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Well...it looks like my furnace is done for. It'd been making weird noises, so I looked at it, and the mount for the blower is broken. I called someone to take a look at it, and he's never heard of Mayflower furnaces. He's been trying to get parts since Saturday, and it looks like I'm SOL.

In any case...the furnace is at least 40 years old, so I guess I can't complain.

I'm looking at replacements, and I'm going to get at least 3 or 4 estimates...anyone have any recommendations on brands?
 
TheProject said:
Well...it looks like my furnace is done for. It'd been making weird noises, so I looked at it, and the mount for the blower is broken. I called someone to take a look at it, and he's never heard of Mayflower furnaces. He's been trying to get parts since Saturday, and it looks like I'm SOL.

In any case...the furnace is at least 40 years old, so I guess I can't complain.

I'm looking at replacements, and I'm going to get at least 3 or 4 estimates...anyone have any recommendations on brands?
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I never had a furnace but mine are called heat pumps. I have split units and I had to replace one two years ago and the other one last year.

My upstairs is not as large as downstairs so the one downstairs was larger than the one upstairs.

I have a friend in the heating and air field so he got me my units at his cost and he installed them free. He was able to get units that would adapt to my pre-existing air exchangers inside.

Downstairs unit cost me $400. That was a great price. The upstairs I replaced last year and the prices had gone up. The upstairs cost me $550.00. They were both Janitrol units and they have worked great.

Good luck and if you have any friends in the business, use it to your advantage.
 
I asked about heat pumps, but they're only effective around here down to 35 degrees or so...which would make things really freaking cold here in January and February.

I've been told anywhere from $2-$5K, depending on brand and whether or not I get central air.

Everyone says stay away from Janitrol, JannAir, and Amana...getting mixed reviews on York, and everyone loves Lennox and Trane, but you pay through the nose for 'em.
 
TheProject said:
I asked about heat pumps, but they're only effective around here down to 35 degrees or so...which would make things really freaking cold here in January and February.

I've been told anywhere from $2-$5K, depending on brand and whether or not I get central air.

Everyone says stay away from Janitrol, JannAir, and Amana...getting mixed reviews on York, and everyone loves Lennox and Trane, but you pay through the nose for 'em.
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Lennox and Trane are good. Can't argue with that. Janitrol has been great so far. Lowest heating and air bills I have ever had. This month my bill was $81.00. Of course we are in the fall.

Summer bills run around $105 - $120.00 per month. Winter usually runs about $160-$190 depending on how cold it gets around here. Heat pumps do only work in the south and not good for the north and midwest.

2k-5k......Damn! Glad it isn't me.
 
Lennox is the only way to go. you get what you pay for with furnaces imo. mine is very economical - only 3 yrs old, and i believe they have improved since then
 
Testosterone boy said:
Were you burning your DVD's in +R mode?

www.dvdrhelp.com spells it all out. DVD+R has a lot of compatibility problems.

I made a thread about this, I think you missed it.
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LOL...yeah, I did miss that.

No, I'm doing -R, and it's still not working, but I've been busy with other stuff, so I haven't had a chance to dick with it.
 
Project, we got a good deal through Neil Harris a couple years back. Our furnace went and needed replacement, but their deal was a free A/C unit too. Since our A/C was also original with the house it seemed like a great idea.

They usually have specials going on all the time.
 
You acting like the dad on 'Christmas Story" everytime you hear it clunk and puff smoke? hehehe

We have a Lennox as well! We've had it for three year's now and NEVER had a problem with it. Wait til you get your first gas bill with the new furnace, you'll see a biggg difference in your pocket at winter's end!

Side note...We also had to replace our A/C with the new unit.
 
vixenbabe said:
You acting like the dad on 'Christmas Story" everytime you hear it clunk and puff smoke? hehehe

We have a Lennox as well! We've had it for three year's now and NEVER had a problem with it. Wait til you get your first gas bill with the new furnace, you'll see a biggg difference in your pocket at winter's end!

Side note...We also had to replace our A/C with the new unit.
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LOL...I'm just happy I got it to kick back on last night. I had accidentally blown out the pilot lights, and I couldn't get it to kick back on.

I don't have central air right now, so that's a big plus for me...having A/C would be nice.

My gas bills in the winter are insane...
 
