boy how i crashed at the end of that one! research and experience is the key. experimenting over the years i have found that nothing makes me stronger than test and winny, and nothing packs bodyweight onto me faster(with bloat) than dbol. as far as var goes, i think its way too expensive for what it is, AND IT WILL ALSO SHUT YOU DOWN! i have firsthand experience with this! the only benefit from var is that you get no water retention. i would much rather do EQ with winny for way better results and similar sides. and for me, deca sucks.. CLARIFY YOUR GOALS AND THEN CHOOSE THE APPROPRIATE COMPOUNDS TO HELP YOU ACHIEVE THEM....
 
yes by far my first cycle was the best and the simplest..btg var 25 mg's a day/ creatine...amazing strength and kept 20 lbs!!!!!!!!! and most of the strength...was not shut down at all..i wish all my ycles could be that succesful, but unless i do drol(never happen) i will never gain like that again and keep it....with test yeah you gain, but i loose most of it!
 
StrongIsland22 said:
I definitely don't think that you make your biggest gains on your first cycle. The reason being is that you are inexperienced and you don't know exactly how your body will react. No matter how much research you do you can't predict what your body will do on what drug. No matter what anyone tells you everybody is different and some anabolics/androgenics might work wonders for some people but do nothing for you. It is only after you have done numerous cycles that you can best gauge what works for you and fine tune your diet and training to maximize your goals based on the drug you are taking.
Are you kidding? I kept 15lbs on my first cycle, that's after all the excess water I pissed out. My strength was off the hook, I was doing 5 sets of 315lbs of 8 times each set. The later cycles, my strength never got as high as the first one.
 
yomama said:
Are you kidding? I kept 15lbs on my first cycle, that's after all the excess water I pissed out. My strength was off the hook, I was doing 5 sets of 315lbs of 8 times each set. The later cycles, my strength never got as high as the first one.


What was your first cycle?
 
hammertime30 said:
What was your first cycle?
My first cycle was 1 omna a week, 5 retabolil a week, and russian dbol 250 pills used in 8 week cycle. This was the only cycle which I gained over 30lbs, I went from 174 to 208. A lot of water retention, I've never since got this much water retention, even tho my cycles were about the same. Now I'm stuck at over 200.
 
yomama said:
My first cycle was 1 omna a week, 5 retabolil a week, and russian dbol 250 pills used in 8 week cycle. This was the only cycle which I gained over 30lbs, I went from 174 to 208. A lot of water retention, I've never since got this much water retention, even tho my cycles were about the same. Now I'm stuck at over 200.

No wonder why you gained that much, you ran dbol (russian) for fucking 8 weeks. Off course you were going to make some serious gains no doubt, but not the smartest thing in the world to do...I bet even now you are still holding a little water...not saying that you didn't gain lots of muscle from the cycle, but running russian dbols for 8 weeks straight is fucking suicidal...Did you know that in the past that russian dbols is known to have hospitalized quite a few bodybuilders with permenant organ damage? So you got lucky if you didn't receive some sharp pains here and there...don't recommend you doing that again!
 
hammertime30 said:
No wonder why you gained that much, you ran dbol (russian) for fucking 8 weeks. Off course you were going to make some serious gains no doubt, but not the smartest thing in the world to do...I bet even now you are still holding a little water...not saying that you didn't gain lots of muscle from the cycle, but running russian dbols for 8 weeks straight is fucking suicidal...Did you know that in the past that russian dbols is known to have hospitalized quite a few bodybuilders with permenant organ damage? So you got lucky if you didn't receive some sharp pains here and there...don't recommend you doing that again!
Yeah I know that was too much, now I dont abuse it as much. Sure, I hold a little bit of water, but I only noticed it coming on at the end of my cycle, dont know why, it's usually very noticible in my face, the first place I get it.
 
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