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Is EQ really worth it?

bonacris

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Some guys love it, some don't rate it. What are your opinions on EQ? I was going to run it in an upcoming cycle and I just want to get the views of this board.
 
IMO no, it's a shit drug. There are so many better options then eq no matter your goal. I'm not a fan of any drug that takes 6-800 mg to get any real results and has to be ran 4+ months to really show through. I've taken high doses of tren and decca etc but I can still make gains off of 2-300 mg. That isn't the case with eq. Better using your money on something worth while.

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I'm interested in the responses to this thread as well. I am seriously considering putting this on my next cycle as well. Some guys at my gym look insane after using it - they look hard as fuck, like brick walls. But as the second poster said, needs a 12 week minimum cycle and patience is necessary.

Interested to hear experienced opinion though.
 
It depends on your goals tbh. I've used eq for the cardio boost due the increased RBC count.

It's good for vascularity. It's also good if your trying to not be so obvious about juicing as the gains come at a slow and steady pace.

As others said though patience is required as you don't start seeing results usually till week 5-6.

Always run test with eq or you will feel extremely lethargic !
 
its not a good choice if you are looking for very wet gains or if you are looking for fast gains.

it also won't help you set PR's like other AAS will.

however for someone who likes running a gentle AAS with very little PIP and that will give you an endurance boost its a good choice. I would definitely TRY IT and judge for yourself!! its the poor mans primo crossed with deca in my view to sum it up
 
Results are slow, and imo not very impressive.

NPP is my personal favourite for bulking.

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I used less than 600mgs and really enjoyed my cycle. It was pretty much side effect free.

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i had used it at 600mg in my last cycle for 16 weeks...
no side effects, gains is really slow, vascularity is showing and cardio endurance is very good...never seem to get tired or out of breathe.
so depend on what you wants...want fast gains then definitely not eq...
 
I've tried several ug labs an yeah it takes 800mgs plus and I've also got it from our vet for my horses lol an 400mgs was unreal in strength an stamina
 
If is stamina I want I'll run GW for a fraction of the cost. I dont think I'll bother with EQ. For the price of it for a 16 week cycle at 600mg I could pay for a whole cycle of test npp dbol and gw.

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For slow sustainable gains with unreal vascularity and deep cuts EQ is the shit.

Saying EQ is worthless is like saying a Cadillac is worthless because it doesn't run a 10 second quarter mile.
 
The one side effect with eq you have to watch is rbc but if your donating blood with it then it is under control... I have said this time and time again that I feel eq is the most underrated steroid out there... I can't say enough about it... I don't know that I'll ever run another cycle without it...
 
have ran it many times, even at 900mg a week it has disappointed me...IMO it just takes up valuable space in a syringe barrel.
 
damn guys i'm surprised to hear all the negativity with EQ.

but I see how it will disappoint if you get used to using something like tren.

I ran EQ alone last year and it was a solid run, like I said before I didn't break PR's but I did have fun on it but the #1 advantage is I had absolutely ZERO sides
 
Its a nice addition to any long cycle. I ran it alone a long time ago at 400mg for 12 weeks and gained about 7 solid lbs with good strength gains. Its not going to hit hard but its a solid anabolic.
 
but I see how it will disappoint if you get used to using something like tren.

Exactly. Dont get me wrong, I really like eq and how mild it is. It's my kind of steroid. But I've seen way better gains and less sides on 1/2 the dose of tren E.
 
I won't run a cycle without it but it's just like anything else... How does YOUR body react to different stimulus and what are YOUR goals? Both of those have to coincide for something to be considered effective for each person... Variables always need to be considered before generalized answers are given


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It has to be my favorite compound to run. I love having a lot of strength and still being able to bang out 100 to 200 push-ups depending upon how good I feel that day. EQ gave me that feeling. I made some crazy gains in strength while running it and made some crazy and significant endurance gains as well. Also, the potential to maintain the gains you make on EQ in every category are significant. If bridged with GW at the end of a cycle that is the ultimate as far as IM concerned, because you will maintain all your endurance and the GW will prevent muscle wasting.
 
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It has to be my favorite compound to run. I love having a lot of strength and still being able to bang out 100 to 200 push-ups depending upon how good I feel that day. EQ gave me that feeling. I made some crazy gains in strength while running it and made some crazy and significant endurance gains as well. Also, the potential to maintain the games you make on EQ in every category are significant. If bridged with GW at the end of a cycle that is the ultimate as far as IM concerned, because you will maintain all your and Dorance and the GW will prevent muscle wasting.


Very we'll said and I completely agree


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Running Test and Deca? Add EQ

Running Test and Tren? Add EQ

Just running? Add EQ.

Right now I am running 800mg a week of EQ.. Pretty soon my cephalic vein is going to explode from bicep girls. The added vascularity is insane. Can't wait to bump it to a gram.
 
Running Test and Deca? Add EQ

Running Test and Tren? Add EQ

Just running? Add EQ.

