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is ugliness important in a man

Lao Tzu

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now, i never thought i was ugly, until i put myself up at FTJ & hotornot, just to get responses. I don't know if the photo was bad or not, but i got mostly 1s, 2s, 3s & 4s. That sucks. I don't care if i'm not physically attractive, as long as i'm not sooo ugly that that becomes a problem or makes me different from anyone else.

basically, if a man is ugly does it matter? WIll it change how others look at him or view him? i don't think so, at least i hope not.
 
nordstrom said:
now, i never thought i was ugly, until i put myself up at FTJ & hotornot, just to get responses. I don't know if the photo was bad or not, but i got mostly 1s, 2s, 3s & 4s. That sucks. I don't care if i'm not physically attractive, as long as i'm not sooo ugly that that becomes a problem or makes me different from anyone else.

basically, if a man is ugly does it matter? WIll it change how others look at him or view him? i don't think so, at least i hope not.
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I feel you, I am ugly aswell.
 
Nobody really likes ugly people when they first meet them. Nor do they normally want to carve their throats out either. I'm not exactly sure what the concept behind FTJ or hotornot is supposed to accomplish, but if it involves the internet, chances are there are teenagers and bone-shining old men all over it.

Take it with a rail of clorox.
 
I had to laugh at this thread sorry! Don't be hard on yourself and who cares what others think. Just act like your God and you'll feel better about yourself. Then you won't just be ugly you'll be the ugly guy who thinks he is the shit.:D
 
Satanic Goatslayer said:
Nobody really likes ugly people when they first meet them. Nor do they normally want to carve their throats out either. I'm not exactly sure what the concept behind FTJ or hotornot is supposed to accomplish, but if it involves the internet, chances are there are teenagers and bone-shining old men all over it.

Take it with a rail of clorox.
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yeah, all bs aside i don't care if celebrity worshipping 17 year old girls aren't attracted to me. I just don't want to be soooo ugly that it causes problems in my day to day life.
 
nordstrom said:



yeah, all bs aside i don't care if celebrity worshipping 17 year old girls aren't attracted to me.
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thats a shame, post up a pic here and i will tell you the truth.

btw i have neevr meant an ulgy guy becasue i dont look at them that way...as for "girls" thats another story.
 
HulkRow said:

thats a shame, post up a pic here and i will tell you the truth.

btw i have neevr meant an ulgy guy becasue i dont look at them that way...as for "girls" thats another story.
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You don't have to be gay to be able to tell if someone is ugly or not.. ever been to Uglypeople.com? .. tell me you cant tell the guys on there arent ugly.
 
Well i think what satanic goatslayer said is right.Looks really are a prerequisite to just about everything. i mean peopel guys or girls always levitate towards good looking people granted thereare exceptions i know a butt ugly guy whos with a gorgous women everynight.
 
Hey man, you might not be another High Intensity, but I'm sure you're no-where near as ugly as you think you are.

Women in general have very differing standards when it comes to male beauty. Personally, I've run the gambit from "gross" to "hot" so that goes to show you that women are just as fucked in the head on this issue, as are on most others :D
 
Taps said:
Hey man, you might not be another High Intensity, but I'm sure you're no-where near as ugly as you think you are.

Women in general have very differing standards when it comes to male beauty. Personally, I've run the gambit from "gross" to "hot" so that goes to show you that women are just as fucked in the head on this issue, as are on most others :D
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Honestly, that applies at guys towards women aswell. I find beauty in many women that my friends will not agree. Diffrent guys see women in diffrent ways too. So, is there truly no "Ugly"?
 
nordstrom said:
I don't know if the photo was bad or not, but i got mostly 1s, 2s, 3s & 4s
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LMFAO.
Now that is some funny, funny shit.
Especially considering that retards are gettin 6's and 7's.

Time to save up for some plastic surgery.
 
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Drunken_Weasel said:


I didn't say I was gay, so no.
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You also didnt say you were straight, so I think you meant to say yes.
 
I guess i'm not ugly according to others. Like we really have anything to do with it. But there are days that I feel ugly and want to stick my head in the sand and not talk to people.
 
