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Is This too much working out?

jmt24

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I just started a tbol and test e cycle and i want to know if I'm workin out too much. This is my current schedule.

monday-Chest and tricep burnout
 
sorry, accidentally posted. heres the rest

monday-chest plus tri burnout 25 min cardio
tues-back plus bi burnout 25 min cardio
wed-legs plus 25 min cardio
thurs-shoulders and lats 25 min cardio
 
shit, it keeps posting it accidentally.
Fri-arms and 25 cardio
sat-legs

sorry bout the 3 posts guys.
 
My schedule is very similiar..........You just have to listen to your body. If you aren't making size and strength gains then your are probably overtraining. But with the proper diet and rest you should be fine.
 
the only person who can answer whut works best for your body is u...if ur feeling fatigued it means u need to cut back on lifting or ups the cals...more is not always better...intensity is the key
 
stats are 6'1", 215 lbs, ~20%bf (just guessing), and 24 yrs old. goals are to get shredded while added lean muscle mass. Thanks for the advice guys. I may rest on wed and just do legs once a week on sat.
 
Sounds like you should have waited on using aas until you got your bodyfat lower. I will not run a cycle with a bodyfat % over 10% but that's just me.
 
hey bro
its not the amount of times you go to the gym nor the amount of time your there that indicates a goodworkout or schedule....i made great gains, myself, going 3 times a week and going 3 at most 4 exercises all based around the core 3 exercises with low rep 5 max....its all about what you do while your in there, dont socialize put the headphones in your ears and no one will bother you hit it hard and get out.....
 
boops said:
hey bro
its not the amount of times you go to the gym nor the amount of time your there that indicates a goodworkout or schedule....i made great gains, myself, going 3 times a week and going 3 at most 4 exercises all based around the core 3 exercises with low rep 5 max....its all about what you do while your in there, dont socialize put the headphones in your ears and no one will bother you hit it hard and get out.....

I agree, although I am at the gym 5 days a week, I am rarely there more than 45min. to an hour.
 
I am going to give my opinion and you can take it for what it's worth. I am going to guess that you are not training with enough intensity. If you were you wouldn't be able to do 25 min of cardio after legs. On leg day your ass should be dragging at the end. Also I think hitting legs 2x in such close succession MAY be a mistake (maybe not but probably), same with back. Hit it hard and don't let anybody in the gym work out with more intensity and focus than you do. That should be your goal and it's something you can control. I like
monday - chest in the evening (with cardio in the AM)
tues - back and abs
wed - legs
Thurs - Shoulders and abs (cardio in the AM)
Fri - arms
sat & sun off
I aslo agree you should have waited on the gear. 20% is just too high. Wait till you get to 10-12% then sauce up.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
I am going to give my opinion and you can take it for what it's worth. I am going to guess that you are not training with enough intensity. If you were you wouldn't be able to do 25 min of cardio after legs. On leg day your ass should be dragging at the end. Also I think hitting legs 2x in such close succession MAY be a mistake (maybe not but probably), same with back. Hit it hard and don't let anybody in the gym work out with more intensity and focus than you do. That should be your goal and it's something you can control. I like
monday - chest in the evening (with cardio in the AM)
tues - back and abs
wed - legs
Thurs - Shoulders and abs (cardio in the AM)
Fri - arms
sat & sun off
I aslo agree you should have waited on the gear. 20% is just too high. Wait till you get to 10-12% then sauce up.

I agree. I don't think you are over training I think you are under training. To really check yourself for over training you need a baseline. Stop training for about three to five days. Take your blood pressure when you wake up everyday. If it is about the same every day you are not training then that's your base line. Go back to training and continue taking your blood pressure when you wake up. And I mean right when you wake up. If it goes up at some point that's a good indicator that you are over training and need a break. But from what I see I doubt that you are over training.
 
What i meant by a burnout is that after I'm done with chest and back, I usually can't do a full tri and bi workout at my usual weights so i do about 4-6 sets at around 10 reps. I found a body fat calculator online and it estimated i was at 13% which is way under what i thought. I've never been tested for BF so it was just a guess. I also have a slight knee problem so I can't workout my legs at full tilt which is why I'm able to do cardio afterwards and legs twice a week. As far as intensity goes, I def have enough in the gym. I never socialize, just hit the weights hard. For instance, i couldnt even do 1 pushup after my chest workout today.
 
jmt24 said:
I just started a tbol and test e cycle and i want to know if I'm workin out too much. This is my current schedule.

monday-Chest and tricep burnout



depends on many things. stats, diet, goals, experience etc..
 