Right now I am running 800mg a week of EQ.. Pretty soon my cephalic vein is going to explode from bicep girls. The added vascularity is insane. Can't wait to bump it to a gram.

I will never run Deca again. Dylan put it best when he implied that different compounds work for different folks.

Do me a huge favor and let us know how you like the gram. My guy has 1 gram per mL vials now.
 
I will never run Deca again. Dylan put it best when he implied that different compounds work for different folks.

Do me a huge favor and let us know how you like the gram. My guy has 1 gram per mL vials now.

That must be like motor oil. I have only seen 300mg per ml

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I will never run Deca again. Dylan put it best when he implied that different compounds work for different folks.

Do me a huge favor and let us know how you like the gram. My guy has 1 gram per mL vials now.

I dunno what the molecular weight of EQ is but that shit has got to be brewed in straight Ethyl Oleate to stay in suspension at that mg/ml???
 
I have only run it once ... due to affordability ... but I would LOVE to run it again some time soon.
 
I swear the RBC count gives you a 5 month high once EQ kicks in. I'd never come off if I could get away with it.
 
I swear the RBC count gives you a 5 month high once EQ kicks in. I'd never come off if I could get away with it.


that makes two of us... eq, primo and gw together is one of these stacks I just never want to come off of... I am not sure i will ever run another cycle without all three of these involved...
 
primo and EQ are the two most underrated AAS and I don't understand it.. well actually I do understand it.. everyone wants FAST and QUICK overnight gains, we live in an ADD society.. we are the 9th of the month and already the gym parking lot is getting less and less cars. heaven forbid it takes more than a week to see results for these fucking people.

why run primo and EQ when you can run dbol and tren and blowup overnight? that's the attitude many people have. for those who have a strong base they will look at primo and EQ and think they are awesome as they put on legit muscle on them, for those who are way below their natural potential they will want dbol or tren and blowup fast and consider that quality gains
 
primo and EQ are the two most underrated AAS and I don't understand it.. well actually I do understand it.. everyone wants FAST and QUICK overnight gains, we live in an ADD society.. we are the 9th of the month and already the gym parking lot is getting less and less cars. heaven forbid it takes more than a week to see results for these fucking people.

why run primo and EQ when you can run dbol and tren and blowup overnight? that's the attitude many people have. for those who have a strong base they will look at primo and EQ and think they are awesome as they put on legit muscle on them, for those who are way below their natural potential they will want dbol or tren and blowup fast and consider that quality gains

I kind of like that these bench-campers are leaving the gym. Male more room for me.
 
that makes two of us... eq, primo and gw together is one of these stacks I just never want to come off of... I am not sure i will ever run another cycle without all three of these involved...

The only thing that keeps me from running primo is the PIP.
 
primo and EQ are the two most underrated AAS and I don't understand it.. well actually I do understand it.. everyone wants FAST and QUICK overnight gains, we live in an ADD society.. we are the 9th of the month and already the gym parking lot is getting less and less cars. heaven forbid it takes more than a week to see results for these fucking people.

why run primo and EQ when you can run dbol and tren and blowup overnight? that's the attitude many people have. for those who have a strong base they will look at primo and EQ and think they are awesome as they put on legit muscle on them, for those who are way below their natural potential they will want dbol or tren and blowup fast and consider that quality gains

This ^^^^^^^
 
Primo is not underrated by any means. You're a bit off on that one my friend. In fact, it is the exact opposite. It is very over rated. And I am not just basing that off my own opinion.. I think the majority feel the same way. Can someone benefit from it? Sure. But the benefit isn't worth the price.. there is no way to justify it.
 
Primo is not underrated by any means. You're a bit off on that one my friend. In fact, it is the exact opposite. It is very over rated. And I am not just basing that off my own opinion.. I think the majority feel the same way. Can someone benefit from it? Sure. But the benefit isn't worth the price.. there is no way to justify it.

then why is it consistently a top seller?
 
then why is it consistently a top seller?

Top seller? Doubt that. Unless you have the numbers to show me..?

It has a cult following, has had one for decades.. just like the original tren hex. Many people swear by.. others no it's not worth it.
 
If Eq was cheap I could see it being a great addition to a cycle but anywhere I've seen it is quite expensive especially considering the lenght of time and amount required it needs to be effective..

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Primo is not underrated by any means. You're a bit off on that one my friend. In fact, it is the exact opposite. It is very over rated. And I am not just basing that off my own opinion.. I think the majority feel the same way. Can someone benefit from it? Sure. But the benefit isn't worth the price.. there is no way to justify it.

I just justified it in my previous post.

if you are insulin sensitive it is the best AAS to use period.

those of you who view tren as a miracle AAS are not insulin sensitive at this time and you should feel blessed for that but that doesn't mean in another 5 years you won't be, keep that in mind

to me its well worth the money to be ahead to get slow and clean gains vs. fast and sloppy tren gains.. again when you are insulin sensitive you want to avoid extremely anabolic compounds because they will backfire on you

I've been able to get my body fat down on primo but it does not budge on tren. while others can eat slop on tren and shred up. so its an individual preference. but no matter who you are you cannot sit here and tell me you find tren improvements easy to keep afterwards. in other words if tren shreds you on cycle once you come off its not much fun anymore.
 