Can I ask why anyone would post their picture on that site, or on others like it? I mean I understand vanity and such, but that is just sad.
 
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Bullit said:


LMFAO.
Now that is some funny, funny shit.
Especially considering that retards are gettin 6's and 7's.

Time to save up for some plastic surgery.
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:lmao:

that was hilarious. I never thought of that. someone with downs syndrome is more attractive than i am.
 
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nordstrom said:



:lmao:

that was hilarious. I never thought of that. someone with downs syndrome is more attractive than i am.
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:D i've been laughing for the last 10 minutes about that. An anonymous face with downs syndrome does better than me. i'm laughing so hard right now.




ahhhh. I asked a girl from college & she said she didn't think i was ugly (she has a crush on me though). Hopefully it was just the picture. I looked depressed & angry in it, and the lighting was bad. women thought i was hot 6 years ago (they told me), wtf happened? all i want is to be average enough to not be rejected instantly.

This is funny. I know i'm supposed to be hurt & whatnot, but i think its hilarious. Downs syndrome people do better than me. :lmao:
 
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Darktooth said:



You're laughing on the outside, but crying in the inside. I can help.
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no. i honestly don't think i care if i'm not pretty. I just don't want to be so ugly that people reject me w/o getting to know me first.

That was hilarious, what bullit said though. i'm laughing as i type this.

PM or email me if you want to help.

(ps, why don't you have a VHS player? are you sooooo 21st century that you won't use VHS tapes?)
 
NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, LOOKS MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ITS JUST TO WHAT DEGREE OF DIFFERENCE THEY MAKE IS THE QUESTION FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL.


ITS FUNNY YOU POSTED THIS, CUZ AFTER I SAW GOLFER PUT UP HIS PIC AND GOT A 9+ RATING, I PUT ONE UP AND MY RATING HAS RANGED FROM 9.2-9.7 SO FAR. SOMETHING LIKE 250-300 PEOPLE RATED IT. BUT THEN AGAIN, DOWN SYNDROME PEOPLE GET FUCKING 7'S.


KAYNE
 
2Thick said:
Nord,

Remember that mostly men frequent those boards. If a guy in envious, he will vote you down to make himself feel better.

Maybe you are good looking enough to threaten other guys. That would explain a lot.
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:D. nice try. All bs aside i don't care if i'm not attractive. i just don't want to be so ugly that that is all people see when they are around me. I doubt its that bad though It was probably jsut a bad picture. Even, by some chance it was true, i can still get around it.

The downs syndrome remark has died down. its not as funny now, but maybe it will pick up again in an hour or so.
 
nordstrom said:



:D. nice try. All bs aside i don't care if i'm not attractive. i just don't want to be so ugly that that is all people see when they are around me. I doubt its that bad though It was probably jsut a bad picture. Even, by some chance it was true, i can still get around it.

The downs syndrome remark has died down. its not as funny now, but maybe it will pick up again in an hour or so.
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I was serious. Do not sell yourself short.

Psychologically, most attarctive women think they are unattractive.
 
you can always change, I was not born with a great body or a face that everyone was in love with. H.S. sucked for me, no girls, 132 pounds of twig.

well at 18 I decieded to change myself forever, it has worked out pretty good, sure I still see that twig loser at times, but at least I got it to the point where girls ask me out now.
 
2Thick said:


Male psychology is a little different.

Confidence has no real connection to general attractiveness, since other factors are more important such as power, prestige and social skills.
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lets see...
Power - i dont care about
Prestige - i dont care about
Social skills - ok, i care about this one
Attractiveness - maybe just because ive never been attractive, i care about this.

Shit, I'm a woman.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:


lets see...
Power - i dont care about
Prestige - i dont care about
Social skills - ok, i care about this one
Attractiveness - maybe just because ive never been attractive, i care about this.

Shit, I'm a woman.
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LOL...

The things I mentioned are subconscious. You do not know, but it is ingrained.
 
Darktooth said:



It's hard to change your face though.

I thought you looked like James Dean anyway? heh heh
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Id say around 16 my face started to become handsome. I had braces, glasses and terrible hair before that. But lifting has helped in that area as well, my neck got bigger, jaw line came in nicely.

