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Is there anything beyond space?
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HumanShell
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Or you know, the "fact" that space is constantly expanding. What the hell is it expanding into?
thesuperstar
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man, didnt you see "men in black", at the end, there were two aliens playing marbles, one of the marbles was earth.
that should answer all your questions.
that should answer all your questions.
Lao Tzu
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actually they were galaxies.
i have no idea. i guess we'll have to wait for science to figure it out.
i assume its just nothingness beyond nothingness beyond the borders. so the entire universe, technically, doesn't exist as there is no 2nd object to compare it to. it is smaller than the head of a pin, larger than infinity, etc.
i have no idea. i guess we'll have to wait for science to figure it out.
i assume its just nothingness beyond nothingness beyond the borders. so the entire universe, technically, doesn't exist as there is no 2nd object to compare it to. it is smaller than the head of a pin, larger than infinity, etc.
You can't look at it as just space, it is "Time-Space" which is something really different than just space. You have time thrown in there for one thing and it just keeps on going...tic-toc. However to answer your question yes there is and "Edge" or "end" however you do or don't want to look at it. It's Called Millaways..It's THE RESTAURANT AT THE END OF THE UNIVERSE! There's also BIG BOB's BIG BANG CAFE if you want to catch something after the end of the universe.
talonracer
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HumanShell said:
uh.....more space??
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Warik
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I believe that space is infinite and not expanding. When we talk about the universe, that is, planets, stars, galaxies, etc, however, I believe that is expanding.
Galaxies are moving farther and farther apart, thus "expanding" the universe. What is the universe expanding into? The infinite empty space.
I don't see how it could make sense otherwise.
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Galaxies are moving farther and farther apart, thus "expanding" the universe. What is the universe expanding into? The infinite empty space.
I don't see how it could make sense otherwise.
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Warik
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danielson said:
But doesn't the universe = everything?
I do not believe anything exists outside of the universe with the exception of God or the mind - I haven't decided which is in fact the entity that exists outside of the universe yet. =)
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MuSuLPhReAk
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Funny...I had asked my astronomy teacher the exact same question and the answer was, "U would only be able to understand with complex physics formula's". Got into computers instead so I never found out 
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Warik
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MuSuLPhReAk said:
In other words... "U would only be able to understand with complex physics formulas that I don't know and I don't want to look like a dumb shit trying to explain."
hehe
-Warik
Bodhidogma
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if the universe is infinitley big, then is must also be infinitley small, yes?
therefore, wouldnt that mean that atoms are NOT the smallest particles of matter and all science based on this is not exactly correct?
dont mind me. i am high as a kite.
therefore, wouldnt that mean that atoms are NOT the smallest particles of matter and all science based on this is not exactly correct?
dont mind me. i am high as a kite.
HappyScrappy
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Bodhidogma said:if the universe is infinitley big, then is must also be infinitley small, yes?
therefore, wouldnt that mean that atoms are NOT the smallest particles of matter and all science based on this is not exactly correct?
dont mind me. i am high as a kite.
LOL.
good point - if it had a fixed size, then it would be feasible to say that in comparison to infinite size, it is the same as zero. but since it has a changing, infinitely large size, it fails that possibillity, b/c as large as you want to make it, it can always be larger - but it is non negative, and non-zero - so we have a baseline and then scale up - we just don't know where the "up" part of the scale stops.
Bodhidogma
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HappyScrappy said:
do we just use atoms as the base simply because microscopes wont allow us to see anything smaller, and we do need something to work with? (i dont know this for sure, it is just an ignorant assumption).
Bodhidogma
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danielson said:
what are dude?
HappyScrappy
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Bodhidogma said:
they keep finding new ones.
that is what those expensive particle accelorators usually found in the desert are for.
they speed up sub atomic particles (which at the first level are electrons (neg charge), protons (pos charge), and neutrons (no charge) ) - and smash thm into each other and when they "break apart" they show that they are made up of sub-particles themselves.
they all have funny names, but one of the older ones and the first that comes to mind is the quark.
(and I might be recalling incorrectly - but I thought a new release was... released, saying that they found sub particles of the quark - but perhaps I either misread or misrecall that)
yeah
like HS said, atoms are made up of protons and neutrons
they are made up of quarks (6 different types of quark, but only 2 types in standard matter, 'up' and 'down' i think)
i was alwyas taught they are infact fundemental but i vaguely remember reading somewhere that there where more types
and then their are things that are so small were not even sure if they are matter or they are a wave, light, neutrino's i think fall into this category
i might be wrong, i aint done the physics in a LONG time
like HS said, atoms are made up of protons and neutrons
they are made up of quarks (6 different types of quark, but only 2 types in standard matter, 'up' and 'down' i think)
i was alwyas taught they are infact fundemental but i vaguely remember reading somewhere that there where more types
and then their are things that are so small were not even sure if they are matter or they are a wave, light, neutrino's i think fall into this category
i might be wrong, i aint done the physics in a LONG time
HappyScrappy
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danielson said:
it was long thought that neutrino's had no mass - but it was recently proven that they do... just very little.
