Is This Normal??????

[JAYMAN014]

JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK I'M JUST FINISHING A 8 WEEK DECA 300/WEEK AND READ ALL THESE STORIES ABOUT DECA DICK, I'M NOT GETTING THIS AT ALL IN FACT SEEM TO BE HARD MORE OFTEN, ALSO NORMALLY HAVE ACME AND SINCE CYCLE START NO ACME. COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT MY TEST LEVALS ARE NATURALLY TO HIGH. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE HCG AND CLOMID I'M GOING TO START TAKING BRINGING TEST LEVALS EVAN HIGHER, BUT DON'T WANT TO LOSE THESE GAINS THAT I WORKED SO HARD FOR. THANKS JAY

 

[freakazoid]

JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK I'M JUST FINISHING A 8 WEEK DECA 300/WEEK AND READ ALL THESE STORIES ABOUT DECA DICK, I'M NOT GETTING THIS AT ALL IN FACT SEEM TO BE HARD MORE OFTEN, ALSO NORMALLY HAVE ACME AND SINCE CYCLE START NO ACME. COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT MY TEST LEVALS ARE NATURALLY TO HIGH. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE HCG AND CLOMID I'M GOING TO START TAKING BRINGING TEST LEVALS EVAN HIGHER, BUT DON'T WANT TO LOSE THESE GAINS THAT I WORKED SO HARD FOR. THANKS JAY

300 mg a week is a fairly low dose of deca,not every one gets deca dick . since deca is one of the most coppied drug out there it is possible you have fake.also clomid and hcg will not raise your test levels higher than normal.it will only help kick your natural test back in,and why would you worry about your natural test levels being higher? is that not what you want?

 

[babbabuee]

Is ACME a generic form of Acne?

 

[Juice Authority]

The real test is how you perform sexually AFTER your cycle.

 

[wetback]

Sounds as if you needed to do a little more research BEFORE starting.

Clomid and HCG to raise tests levels ???????????????

And if you are having NO problems with deca dick why even approach the whole HCG & Clomid issue at all ????

 

[DownUnder23]

The real test is how you perform sexually AFTER your cycle.

my thoughts exactly...........

 

[Scandalous One]

300mg is pretty low so you shouldn't experience deca dick at all so no recovery is needed!!!

 

[lartinos]

bro, you need both Hcg and clomid/nolva if a you keep any gains at all. If you do nothing, plan on being sick for a couple of days. Trust me, if you don't atleast take nolva/clomid 3 weeks after your last shot you are in some shit my friend.

 

[lartinos]

bro, you need both Hcg and clomid/nolva if want to keep any gains at all. If you do nothing, plan on being sick for a couple of days. Trust me, if you don't atleast take nolva/clomid 3 weeks after your last shot you are in some real shit my friend.

 

[Juice Authority]

Sounds as if you needed to do a little more research BEFORE starting.

Clomid and HCG to raise tests levels ???????????????

And if you are having NO problems with deca dick why even approach the whole HCG & Clomid issue at all ????

Before you start telling other people they need to do more research you might want to re-examine yoru statement above. HCG prepares the testis for clomid therapy, which does in fact raise natural test levels after being suppressed. Just because you don't get "deca dick" doesn't mean your htpa wasn't partially supressed from a cycle, especially a deca cycle even at 300mg's a week. Post-cycle therapy is always recommended to speed up the recovery process. Deca shuts down your hpta harder than any other AAS compound other than maybe fina.

 

[Nelson Montana]

True; it's after the cycle when you may run into prooblems.

But there's a lot of misnformation on this thread.

For one thing, clomid will not help since deca is not estrogenic.

HCG can certainly raise test levels higher than normal.

Now, concerning the fact that you haven't gotten deca dick, I can think of 2 possibilities.

One: Some people have low prog and maybe the extra deca prog helped.

And Two: That 300 mgs of Deca was really 150 mgs of cyp.

 

[Juice Authority]

True; it's after the cycle when you may run into prooblems.

But there's a lot of misnformation on this thread.

For one thing, clomid will not help since deca is not estrogenic.

HCG can certainly raise test levels higher than normal.

Now, concerning the fact that you haven't gotten deca dick, I can think of 2 possibilities.

One: Some people have low prog and maybe the extra deca prog helped.

And Two: That 300 mgs of Deca was really 150 mgs of cyp.

Nelson,

Deca dick is not always a given everytime someone goes over 300mg's of deca per week in their cycle. Also, HCG does not raise test levels. It simply helps prevent atrophy and maintains testicular size. HCG DOES NOT promote the natural production of testosterone at all. In fact, if taken too long after the cycle it can and will actually hinder recovery. Deca converts to estrogen so I have no idea what you're talking about there. This however can be prevented by taking it along with proviron and Nolva but you're definitely wrong about Deca not being estrogenic.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I never said HCG will promote natural T production. But it will elevate T levels temporarily.

The e conversion for 300 mgs of deca is comparable to about 50 mgs of testosterone -- hardly anything that requires ancilliary drug therapy.

 

[JAYMAN014]

Guys tahnks for all the help but i have to tell you i'm more confused you guys all had differant ideas. What is it i have to worry about after i have done alot of research and didn't see anything about getting sick after cycle. the plan in 2 weeks after last 300 inject of deca 5000 hcg once a week for two week and than 50mg clomid for two weeks. this seams to be what all the deca sites recommend. I also have been taking anavar 25mg per day for 2 weeks and plan to continue for 2 week after deca cycle.

 

[Juice Authority]

Guys tahnks for all the help but i have to tell you i'm more confused you guys all had differant ideas. What is it i have to worry about after i have done alot of research and didn't see anything about getting sick after cycle. the plan in 2 weeks after last 300 inject of deca 5000 hcg once a week for two week and than 50mg clomid for two weeks. this seams to be what all the deca sites recommend. I also have been taking anavar 25mg per day for 2 weeks and plan to continue for 2 week after deca cycle.

You just started running Anavar towards the end of the cycle? Why? Anavar is suppressive to the hpta and will hinder your recovery. Furthermore, that's a awful lot of HCG to adminsiter at once. I would run it starting the last week of your cycle 3000/3000/1500/1500/1000IU's every 5 days or 500IU's ed for 20 days. The point is to start the HCG during the LAST week of your cycle and into your post cycle prior to clomid therapy. You might also want to run Nolva and clomid. The Nolva I would start now and continue through your post cycle at 20mg's ED and the clomid I would start 2 weeks out from your last shot of Deca. Run the clomid for 21 days - 300mg's Day 1, 100mg's Days 2-11, 50mg's Days 12-21. For someone to suggest the Deca doesn't convert to estrogen shows a clear lack of knowledge of AAS pharmacology.