I hit what I would call my peak at 21-22, I don't know what it was but getting girls was very easy. Including having a small fan club, I had no clue who these girls were, but I was taken to their house and supposedly they had goggled over me for a while.

anyway I am always bulking, so while my body is better then ever, I believe my face looked better at 175 pounds then now.
Oh well I will diet hard after I hit 230-35, and I still have girls come up to me...just not like the old days.
 
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2Thick said:


LOL...

The things I mentioned are subconscious. You do not know, but it is ingrained.
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But, the only reason I look to gain power thru lifting, is to improve my looks, and improve my chances with women. All my life I have felt ugly, overweight (wait.. I didnt feel it, I was it), and hopelessly shy.

So, would this still fit under "Power"?
Im not violent, I have no strive to be more powerfull than others. I've never been in a fight, and honestly, if one were to start, I beleive I would try to walk away.

I also dont look to be rich, or presigious in any way. I want to have just enough status to live. Just enough money to make it by. But most importantly, someone to love, and to be with.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:


But, the only reason I look to gain power thru lifting, is to improve my looks, and improve my chances with women. All my life I have felt ugly, overweight (wait.. I didnt feel it, I was it), and hopelessly shy.

So, would this still fit under "Power"?
Im not violent, I have no strive to be more powerfull than others. I've never been in a fight, and honestly, if one were to start, I beleive I would try to walk away.

I also dont look to be rich, or presigious in any way. I want to have just enough status to live. Just enough money to make it by. But most importantly, someone to love, and to be with.
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Power and the others I have mentioned are dynamic terms. They could mean physical power for one person and to other knowledge is power (excuse the pun).

Most men try to attain power, prestige and status in order to fulfill a primal desire to attract the most women to plant their seed in.

Now we just go through the motions and follow a pattern without really knowing why.

In your quest to find love and comfort, you will need to provide stability and security along the way. That is what attracts women.
 
POWER, PRESTIGE, SOCIAL SKILLS, ATTRACTIVENESS.....I CARE ABOUT THEM ALL.



KAYNE
 
honestly, one of my friends is one of the ugliest people i have seen, FOR REAL!, but he's gotten more puss than most of my friends, and almost all have been better than average women...most might have been sluts he met at the bars, but they have been hot.....he was very out going, and didn't care if he got shot down.....but really, if you ask out enough good looking girls, one is bound to say yes.....this guy was very out going, but very annoying and ugly, so i have no idea man, i believe most of it is the way you act.....if you act like your are the shit, people will think so....and that is a fact.
 
big_bad_buff said:
honestly, one of my friends is one of the ugliest people i have seen, FOR REAL!, but he's gotten more puss than most of my friends, and almost all have been better than average women...most might have been sluts he met at the bars, but they have been hot.....he was very out going, and didn't care if he got shot down.....but really, if you ask out enough good looking girls, one is bound to say yes.....this guy was very out going, but very annoying and ugly, so i have no idea man, i believe most of it is the way you act.....if you act like your are the shit, people will think so....and that is a fact.
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The mans actually correct, unless you live in a state like NY with overlly aggressive women, chances are no matter how good looking you are women will not just come up to you all the time. Personality and confidence are key factors, few women want a shy reserved guy.

So if they look around the bar and see some guy living it up talking to everyone, they may say to themselves, that guy looks like fun.

Guys less then girls, need more of an overal attractive image then drop dead looks. Thus you will see many times a girl dating a guy that seems way beneath her. But he caught her attention with either, a bad boy appeal, confidence, humor, money, great sex...hell something drew her to him.

it's odd but true, also I find alot of girls are shy to approach a guy who they deem to be to much of a challenge.
 
I agree with most of what's been said about women being attracted to power, prestige, etc...

But like H.I. said, maybe a guy just really knows how to satisfy her physically. In that case, power, prestige, even looks are not as important.

It seems like women are less *excited* about men they have committed relationships with. Once committment is attained, he is no longer exciting to her. You don't really need power, prestige or even looks to get laid with awesome women. But if you want a relationship, you need them... and then she will always have the desire to "cheat" on you with more mysterious, unattached men. Basically, in order to be desired, you need to show that you just don't care. That involves *not* getting attached, ever. If you get attached, you are just a provider and don't excite her anymore. That's why I always say that monogamy and "love" are actually lies.
 