HappyScrappy said:
ive always thought of them as a particle
there are some big ass neutrino's (tau) but they only get produced in supersize nuclear rections (special ones
)i know they are damn small though, they've known of their presence since the 30's and been able to detect them since the 90's.....im not sure if they exhibit wave/particle duality i dont think they do, but i might be wrong, that why i listed it i think
i miss high school physics
MasterMind
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Wombat said:
More space
Island Son
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I thing "void" is where "space" hasn't reached yet. Space has background radiation and noise left over from the Big Bang, and occasional particles every 10 to the power something metres, photons of light, etc. Void doesn't (or shouldn't) but since our test platform (the universe) by definition can't include it we have no clue.
Trying to remember Asimov from a loooong time ago...
Trying to remember Asimov from a loooong time ago...
This is way out there but isn't it possible that we are a living organism that is so tiny that 10 billion of us could fit on a pin. And that we are just a living organism that lives inside of another much larger organism. Much like the billions of things living in our bodies. What lives inside of the billions of things in our bodies and so on. Couldn't we the universe just be a droplet of say blood in a much larger living organism. Think about how nature as we call it works. She is always breaking down something and rebuilding it. And adapting. Just like bacteria in our bodies. Always dying off and regrowing. We could just be a bacteria in something so much larger then us that we can not comprehend it. No?
HappyScrappy
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Wombat said:
its talk like that that's gonna piss off the religious people.
humans want to feel like they have a purpose and are at the top of the pyramid.
but I like the way you think so far...
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Citruscide
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I've often wondered about the dynamics of a Black Hole... and no, I ain't talking about the one in your butt... rather, the huge hurricane looking things that can suck light through them... Kinda like the sluts I know.
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HappyScrappy said:
Lets say that my thinking was close to what we really are. That does not mean that there still is not a purpose for us. All living things could be tied into together and it just could be that we are all the smallest things in life and the largest at the same time.
Island Son
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Or fungi growing in Lisa Simpsons bowl. In the end, does it change how much you lift, or how you relate to other people?
http://boards.elitefitness.com before it forwards to the forums shows "Cyclops: The leader of the X-Men" in the title bar
http://boards.elitefitness.com before it forwards to the forums shows "Cyclops: The leader of the X-Men" in the title bar
KINGKONG69
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dont forget about paralell universes, and dimensions. like aliens could be standing all around us studyin us right now, or what ever, but with our limited sences, we dont sence them.
ive also thought about what Wombat has said. but, with size, i dont think it can really be measured, whats small and what big that is. is there a limit to how small a portion of space can be, or how large. umm, i cant explain what im tryin to say. so ill stop now.
ive also thought about what Wombat has said. but, with size, i dont think it can really be measured, whats small and what big that is. is there a limit to how small a portion of space can be, or how large. umm, i cant explain what im tryin to say. so ill stop now.
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Unless time is finite, space must be infinite.
A neutrino is not an atmomic particle.
There are several classes of quarks, some have more or less mass than others. But the boys at CERN have found sub-quark material.
My disclaimer here is that I learned all of this back in 1993. So for all I know they're presently crashing pokemon characters together and finding subsubsubsub-quark material in Charazarde's ass.
A neutrino is not an atmomic particle.
There are several classes of quarks, some have more or less mass than others. But the boys at CERN have found sub-quark material.
My disclaimer here is that I learned all of this back in 1993. So for all I know they're presently crashing pokemon characters together and finding subsubsubsub-quark material in Charazarde's ass.
HappyScrappy
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KINGKONG69 said:
that always makes whacking off more enjoyable - when you think you have one of them alien audiences
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Warik
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Wombat said:
Think of the planet Earth as a pin and the Milky Way as a pincushion.
It's certainly possible.
-Warik
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Wombat said:
Shrebly.
space: the distance between 2 bodys
as simple as that!!!!!!
so to talk about space you have to talk about matter and time invariably.
an example: the distance between earth and the sun is space (call it void if ya want) if we put away both of them the "space" no longer exist.
so all space is the distance between celestial bodys.
as simple as that!!!!!!
so to talk about space you have to talk about matter and time invariably.
an example: the distance between earth and the sun is space (call it void if ya want) if we put away both of them the "space" no longer exist.
so all space is the distance between celestial bodys.
and that bring us to the relativity theory... which all of us understand very well, or at least should.
also, science has an hypotesis(sp) about galaxies and atom-molecule structure relation where it says that to an extend the atom-molecule behaviour could be very well explained with the universe gallaxies interactions, with the risky supousing that atom are real gallaxies.
also, science has an hypotesis(sp) about galaxies and atom-molecule structure relation where it says that to an extend the atom-molecule behaviour could be very well explained with the universe gallaxies interactions, with the risky supousing that atom are real gallaxies.
