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Is arimdex really that great?

JESA1

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Everyone tells me with every cycle to run arimidex? Is it really that much of a wonder drug. How long is the half life of that shit? It sounds really powerful. Any big side effects? And it really stops all the conversion of test into estrogen. The stuff is also decently expensive.
 
It's half life is roughly 48hrs, thus the reason everyone says to take it eod. It will pretty much stop any conversion to estrogen. It is good to put in with cycles, but not absolutely necessary. So far, I don't know of anyone getting any sides from them.
 
The greatest supplement I have ever taken. Will never consider a cycle with out it. and Stay on it at low doses even while off.

Nautica
 
I loved it, but the femara I am taking now works just as good and it is supposed to increase IGF-1 levels unlike arimidex which decreases them.
 
I can feel the heat already...

Didn't do shit for me. I was using 4mg/ml version. Real Liquidex, same lot number and everything from all the pics people posted. Nolva did in 24 hours, what arimidex couldn't do in a week. Maybe my body doesn't respond to it well..:confused: Get nolva even if you are getting arimidex, just in case. I almost had to learn it the hard way.

When this bottle runs out...it ain't gettin replaced.
 
Re: I can feel the heat already...

PaPaPumPPP said:
Didn't do shit for me. I was using 4mg/ml version. Real Liquidex, same lot number and everything from all the pics people posted. Nolva did in 24 hours, what arimidex couldn't do in a week. Maybe my body doesn't respond to it well..:confused: Get nolva even if you are getting arimidex, just in case. I almost had to learn it the hard way.

When this bottle runs out...it ain't gettin replaced.

Arimidex does nothing for estrogen already in production. It only keeps the body from creating new estrogen. If taken, in advance it should work.

But, I do always have nolv just in case.

Nautica
 
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nautica said:


Arimidex does nothing for estrogen already in production. It only keeps the body from creating new estrogen. If taken, in advance it should work.

But, I do always have nolv just in case.

Nautica

When you say taken in advance it should work what exactly do you mean. I think your saying taken in advance of getting bloated(when you start your cycle). You don't mean you should take it before you start your cycle do you?? I've always started it the same day as my cycle and it's worked great.
 
luv2lift! said:
I loved it, but the femara I am taking now works just as good and it is supposed to increase IGF-1 levels unlike arimidex which decreases them.

I thought this too, but from what I have read this is not the case. There was a post here not too long ago that confirmed that Femara doesn't raise IGF-1 levels. IGF-1 is linked to breast cancer, so this would be a side effect that a breast cancer medication would try to avoid. The post wasn't too long ago, and it sited research. I think it was called Femara and IGF-1. Check it out. At the very minimum though, at least femara doesn't decrease IGF-1 levels.
 
i will never do a cycle without it it is great for adding hardness and keeps estrogen retention sides down but only if taking before estrogen sides start
 
I have concerns about taking it during this 'var cycle...


I am thinking of using it to remove puberty gyno.. (real soft fatty tissue, could prob be burned off with cutting if I tried hard enough).. I fear a rebound effect.. has anyone used it off cycle.. say 8-10 weeks.. then went off for some time with no rebound?

Did it make your joints dryer from lack of estrogen/water?

Couldn't it worsen cholesterol if you are on say.. anavar?



twitched
 
Arimidex is great, been taking 1mg eod while running about 1 gram test/week and 75mg fina/day and see none of the usual estrogenic side effects. I'm getting harder by the day.
 
JESA1 said:
whats IGF-1? How does it lower it?
IGF-1 is insuline like growth factor-1. There is a lot of conflicting data in various abstracts, some show letrozole raises IGF-1, others show it has no effect. Even if it has no effect, I think thats better than the 18% reduction for anastrozole or the 56% reduction from nolvadex. Letrozole has been shown to be a bit more effective at blocking aromatization as well. It has not been too common but is easily obtained now.
 
JESA1 said:
Everyone tells me with every cycle to run arimidex? Is it really that much of a wonder drug. How long is the half life of that shit? It sounds really powerful. Any big side effects? And it really stops all the conversion of test into estrogen. The stuff is also decently expensive.

if you dont like gyno... and dont like water retention then yes its a wonder drug...:p ;)
 
Zyglamail said:
IGF-1 is insuline like growth factor-1. There is a lot of conflicting data in various abstracts, some show letrozole raises IGF-1, others show it has no effect. Even if it has no effect, I think thats better than the 18% reduction for anastrozole or the 56% reduction from nolvadex. Letrozole has been shown to be a bit more effective at blocking aromatization as well. It has not been too common but is easily obtained now.

56% reduction from Nolvadex? Wow. I guess I should probably avoid it (i had planned to use it at the end of my upcoming cycle with some HCG). Do you have your source for this info handy? Not that I don't trust you, but I'd like to read up on this myself. Thanks.

One more thing...any reports on HCG and IGF-1 levels?
 
56% reduction from Nolvadex? Wow. I guess I should probably avoid it (i had planned to use it at the end of my upcoming cycle with some HCG). Do you have your source for this info handy? Not that I don't trust you, but I'd like to read up on this myself. Thanks.
Thats the most I have seen reported, there are tons of freely available abstracts on nolva, many show varying decreases, but I think all studies I have seen indicate at least a decrease to some extent.