:devil:
It's all how you carry yourself. If you exude self confidence women will find you attractive.

Me, I'm shy. I have to break out of my shell.
 
2Thick said:



I was serious. Do not sell yourself short.

Psychologically, most attarctive women think they are unattractive.
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2Thick you just hit the nail smack on the head..... :)

Nord, forget about hot or not, that site is skewed.
Every girl there gets 8's and 9's.........LOL

Thats just not possible.

Fonz
 
i hate being ugly, and sadly it does matter to women, nordstrom think yourself lucky if i'd have posted on hot or not i'd have been the first guy to average a minus score
 
Become 260 pounds at 10 percent bodyfat you can look like shit yet no guys will fuck with you and youll still get mad pussy.
 
notpuff said:
Become 260 pounds at 10 percent bodyfat you can look like shit yet no guys will fuck with you and youll still get mad pussy.
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words to fuckin live by, notice its all about the "mad pussy"

mad pussy indeed.
 
lol
I saw that pic and it was just a bad pic.
you just had a silly frowny face on and it looked like strange lighting - maybe flourecent (sp?)

but don't let these other people on here fool you - life is all about what other people think of you.
without that, you are nothing.

I thought you looked pretty normal - I was totally disappointed - was hoping for more of the serial killer vibe that I used to get from your posts when you were asexual.
 
Hey Nord, you ugly motherfucker, you...
I'm not trying to be an asshole, lord knows I aint no Brad Pitt... but the 1-4 range is virtually unheard of. You must look worse than a bag of smashed assholes.

Honest... I cant see you being that bad. As long as you can mack chix that u are attracted to, who cares?
 
From my [female] point of view: Men are not supposed to be pretty. If you want to look like a backstreet buy then so be it, but you will have more men and 12 year old girls after you than anything. Men are supposed to be rougher. No one wants a man that takes longer in the bathroom or in front of the mirror than they do. That is just wrong. I think you are a cutie.
 
Kali said:
From my [female] point of view: Men are not supposed to be pretty. If you want to look like a backstreet buy then so be it, but you will have more men and 12 year old girls after you than anything. Men are supposed to be rougher. No one wants a man that takes longer in the bathroom or in front of the mirror than they do. That is just wrong. I think you are a cutie.
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Maybe pretty but women want a good looking man just as much a man wants a good lookign women. i experiance this first hand as im not a great looking guy and my friend is gorgous and i notice girls just flock to him and i have to work 3x times as hard to get girls. he always tells me he's the michael jordon of picking up girls and im the bj armstrong
 
plornive said:


It seems like women are less *excited* about men they have committed relationships with. Once committment is attained, he is no longer exciting to her. You don't really need power, prestige or even looks to get laid with awesome women. But if you want a relationship, you need them... and then she will always have the desire to "cheat" on you with more mysterious, unattached men. Basically, in order to be desired, you need to show that you just don't care. That involves *not* getting attached, ever. If you get attached, you are just a provider and don't excite her anymore. That's why I always say that monogamy and "love" are actually lies.
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That is one of the wisest paragraphs I have seen on here...You must either be or have been married like myself.I have seen this occur all around me as well.I will never marry again after this one,lol.
 
Beauty is only skin deep, but ugliness goes clear to the bone. J/k

I have a friend that says that everything a man does is for women and vice versa. For the most part, I think that's true. I am fucked because the things that women seem to care about, I do not possess. Even when I had very good looks I was not a chic magnate. I have always been reserved in public, I do not trust people, I have social anxiety, I am very down to earth. These qualities do not make for being very popular with the women. Ever see those ads for jobs where it says you must be a people person, that just makes me want to throw up. That says it all.
 
I have a similiar situation biteme, but I can be pretty charming when I want, its just often smalltalk and shit tires me out....I dont like it.
 
Frackal said:
I have a similiar situation biteme, but I can be pretty charming when I want, its just often smalltalk and shit tires me out....I dont like it.
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What I still don't get is feminine logic.

I swear is still evades me..........

Fonz
 
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