I just justified it in my previous post.

if you are insulin sensitive it is the best AAS to use period.

those of you who view tren as a miracle AAS are not insulin sensitive at this time and you should feel blessed for that but that doesn't mean in another 5 years you won't be, keep that in mind

to me its well worth the money to be ahead to get slow and clean gains vs. fast and sloppy tren gains.. again when you are insulin sensitive you want to avoid extremely anabolic compounds because they will backfire on you

I've been able to get my body fat down on primo but it does not budge on tren. while others can eat slop on tren and shred up. so its an individual preference. but no matter who you are you cannot sit here and tell me you find tren improvements easy to keep afterwards. in other words if tren shreds you on cycle once you come off its not much fun anymore.

Primo is less androgenic AND anabolic than test. and then Primo is twice as anabolic as it is androgenic.. . so it is an anabolic. So you are paying 3 times the money for primo than test and it's not even stronger than it in either aspect.

What about var or winstrol? Those are 4 times as anabolic as Primo. So would those make you put on weight too because you insulin sensitive?

Also, tren gains are not sloppy by any means.

As far as keeping the gains.. the gains you keep from tren are still more than the gains you keep from primo. And a person can makes those gains in 6-8 weeks with tren.. but have to be on primo for 16+ weeks to even touch it.

We could go back in fourth on this all day. Let's just call a truce and decide I am right :)
 
^^^ I'm not looking for 'stronger' when I run gear. I am looking for less sides and QUALITY. price is not a factor for me.. that's why I choose primo and var over tren and dbol

also who are you to tell me what its like living as someone who is insulin sensitive or diabetic when you have no knowledge of what its like? its like you assume everyone out there has your genetics hence if they follow what you do they will also be on stage. it doesn't work like that.. people with your views on running gear looking for fast gains are missing the long term picture, but at your age that is the way your generation thinks.
 
:)

Oh you know you love going back and forth. I know you know what you're doing, so it's all good.

Have a good one man.
 
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Top seller? Doubt that. Unless you have the numbers to show me..?

It has a cult following, has had one for decades.. just like the original tren hex. Many people swear by.. others no it's not worth it.

I have numbers, without divulging anymore than that....

I would say outside of testosterone that primo is a consistently top seller.

Tren Hex doesnt move at all Ive seen...
 
There is certainly different strokes for different folks. I have yet to try Primo, so I can't comment on it. Based on its price point, I'm not sure I will even get around to it unless I come across some that I can't pass up on. For me, test and Tren are my favorite AAS for building muscle. I dont get any sides with test even at high doses, and I always feel incredible on it. Its hard for me to want to run other things when those two are so effective for me
 
that makes two of us... eq, primo and gw together is one of these stacks I just never want to come off of... I am not sure i will ever run another cycle without all three of these involved...

Doesn't that stack wipe out your libido and make you lethargic ? Unless I am missing some test in the mix, or perhaps this stack works without test? Please lemme know Dylan.

On that note, running a 16 week test EQ cycle right now - test doses at TRT levels and EQ at 300 mg per week. Objective is for increased strength and endurance for Iron Man distance triathlon. All I can say is WOW!! Endurance is just crazy, body comp is looking awesome - lean, slow hard muscle gains and vascular. This only 5 weeks in.

EQ seriously impressing me.
 
Doesn't that stack wipe out your libido and make you lethargic ? Unless I am missing some test in the mix, or perhaps this stack works without test? Please lemme know Dylan.

On that note, running a 16 week test EQ cycle right now - test doses at TRT levels and EQ at 300 mg per week. Objective is for increased strength and endurance for Iron Man distance triathlon. All I can say is WOW!! Endurance is just crazy, body comp is looking awesome - lean, slow hard muscle gains and vascular. This only 5 weeks in.

EQ seriously impressing me.

I've only ran 2 cycles without test and it's just not fun for me. I have ran 2 test and eq cycles and loved it. My fav cycle. The second one included anavar and the 1st included winstrol. Both were awesome but the win gave me crazy lower back pumps.
 
It has to be my favorite compound to run. I love having a lot of strength and still being able to bang out 100 to 200 push-ups depending upon how good I feel that day. EQ gave me that feeling. I made some crazy gains in strength while running it and made some crazy and significant endurance gains as well. Also, the potential to maintain the gains you make on EQ in every category are significant. If bridged with GW at the end of a cycle that is the ultimate as far as IM concerned, because you will maintain all your endurance and the GW will prevent muscle wasting.

+1

If you can consistently put out the work and stay on diet, 16 weeks of EQ/Test is a permanent body change. Leaner, more muscle better endurance. Its not the quick gratification from superdrol that you get in 14 days, but again it depends on your goals. In my current scenario, EQ is my absolute best option.

And its not really that expensive.
 
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