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Is pro bodybuilding doomed?

Is bodybuilding sacrificing popularity for freakiness?

  • Yes! I love FREAKY mass! F*#k the mainstream!

    Votes: 5 15.2%
  • Yes. Mass has breen overemphasized at thre expense of other qualities.

    Votes: 24 72.7%
  • No, I want to see the pros get even bigger and freakier.

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • No. Bodybuilding is NOT losing its mainstream appeal.

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Total voters
    33

Ercole

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In the recent Ronnie Coleman thread, the idea came up that bodybuilding's focus in recent years on "freaky" mass at the expense of other qualities (like symettry, proportion, and -- why be afraid to say it? -- beauty) has yanked bodybuilding out of the mainstream and is turning it back into a back-alley, lunatic fringe activity.

A poster pointed out that ESPN almost never airs a bodybuilding show these days, where they used to do it regularly ten or fifteen years ago. Sales figures for bodybuilding mags have declined from their highpoints in the '80s.

I think it's true that judging criteria (and hardcore fan response to "freaky" mass) have steered competitors towards an extreme look that's clearly more about huge intake of pharmaceuticals than about health or training.

In the '80s your average guy could look at top bodybuilders like Rich Gaspari or Bob Paris, and think: "That's how I want to look." But today, how many "average guys" aspire to looking like Coleman or Cutler? Not many, I suspect.

Women's bodybuilding was nearly killed off by escalating mass and AS use which made the top ladies look increasingly like weird mutants of undetermined sex.

Mag publishers acted aggressively in this case, turning their back on "hardcore" female bodybuilding in favor of "fitness" contests where the contestants are strong and toned but still look like women. Hardcore (i.e. seriously jacked) women competitors were outraged, but the mags are not budging an inch. They want the hermaphrodites outta there and are clearly trying to return to the more refined ideal of female muscularity represented in the 80s by Rachel McLish and Carla Dunlap.

New tiers of shows like Musclemania seem to doing the same thing for male bodybuilding. Smaller (though still hardly "natural") guys like Markus Reinhardt and Tito Raymond present physiques that are large and developed, but not crazily exagerrated, like the top IFBB pros. These are guys your average Joe can actually relate to.

What direction do you think male bodybuilding should go? Keep going for "bigger is better" or award prizes for other qualities besides sheer bulk? Does it bother you that the sport is losing its mainstream appeal? Or do you like the fact that bodybuilding is aiming to please its most fanatical supporters rather than the mainstream public?
 
I should be a fan but I'm not. I lift, take gear myself and yet I find the top of the food chain BBer's unappealing, to the point looking at them makes me alittle sick. Those GH guts are disgusting and look seriously unhealthy. I find no pleasure in looking at these men that to me, look like they are sacrificing their health to look *good* on stage.
 
No I like to see the freaks its kind of like going to the circus. But on the other hand I don't want to look like a pro but respect what they do. The only to pro bb's today that I think have asthetic bodies are Flex Wheeler and Dexter Jackson.
 
In my opinion its gone way too far . the way i see it the perfect body builder wouyld have to be arnold at the 1974 mr.o . He was freakin HUGE but still perfect symetry. If you have seen these bodybuilders you know how poor there health actually is. They run out of breath just bending over to pick up a pen.


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yeah is a freak show now,,and also, only a small group of ppl will think your "cool", but to the rest of the world your a freak
 
When I was a kid I thought that one day I would like to be a pro.
Now I just feel sorry for those guys, having to take insane ammounts of shit just to keep up with everyone else.....No thanks. I think it is way out of control.
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RageControl In my opinion its gone way too far . the way i see it the perfect body builder wouyld have to be arnold at the 1974 mr.o . He was freakin HUGE but still perfect symetry. If you have seen these bodybuilders you know how poor there health actually is. They run out of breath just bending over to pick up a pen.

dont make me laugh, arnold symmetrical? no way, he is horribly unsymmetrical. i think are you are confusing asthetics with symmetry. he looked awesome, and it is like looking at art when you look at him. arnolds legs were way too small for the rest of him. in contest shape he had 23 inch arms and almost 29 inch legs. i dont call that symmety. just my opinion.
 
Yep, it's me in the avatar. You look terrific, dude! A couple more pix of me over on the Pictures Of Our Members board -- that name cracks me up because it sounds as if we're all supposed to post pictures of *our* members.;)
 
I'm definitely an admirer of the sheer size of these guys, but I don't know if I'd want to look like them (if I could). I'm 5'9" and would love to hit a nice lean 230 (10%bf) which I believe is above average. The thing I respect so much about the pros is they do EVERYTHING perfect, training/diet/rest, AND they juice. IMO they have the "perfect" body, too bad not every one is into the sheer size and power in which they hold.
 
womens bb is doomed. as far as the men, people go to see the freaks the bigger the better. if this were not so than natural bb would be very popular, which it is not.
 
What makes it domed is not so much rewarding for freaky mass, but more that the placings, even among similar body types, is crazy and inconsistant.
 
Its rediculous..a standard of lower juice levels and more natural competitions should take place....... i think it would be great if we had several Leauges etc... and also if BB could be looked upon by people as morr mainstream and more popular..... i say big thumbs down to GH and Gh guts.... Ronie coleman and the other pros are rediculous.....but hey...who wouldnt wan to be them..if it wouldnt cost us our health.
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Too much "gear"

Too Much Mass.

Guys the mass is getting out of hand. I'm 30 y/o and I've been into bodybuilding since I was 13 playing football. I started working out more then playing football and realized how much I loved the sport of Bodybuilding. Back in the mid 80's, the top bodybuilders use to look at bodybuilders like Arnold (of course), Frank Zane, Mike Mentzer, and Sergio has their idols. Those guys had "attainable" physiques to the "average Joe". But now, it's not even cool anymore.

When I turned 20 or so, I really thought I wanted to go full force into bodybuilding. At that time (and still) I hadn't tried any AS, but I just loved the Vascular, symetrical physiques of the older pros. When I was told how much "gear" the current guys were taking to look the way they did, I got totally turned off to it. I mean, I wasn't stupid, I knew that juice was a big part of the game, but that much...no way. NOW IT'S EVEN MORE OUTRAGIOUS!!!

Just my opinion, but a muscular athletic look, (with the use of some gear for that extra edge), seems to be ideal to me, and most importantly, the chic's that I talk to seem to like that look more than the mass monsters of today. 6'0, 220 or 230 at about 8 - 10% BF. Thats ideal.

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