One more thing...any reports on HCG and IGF-1 levels?
Sorry I havent looked at all.
 
dosage schemes

Fellas

I'm gonna start liquidex for the first time this cycle and am fairly unsure of how I am going to dose it. I'd like to go eod to make it last a little longer...do you think there is a huge difference between .5 and 1 mg eod? Or should I go ed? Just some feedback on what has worked for people. I'll be doing dbol at 30mg ed for 4 weeks and 500mg sus for 10 weeks. What do ya'll think?
 
although arimidex/letrozole can reduce estrogen source fat stores
(harden up)...probably increased caloric intake and bloat contributed to your boyfriend's "chunky look"
 
Has anyone experienced any mood, fatigue, or appetite changes?

I already feel like dogshit on Anavar in the peak of allergy season (I have bad allergies), but I wouldn't mind throwing in some liquidex, but I don't want to feel any shittier then I am now.



twitched
 
Whats up bros. two things. Had the armidex bothered anyones stomach at all, pains, cramps, nausious. Also will armidex show up in a regular employment drug test that checks for pot, cocaine, etc. Thanx
 
ammon said:
Anyone on how often and how much to use?????

.25mg anastrozole per 250mg/wk of test is usually plenty of protection.

Whats up bros. two things. Had the armidex bothered anyones stomach at all, pains, cramps, nausious. Also will armidex show up in a regular employment drug test that checks for pot, cocaine, etc. Thanx
For the most part anastrozole is well tolerated, much more so than nolva. As for drug tests, it will riase natural test levels by about 50% but not sure if that will through a flag for drug testing, the ana itself shouldnt.
 
Thanks Zyg-

I was planning on doing .5mg ed or 1mg eod, so that should be plenty of protection...which one would you reccomend, ed or eod, since the half life is around 48 hrs does it really matter?
 
Thanks Zyg. My bro has a hard time handling roids by mouth, ie dbol, anadrol, etc so he always has to do a complete injectable cycle. Anyways he has some armidex and would like to take it however he was not sure if it would bother his stomach. I must say for a big mean looking guy he has the worst stomach of anyone I know. Also the place he works randomly checks employees for drugs. I beleive every month they pick a number and if it is yours, your up. He does not take any recreation drugs at all, just some juice. He wants to be certain that the armidex wont show up in the drug test before he takes it. He has the same problem with clomid, whather that will show up on a regular drug test. A s a reslt when he comes off a cycle he suffers big time becuase he really limits the clomid. Any other feedback on the stomach or drug test issue would be highly apprecaited. thanx.
 
im currently on 1cc fina ED and this is the third week of 1000mg sustenon a week, i always have terrible sides from test, but im taking 1mg arimidex ED now, and am hard, lean and vascular, and strong as hell. I have femara also, i'm probably gonna run it post cycle for 4 weeks or so at 1mg EOD to stop rebounding estrogen
 
Twitched had two good points: "drying out of joints" and "mood, fatigue, appetite changes." I have experienced both, I believe.

When I started it I felt like doo-doo, kind of like I had the flu, and sort of lethargic. Yet I also felt more energized in a way from the extra testosterone. So it was a trade-off. I also had trouble sleeping. This is on .5mg ED of the pills only, no juice. I also craved junk food like ice cream for some reason. I started to adjust but it was still too much so I backed off to .5mg EOD. SO far I feel normal yet still slightly energized too.

Finally, I am getting some joint and muscle pain that I believe could be related to the lack of water as well. I have chondromalacia that was pretty much in remission until I started the Adex and now I kind of feel it creeping back--maybe because the cartilage isn't staying hydrated enough?!?!?!?

Would love to hear others' reactions.

JC
 
Can someone who knows comment on the effects of liquidex on cholesterol values. I'd like to know the facts.

I'm on 6th week of sust/deca and 3rd week of Fina. I'm very vascular, lean, and not really seeing any estrogen sides -- just awsome strength. I have a bottle of liquidex, but wasn't going to take it untill post-cycle.

Question: Am I better off not taking it unless I need it, or should I take it now to insure that it won't get to the point where I do need it?
 
joncrane said:
Twitched had two good points: "drying out of joints" and "mood, fatigue, appetite changes." I have experienced both, I believe.

When I started it I felt like doo-doo, kind of like I had the flu, and sort of lethargic. Yet I also felt more energized in a way from the extra testosterone. So it was a trade-off. I also had trouble sleeping. This is on .5mg ED of the pills only, no juice. I also craved junk food like ice cream for some reason. I started to adjust but it was still too much so I backed off to .5mg EOD. SO far I feel normal yet still slightly energized too.

Finally, I am getting some joint and muscle pain that I believe could be related to the lack of water as well. I have chondromalacia that was pretty much in remission until I started the Adex and now I kind of feel it creeping back--maybe because the cartilage isn't staying hydrated enough?!?!?!?

Would love to hear others' reactions.

JC
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Yeah this is what I was worried about taking it off cycle.

Maybe .125-.25mg ED would limit any negative effects.

Last thing I need are creaky joints and even less of an appetite.



twitched
 
Any other info bros on stomach discomfort with these. Also any info out there on whether or not the armidex would show up in a regular drug test for pot, cocaine, etc.
 
Rotty said:
Any other info bros on stomach discomfort with these. Also any info out there on whether or not the armidex would show up in a regular drug test for pot, cocaine, etc.

Most street drug tests only test for the "big 6." I think they are pot, coke, opiates, PCP, amphetamines, and something else. They certainly do not test for breast concer drugs. Even IOC and NCAA tests do not test for them. The only problem for the NCAA would be if somehow shutting down the estrogen upped your test:epitestosterone ration above 6:1.

JC
 
BUMP. Anyone else have any info on stomach discomfort with armidex and whether or not it would show up in a drug test. So far, sounds good.
 
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