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Is clomid a estrogen blocker

waterboy

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I read some where that clomid is a estrogen blocker if that is true is there any way that I could use clomid instead of nolvedex .My left nipple is a litle bigger then my right {nothing to bad }.If I have to use nolvadex it will take 3 weeks until it gets here and I all I have now is clomid .What will happen to me if i wait 3 weeks before i get it ? Also im supposed to take my shot today but should I wait until I get nolvadex ?Or is this a extreme emergency I should go to the doctors and get nolvadex ?IF I take my shot today it will be my 3rd shot . I only been taking 500mg of sust and 400mg of norandren 200 once a week .? Thanks for the help waterboy ..........................
 
Clomid is not an effective estrogen blocker outside of the hypothalamus...

NEVER use clomid throughout a cycle. Get proviron or arimidex for antiestrogens. Save the nolvadex for an emergency.


-Stew
 
Take the shot. Don't waste the gear. My last cycle was murder on my nips. I hit the clomid two weeks after I finished and I'm back to normal. No more tenderness or that extreme puffiness I had. It was so bad people noticed including the chick I'm seeing. She bit my nipples and I almost screamed. Being a nurse she knew what it was and knowing me knew the reason I had it. Take the shot. If you are hesitant send it to me and I'll take it for you. Ha ha
 
Flexx said:
I hit the clomid two weeks after I finished and I'm back to normal. No more tenderness or that extreme puffiness.

2 weeks afterward, your tenderness and puffiness may have subsided anyway.

Side effects of clomid:

blurred vission (but mostly in women), diplopia, scotoma, photo-phobia, nausea, vomiting, bloating, distention, water gain, breast discomfort, hot flashes, urinary infections, cyst formation, thrombocytopenia, leukopenia, anemia, pharyngitis, rhinitis, sinusitus, epistaxis, dyspnea, headaches, restlessness. insomnia, dizziness, light-headedness, depression, fatigue...

Clomid is, however, a VERY effective drug in promoting HPTA recovery post-cycle. Due to a feedback inhibition, clomid will not stimulate any natural testosterone production as long as androgen levels in the body remain high. But, post cycle, when androgen levels fall toward normal, clomid will bind to receptors in the hypothalamus and trick the pituatary into releaseing more LH... LH stimulates the testicles to produce testosterone, and testosterone is converted to estrogen. Anytime the body gets low in estrogen, it must make more testosterone in order to increase estrogen levels. Estrogen is absolutely necessary in various cellular and neural functions such as the branching of dendritic spines (memory)....


Use Arimidex or Proviron as antiestrogens throughout your cyle as antiestrogens. It is doubtful that clomid will have any benefit in preventing gyno... and will not prevent aromitase from converting testosterone into estrogen where proviron and arimidex will.

Arimidex is VERY effective and doesn't cost much more than other antiestrogens if you buy overseas (it is not controlled so it gets through customs).

Nolvadex can be used throughout a cycle and is effective at blocking estrogen receptors but is useless at preventing estrogen's formation. Nolvadex will also inhibit IGF-1 and GH which could severly effect your cycle... High levels of androgens normally cause an increase in IGF-1 mediated growth responses by increasing IGF-1 receptor concentration and hormone levels. This is the same pathway that GH uses... block the IGF-1 pathway with nolvadex, and you will not make the gains that you could have.
Given, there are those who say they gained just fine while using nolvadex, but truth be told, they would have gained a lot more had they researched.

Proviron is also good to use throughout. Proviron, however, will also elicit an AR-mediated response meaning it will cause some degree of anabolism in itself. Consequently, the anabolic response from proviron is not as strong as the anabolic response from the androgens that you are running it with (i.e. test, nandralone, etc). Thus, by competing with the same receptors, it could possibly decrease the overall effects of the primary anabolics.

BUT this effect will be VERY small if at all... the reason is that androgen receptors tend to have different affinities (binding abilities) to different gear. For instance, androgen receptors have a higher affinity towards DHT than they do testosterone. It is unlikely even though proviron has an AR-mediated response, that it will bind to the androgen receptors as redially as the other androgens that your cycle consists of. But aromitase enzymes DO have an affinity toward proviron, so this lowers the oveall competitive inhibition with androgens for androgen receptors.

Arimidex is the drug of choice... Dosses of 1/4 tab per day have shown to be extremely effective. There was almost no difference in the effects of 1mg/day and 7mg/day.... There is no point in going over 1/2 tab per day IMO unless you are running over 1.5g of testosterone per week. 28 tabs come in a box... The price of Arimidex has dropped signifigantly due to new products that contain anastrozole, the active ingredient in Arimidex.




-Stew




-Stew
 
hey stew how's about cytadren it blocks estrogen and seems a little less expensive, i also don't see how it could not be controlled either.
 
Clomid, however is not as effective as Nolvadex in breast tissue, but still good enough to prevent gyno. It doesn't bind only in Hypothalamus, it does bind to ER in many other organs, including breast and even is used in medical practice to threat gynecomastia.
Start Clomid now, 100mg/day for one week and 50mg/day after and try to get Arimidex(Liquidex) or Cytadren or Nolvadex ASAP!
 
Damn ......Stew meat thanks for the good old fashioned solid edgemacation bro !!!!!!!Good lucking out that helps out allot ,thanks for waking up the dead
 
Anostrozole(active ingredient in Liquidex) is not estrogen blocker, it's aromatise inhibitor. Instead of binding to estrogen receptor and preventing estrogen from doing so, it stops conversion of testosteron to estrogen, by blocking aromatise enzyme.
It's true, it's a way better anti-gyno drug then Nolvadex or Clomid.
 
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