jmt24 said:
What i meant by a burnout is that after I'm done with chest and back, I usually can't do a full tri and bi workout at my usual weights so i do about 4-6 sets at around 10 reps. I found a body fat calculator online and it estimated i was at 13% which is way under what i thought. I've never been tested for BF so it was just a guess. I also have a slight knee problem so I can't workout my legs at full tilt which is why I'm able to do cardio afterwards and legs twice a week. As far as intensity goes, I def have enough in the gym. I never socialize, just hit the weights hard. For instance, i couldnt even do 1 pushup after my chest workout today.


hey bro
what kind of knee problem cuz i had ACL reconstruct and was still back squatting a couple months post surgery...not the same weights but as long as its closed chain exercises it was ok with my brace (which i still use for squatting only).....you NEED to hit the legs, if you can do cardio you should be able to do some type of leg workout......
 
jmt24 said:
What i meant by a burnout is that after I'm done with chest and back, I usually can't do a full tri and bi workout at my usual weights so i do about 4-6 sets at around 10 reps. I found a body fat calculator online and it estimated i was at 13% which is way under what i thought. I've never been tested for BF so it was just a guess. I also have a slight knee problem so I can't workout my legs at full tilt which is why I'm able to do cardio afterwards and legs twice a week. As far as intensity goes, I def have enough in the gym. I never socialize, just hit the weights hard. For instance, i couldnt even do 1 pushup after my chest workout today.

The first time I went to LA, I showed my workout to a bb fron South Africa in the old Golds. I could work out like a mad man ... but I was thin and never grew.

He laughed. "Nobody does this much...not even Arnold."

He took my workout and dropped everything down to 3 sets of 6 ... 3 or 2 exercises per body part. Every exercise was a basic. Made it a 3 day split. I was to be done and out of the gym in 45 minutes or less. No aerobics. I was to go get a tan at the beach ... nap. And eat!

Within 10 days I was gaining weight and growing.
 
i just wanna go off on a tangent here...

does anyone else work their back and their lats seperately? if you do, how does it go for you?

seems strange to me, but i could be wrong.
 
I swam competitively for 11 years and my ligaments and joints kinda got messed up. i can hyperextend my knees at any time. so when i used to squat on the upward motion my knees would be hyperextended and it would put a lot of pressure on my knees. I'll try using knee braces for squats and presses. hopefully that will help. i also have some clicking but it really depends on the day. i also get some light pain below my kneecap. again, every day its hit or miss.
 
jmt24 said:
I swam competitively for 11 years and my ligaments and joints kinda got messed up. i can hyperextend my knees at any time. so when i used to squat on the upward motion my knees would be hyperextended and it would put a lot of pressure on my knees. I'll try using knee braces for squats and presses. hopefully that will help. i also have some clicking but it really depends on the day. i also get some light pain below my kneecap. again, every day its hit or miss.


ehhh pain is just something ya get used to in this game....happens to us all over time....check out the braces bro it saved my squatting when i thought i wouldnt be able to do it again for some time....
 
yeah, nagging pain is just part of the price you pay, This is not a healthy sport, it's a vanity sport. Better to look good and hurt than look weak and feel great. As for BF %, the measurment system is not accurate. Basically if you have very well defined abs you're at 10% if you have visable abs (without flexing) you're at about 13% if wou can almost see them popping out but not quite see the definition you're at about 15%. BF% is only accurate with under water weighing. Bro, my advice is fuck the clicking sound in your knees and forget about all that bullshit with hyper extending and fucking squat. You will not grow without squating period (IMO). Show me someone that doesn't squat and I'll show you 9 times out of 10 somebody that says they can't because of bad knees. The real reason people don't squat is the same reason I hate squating. It hurts like hell and makes you feel like you're going to puke. But you gotta do it bro, fight through the pain and I'll bet your knee joints tighten up and I can guarantee you'll grow.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
yeah, nagging pain is just part of the price you pay, This is not a healthy sport, it's a vanity sport. Better to look good and hurt than look weak and feel great. As for BF %, the measurment system is not accurate. Basically if you have very well defined abs you're at 10% if you have visable abs (without flexing) you're at about 13% if wou can almost see them popping out but not quite see the definition you're at about 15%. BF% is only accurate with under water weighing. Bro, my advice is fuck the clicking sound in your knees and forget about all that bullshit with hyper extending and fucking squat. You will not grow without squating period (IMO). Show me someone that doesn't squat and I'll show you 9 times out of 10 somebody that says they can't because of bad knees. The real reason people don't squat is the same reason I hate squating. It hurts like hell and makes you feel like you're going to puke. But you gotta do it bro, fight through the pain and I'll bet your knee joints tighten up and I can guarantee you'll grow.


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