They are making these babies VERY efficient now a days.YOU WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE CENTRAL AIR with those kind of savings!

Also, I forgot to mention- IF your funds allow, GET THE AIR CLEANER option on it! I saw a HUGE difference while cleaning my house( ie: dust factor) It's simple to clean the unit each month as well. No buying those filter's either. Wash the filter unit and you're good to go with their type system!

My hubby and his plumber buddy installed our A/C and heating unit.(BIG BUCKS SAVED) You may want to hire someone..I recall seeing the dishwasher you installed! hehehe
 
vixenbabe said:
They are making these babies VERY efficient now a days.YOU WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE CENTRAL AIR with those kind of savings!

Also, I forgot to mention- IF your funds allow, GET THE AIR CLEANER option on it! I saw a HUGE difference while cleaning my house( ie: dust factor) It's simple to clean the unit each month as well. No buying those filter's either. Wash the filter unit and you're good to go with their type system!

My hubby and his plumber buddy installed our A/C and heating unit.(BIG BUCKS SAVED) You may want to hire someone..I recall seeing the dishwasher you installed! hehehe
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I was wondering about the air cleaner. My house seems to be dusty all the time, and it'd be great to have the level reduced. Any idea what that adds to the cost?

And my dishwasher works just fine, thank you very much! :D

I'm not nearly ballsy enough to install a furnace...I'll leave that t o the pros.
 
TheProject said:


LOL...I'm just happy I got it to kick back on last night. I had accidentally blown out the pilot lights, and I couldn't get it to kick back on.

I don't have central air right now, so that's a big plus for me...having A/C would be nice.

My gas bills in the winter are insane...
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Dude if you can get a central air electric heating system installed do it now! This winter is going to be brutal on gas customers. Her in the Mid atlantic companies have had increases from $17 - $35 per mnth on the avg bill.
 
WODIN said:


Dude if you can get a central air electric heating system installed do it now! This winter is going to be brutal on gas customers. Her in the Mid atlantic companies have had increases from $17 - $35 per mnth on the avg bill.
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I'm on level pay with my gas company, and my bill is $275 a month.

A few years ago when rates spiked, if I hadn't had level pay, I'd have had a $1000 gas bill one month.
 
TheProject said:


You can do that on a 40 year old furnace?
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sure, you premium might be a little higher b/c of the older major appliances like your furnace or air conditioner, but it's worth it. my house is almost 20 years old with the original stuff in it, which could go at any time. all you have to pay for it the deductable, which is either $25 or $50 depending on who you go with. if they have to replace something, all you pay is the deductable. if they just fix it, the same applies.
 
HOLY COW! How can you be paying $275 on level pay? We don't. Put on a sweater or something. Or insulate your attic next spring. I'd stick with gas. Historically, it's cheaper.

Many of the new furnaces have HEPA ratings (as do the new filters).

If you don't have a timed thermostat, they're inexpensive and a good investment.

Also had the company install 2 more vents and another cold air return in our basement area. This has helped tons because we no longer need to run the furnace as long to warm up the downstairs. If you have extra cold rooms like that, this might be a way to go.

BTW When was the last time you had your CO levels checked on that furnace. 40 years old is kind of scary.

There. Domestic enough for ya? :D
 
TheProject said:
I was wondering about the air cleaner. My house seems to be dusty all the time, and it'd be great to have the level reduced. Any idea what that adds to the cost?

And my dishwasher works just fine, thank you very much! :D

I'm not nearly ballsy enough to install a furnace...I'll leave that t o the pros.
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You're lucky I'm so anal about household repairs info. and reciepts. I pulled the bill from my files: $375.00- THREE year's ago.

Wellllllll worth the money, D ! I only wish I would have had him purchase the humidifier for the unit too. I may have him add it this year cuz I hate the dry air in the winter! I have prolly six humidifiers running all winter long!I wish I had thought of it when we did the project back then! It's something for you to think about NOW since you'll be diving into this with both feet soon!

Hey, if you have a plumber pal, pay him a couple hundred bucks on the side to install it. It's easier than you may think actually.

The gas company will inspect the job! You'll be good to go for the
winter ahead.
 
