Is this cycle safe/wise???

[tarzanusa]

Currently I am doing the classic mass builder 250Sus, 400Deca, 40Dbol, and arimidex .5eod.. I use the appropriate recautions, ALA, cranberry, vitamins, glutamine and a lot (gallon +) of water

I am on week 7 and was planning for running 12 weeks, then 6 weeks off, and then onto a fina, test, winny cycle....

Opinions wanted on this....Instead I am thinking of running my current cycle to 10 weeks and then immediately start fina, at 75 mg eod w test prop 100mg eod and 50mg winny ed for 6 more weeks.

The total time I would be on gear is 16 weeks...

Then I would take 6 to 8 weeks off....Of course I would use the appropriate post gear precautions.

The reason I am thinking this, is because the timing will be perfect for me to be off gear most of the summer (maybe a bridge of some sort).

I would like to hear some ideas on the length of cycle and benefits vs risks.

Thanks,
Peace!

 

[ronald_westside]

what???

please tell me your not still running the d-bol,and if you are stop now! 7 wks of d's is crazy, 12wks is suicide. ive never seen them run more than4-5wks even at 25-30mgs.

 

[rstitan53]

fromw hat i understand your test should always be higher than deca....

 

[Swoleyoley]

fromw hat i understand your test should always be higher than deca....

yes it should

 

[tarzanusa]

I actually didn't start dbol until like week 3..supply problem lol...

But from many people I talk to the eat dbol for brerakfast...even use it off cycle and run it once a day at 25-30mg...as long AS YOU TAKE THE APPROPRIATE LIVER PROTECTION...

and regarding the test higher than deca....Ive seen that too...but so far so good...

What about my total plan going into week 11-16???

 

[tarzanusa]

ANY THOUGHTS?

 

[genarr3]

fromw hat i understand your test should always be higher than deca....

Why?

 

[genarr3]

yes it should

Why?

 

[Swoleyoley]

combat "deca dick"

 

[tarzanusa]

I tell you what...with these amounts my dick is constantly at attention lol

 

[Maxx Out]

Re: what???

please tell me your not still running the d-bol,and if you are stop now! 7 wks of d's is crazy, 12wks is suicide. ive never seen them run more than4-5wks even at 25-30mgs.

lol...please don't make me laugh! OMG, get the ambulance call the medics...lol. Many people on this board, and many pros for that matter, run d-bol at higher doses and much longer than that! Just use the right precautions and learn a bit more before speaking non-sense!

 

[el cubano]

combat "deca dick"

As little as 200mg of test per week will successfully combat deca dick. I'm living proof of that.

Right now I'm on deca and tren with only 200mg per week of T200. Fucked like a rabbit last night.

 

[tarzanusa]

maxx...what do you think about my running fina backed up to my cycle as I mentioned??

1-8wk Dbol/40mg - ED
1-10wk Sust/250mg
1-10wk Deca/400mg
11-16wk fina 75 eod
11-16wk test prop 100mg eod
11-16wk winny 50mg ed

 

[genarr3]

I don't like your plan at all. You're going to be on for 12 weeks, then a 6 week break. Your 6 week break is really a 3 week break. Just because you're not sticking a pin in your body doesn't mean you don't have synthetic testosterone in circulation, you do. With Sustenon you will for 3 weeks after your last injection.

So the break really isn't helping your natural test production which is the system I worry most about.

Your "6 week" actually 3 week break is just about long enough for your natural production to begin again, and then shut down once more.

You're probably better off just doing one long cycle.

 

[HugeWannabe]

I don't like your plan at all. You're going to be on for 12 weeks, then a 6 week break. Your 6 week break is really a 3 week break. Just because you're not sticking a pin in your body doesn't mean you don't have synthetic testosterone in circulation, you do. With Sustenon you will for 3 weeks after your last injection.

So the break really isn't helping your natural test production which is the system I worry most about.

Your "6 week" actually 3 week break is just about long enough for your natural production to begin again, and then shut down once more.

You're probably better off just doing one long cycle.

I agree run 16 weeks and get the most out of it!

 

[tarzanusa]

anybody run a cycle for 16 weeks before?

 

[HugeWannabe]

I have run for 14 with no probs, many people do extremely long cycles, I saw a post yesterday about a 26 week cycle. But bump for first hand experience answers for you

 

[Themachine01]

8 weeks of dbol????

 

[tury]

16 weeks is a good cycle I have only done one cycle that long and it was the best cycle of my life I bulked and then turned it into a cutting cycle, worked great.

 

[genarr3]

Don't misunderstand me, I don't think either is a good idea. But I live on the conservative side of the fence.

 

[Twitched]

That whole test/deca ratio thing is pure crap.


The reason deca gives you deca dick (to my understanding) is because it shuts down natural testosterone production, but, alas, nandrolone doesn't activate AR's in the central nervous system, therefore leaving nothing left TO activate it (hence deca dick).

But if you take a simple 200mg/wk (or less) of test, everything should be fine.

It's not what deca is "doing" to your dick, it is what it isnt doing.