Is HGH right for me?

[baker849]

27 years old, 6'1" 212lbs probably 18-20%bf
Lift MWFS cardio 3 times a week min.
I'm not a novice to using gear, but I am to HGH.
I have read and know guys that have head terrific results from using it either in a cycle or as a bridge.My primary goal is to get lean. Not small mind you, just lean. I would like to add on a little muscle mass while I do this, but if its only minimal muscle gains, I can deal with that as long as I can shed the bulk of this bf. My current cycle has given me enough size to content me.
I'm not sure which to use it as...get my gear now and bridge off the sust/deca/winny cycle I'm halfway through, or take a rest so my body can reset and use it as my next cycle this summer. Any remarks would be appreciated on this...
Also, and this may sound stupid, but how many Iu's are in a single 1mg kit? I;m not really sure how that breaks down or how long each will last me? I know 14 weeks is a pretty common duration for a cycle but is it a good one for me?
Do I need longer or shorter? I've been training for four years. My metabolism is shit, I can bulk up very easily, but leaning out or dropping any kind of weight for that matter is very difficult. I would be heavier this cycle but I'm trying to eat very lean and carefully because losing the post cycle fat excess is so hard for me. Does HGH sound like a good option for me and if so, does 4iu per day sound about right?
Much thanks in advance to anyone that can offer any suggestions - 849

 

[kbrkbr]

I'm almost 50, have used gh for several years, and love it.

That said, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone in their 20s. You're already producing a boatload of gh and and exogenous gh you add to the mix just won't have the same effect as it would for an old fart like me.

Can you tolerate stimulants? If so, have you tried clen or t3.

Speaking from personal experience, my favorite gear to get lean is var and fina. Var not only shuts down my appetite, but have been shown to reduce visceral fat. Fina for me is almost magical. I can grow and get hard while eating virtually nothing. Unfortunately, I'm just too old for it these days.

 

[baker849]

Hey thanks Bro,
Nope I've never even thought about going that route actually. But that would probably be loads cheaper than several kits of HGH. So you think I should add the VAR and fina in to extend my current cycle for 6 more weeks or just stock up for a summer cycle and run that combo for an independent cycle?

And I've seen several different dosages for Var, some pyramid, some run a shitload of it (which can get super expensive). Is 40mg ed for 8 weeks a substantial dose for someones first time on Var?



Current cycle - On week 7.
750 Sust@week(10wks)
300 deca@week(10wks)
Nolva/HCG(periodically) throughout.
Have winny for weeks 8-13 @50mg/ed

 

[BIG SMT]

It sounds like our metabolisms were cut from the same mold. Is there a reason you haven't used Clen or t3? How about ECA or ECY have you tried those? I would definitely try some of those before jumping to HGH. HGH is too expensive to run for personal appearance sake. A contest might be a different story.

I would (and do) use Clen, T3, and ECA+Yohimbine HCL(sometimes). Alot of people tried to scare me about T3 usage, all the side effects of hyperthyroidism. But I say it takes alot of T3 just to get our metabolism in the ball park of many of the ectomorph guys on these boards. I have more negative side effects from ECA than 120mcg Clen w/ 100mcg T3. I'm going to increase to 140mcg Clen w/ 120mcg T3 next Cutter. T3 is cheap, if you don't feel comfortable stacking the clen and t3, at least run some t3 (more than 50mcg/day) and ECA.

 

[baker849]

I actually have an ass load of clen stocked up.
No T3 but I could get ahold of some.
Where do you get ECA stacks at? or do you just make your own?
And what kind of dosage and form of the yohimbe stuff works for ya?
I agree, HGH is super expensive, but I really can't put a price on leaning out!
The only reason I havent been on any of the clen or phentermine I have is just the feeling of not being on them. I took a break from all the stimulants for a bit and just felt so much better I havent had the gumption to get back on them. But in truth, no pain no gain, or loss for that matter, right?
So maybe I can just tack those cutters onto this cycle and see where that takes me before I make any more gear decisions. Much thanks bro -

Plus out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about the benefits of burning fat through saunas? I know a lot is water weight but I've heard that you burn 3x more calories in 30 min in a sauna that a 30 min cardio session?

 

[BIG SMT]

Yeah, I would tack on some cutting aids for the rest of this cycle and see how you like it. If you can get a hold of some T3 give it a short burst for 3-4 wks (pyramiding up and down of course), and see how your body reacts. Hell, if your like me your metabolism sucks and any extra advantage is a godsend.

The Yohimbine HCL that I have right now is in 2.5 mg tabs, and I have used 7.5 mg/ECA dose with good results. I am thinking of bumping it to 10mg/ECA dose, but it can give you wicked headaches if you over do it. I found a good deal on some 5.4mg tabs at the link below:
http://www.drugstore.com/pharmacy/prices/drugprice.asp?ndc=00185099801&trx=1Z5006
It is OTC, and you can find it elsewhere, but make sure it is Yohimbine HCL and not just old yohimbe. I know what you mean about the way the stimulants make you feel, I am a total prick when I'm them. Thats why I go all out, get the job done, and get back off of them. Do you have idea of how much you want to lose, and by when?

 

[kbrkbr]

Hey thanks Bro,
Nope I've never even thought about going that route actually. But that would probably be loads cheaper than several kits of HGH. So you think I should add the VAR and fina in to extend my current cycle for 6 more weeks or just stock up for a summer cycle and run that combo for an independent cycle?

And I've seen several different dosages for Var, some pyramid, some run a shitload of it (which can get super expensive). Is 40mg ed for 8 weeks a substantial dose for someones first time on Var?



Current cycle - On week 7.
750 Sust@week(10wks)
300 deca@week(10wks)
Nolva/HCG(periodically) throughout.
Have winny for weeks 8-13 @50mg/ed

The only problem I have with your current cycle is that you still have to eat big in order for test and deca to do its work, and that's gonna make it difficutl for you to slim down unless you're super-disciplined with your diet. I'm not, so that's why fina and var work so well for me when I'm cutting.

BTW, var doesn't have to be expensive if you buy powder. 40mg ED is fine for a first time out.