2Shy said:
HOLY COW! How can you be paying $275 on level pay? We don't. Put on a sweater or something. Or insulate your attic next spring. I'd stick with gas. Historically, it's cheaper.
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Yes, MOM!! Sheesh... :P


2Shy said:

Also had the company install 2 more vents and another cold air return in our basement area. This has helped tons because we no longer need to run the furnace as long to warm up the downstairs. If you have extra cold rooms like that, this might be a way to go.

BTW When was the last time you had your CO levels checked on that furnace. 40 years old is kind of scary.
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What was the cost of running more ductwork for the additional vents? Did they have to tear out walls?

I don't believe there is a cold air return in the basement right now, but there are three on the first floor...don't know what difference that makes.
 
Trane makes a good unit IMO.. We have one in the heat pump variety and you are correct in that HP's are not efficient in Cold regions.

Cow Dung burned in a vented bucket puts off some severe BTU's, and is clean for the environment.
 
vixenbabe said:


You're lucky I'm so anal about household repairs info. and reciepts. I pulled the bill from my files: $375.00- THREE year's ago.

Wellllllll worth the money, D ! I only wish I would have had him purchase the humidifier for the unit too. I may have him add it this year cuz I hate the dry air in the winter! I have prolly six humidifiers running all winter long!I wish I had thought of it when we did the project back then! It's something for you to think about NOW since you'll be diving into this with both feet soon!

Hey, if you have a plumber pal, pay him a couple hundred bucks on the side to install it. It's easier than you may think actually.

The gas company will inspect the job! You'll be good to go for the
winter ahead.
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I think it's worth $375...we'll see what they quote me. The first guy's coming out tomorrow at 2.

One of my coworkers suggested the humidifier, and said it would only add about $150 to the cost...also sounds like a good idea.

I wish I knew a plumber that could do it, but at the same time, I like the idea of having one company do everything, then they're responsible for the labor and the product.

I'm trying to figure out how big my furnace is going to be. The input on my old one is 200,000 BTU's, and you're supposed to multiply that by the efficiency to determine total output...trouble is, I have NO clue how efficient that old beast is.
 
If you go with a high enough efficiency you might SAVE money right away. My elec/gas cpmpany had a rebate program if you purchased an "over 90" efficiency or something like that. I got a 92 and they gave me back $550 (for 2 units) not bad. If I got the lower efficiency one I doubt I would have saved that much in pricing. I also save because of the higher efficiency from now on.

I ran my top floor myself, Actually helped my buddy. I hired a contractor for the first floor. I just use the really expensive filters for the returns. 1250 models.

I`m running baseboard heat now in my basement and first floor and installing a boiler because I`m not happy with the heat I`m getting from the forced air among other reasons. It`s a shame cause it`s only a couple of years old.


The boiler (Weil McClain) I am installing comes with a 10 year warranty if installed by a pro. Maybe there`s something like that you can look for. If it lasts at least 10 years I`m sure you`ll be fine.

I would say a qualified installer is a better bet than trying to get the "best" brand. If they ARE qualified, They will install a good brand that will work for years to come.

I tried going the "best brand" route and you`ll get a thousand different answers.
 
TheProject said:


Yes, MOM!! Sheesh... :P
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LOL Sorry. The mommy in me sneaks out sometimes.

Lessee ... this was a couple years back and I want to say it was $200-$300 more. They cut holes in the drywall but those were covered up by the new vents. Cold air returns the cold air outside. We got a deal since they did this while they were already out installing the new system.

We also had a humidifier installed. Makes a huge difference in the winter--not as much static electricity, moister skin. If you have wood floors the humidity is good for them.

I agree to find a pro and not worry as much about systems. You might check out Consumer Reports to see if they've rated furnaces. We couldn't get the top energy efficient furnace because of the way our ducts were put in or something like that, but it was still lower than the old one. We noticed the difference on our bill right away.
 
TheProject said:
What was wrong with your forced air system?
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The way my particular house is designed, No interior walls and the unit is in the attic. The heat goes out from the registers and goes directly upstairs through the open hallway design. I`m going to fix that with the baseboard heat alon the outside walls(hopefully) The heat will have to pass through the living area.

That`s another good reason for getting a VERY qualified person to do the job. It`s not like we don`t have heat, but it could be better. It`s a complicated process to design and estimate the need for heat/cool of a home.
 
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