Is anyone here a scientologist?

[treetrunkbis]

Is anyone here a scientologist or know of anyone who is?

 

[bloodinbloodout]

no but I am a bootyologist

 

[KillahBee]

yes, stilletho

 

[CASS]

no but I am a bootyologist

LMAO!!!!

 

[EnderJE]

I thought of trying out for it so I can get closer to Kelly "whatever her name is, but she's fucking hot".

If that doesn't work out, I wanna join the Movementarians.

 

[Mr. dB]

I thought of trying out for it so I can get closer to Kelly "whatever her name is, but she's fucking hot".

If that doesn't work out, I wanna join the Movementarians.

Just get a comb and a piece of wax paper.

 

[Lestat]

great first post!

 

[UA_Iron]

scientoligists are against ritalin and such

by default I guess I am the antithesis of scientology.

I have no god either.

 

[Gymgurl]

Not I

 

[c00per]

Don't you have to jump on furniture to be a scientologist?

If that doesn't work out, I wanna join the Movementarians.

We're having a free get acquainted session at our resort this weekend.
How much is this free resort weekend?
It's Free !
And when is this weekend?
It's this weekend.
Uh-huh, and how much does it cost?
Um, it's free.
I see, and when is it?
It's this weekend.
And what are you charging for this free weekend?

It's free, right?

 

[Whiskey]

nope, but when I lived in cali I was asked if I was numerous times. Every time I said no they tried to get me to join up

I am interested in the whole mentality of it, a stronger mental self. BUT, I don't want to be a full on member who jumps on couches and shocks Oprah with lightning

Whiskey

 

[Gambino]

i just recently joined

 

[Mr. dB]

i just recently joined

Have you read "Diuretics" yet?

 

[tiger88]

nope, but when I lived in cali I was asked if I was numerous times. Every time I said no they tried to get me to join up

I am interested in the whole mentality of it, a stronger mental self. BUT, I don't want to be a full on member who jumps on couches and shocks Oprah with lightning

Whiskey

welcome to cali

those crazy fucks have lil booths set up everywhere... ppl stop u and they ask if u are stressed..."fuck yesi am stresed my golf game is in the shit" !

so they sit u down and ask u questions

then they ask u if you ever done drugs so not fare..then ask what drugs...WTF@

then u hold these lil silver handles and they ask you more ???? and those M H are hooked up to some graph thing and it sys your stressed and u need to buy this book (ma'am i have a 8th grade reading level. gimmie a DVD"

but serious its a scam

if it wasnt for tom no one would know or care about it

 

[silverbackn]

Tom Cruise is my God

 

[thewanderer690]

Travolta is a scientologist as well. I heard they have a lot in florida as well.

 

[jacked clown]

I go with Tom and Katie every week, because I am down with the celebs baby

 

[Mr. dB]

Travolta is a scientologist as well. I heard they have a lot in florida as well.

Jazz pianist Chick Corea is a wacko Scientologist too, as is the woman who does the voice for Bart Simpson.

 

[thewanderer690]

list of current and former famous scientologists:

Current
JJ Abrams, writer
Kirstie Alley, actress
Anne Archer, actress (her son, Tom Davis, runs the LA celebrity center)
Paul Leland, Magician
Jennifer Aspen, actress
Beck, musician
Lynsey Bartilson, actress
Jason Beghe, actor
Brent Graber, Voice of 'Otis' in movie 'Milo and Otis'
Catherine Bell, actress
Karen Nelson Bell, producer, director and musician
Mary Bono, congresswoman
Sonny Bono, artist and congressman (claimed Catholicism on campaign biographies)
Rufus Buck, folk singer
David Campbell, musician
Meghan Schlinder, swimsuit model
Gregory Caridi, writer, comedian
Mike Joubert, Bronson Pinchot's voice coach
Nancy Cartwright, voiceover artist
Sharon Case, actress
Cyprien Katsaris, musician
Kate Ceberano, actress and musician
Erika Christensen, actress
Chick Corea, musician
Tom Cruise, actor (formerly Catholic, according to Parade)
Sky Dayton, founder and Chairman of the Board of EarthLink
Xavier Deluc, actor
Jason Dohring, actor
Jenna Elfman, actress, formerly Catholic, and her husband Bodhi, actor
Michael Fairman, actor
Isaac Hayes, musician, actor, and voiceover artist ("Chef")
Katie Holmes, actress, introduced to Scientology by fiance Tom Cruise
Nicky Hopkins, musician
Mark Isham, musician
Terry Jastrow, TV producer and director (married to Anne Archer)
Jim Johnson, owner of Mr. Jim's Pizza chain
Chaka Khan, singer
Jason Lee, actor and professional skateboarder
Geoffrey Lewis, actor
Johnny Lewis, actor
Juliette Lewis, actress
Peggy Lipton, actress
Nathan Luksa, The Bus Stop
Christopher Masterson, actor
Danny Masterson, actor
Lisa McPherson, died at Fort Harrison Hotel
Peter Medak, director
Jim Meskimen, actor and improviser
Sofia Milos, actress (CSI: Miami)
Elisabeth Moss, actress
Floyd Mutrux, writer, director and producer
Haywood Nelson, actor
Corin Nemec, actor
Marisol Nichols, actress
Judy Norton, actress and musician
Eduardo Palomo, actor, and his wife Carina, actress and musician
Don Pearson, management consultant
Michael Pena, actor
Bernadette Peters, actress and singer (source: Bergen Record 3/10/1985, may be an ex-member)
Jeff Pomerantz, actor and founder of Hollywood Says No to Drugs
Lisa Marie Presley, singer and daughter of Elvis
Priscilla Presley, actress and wife of Elvis
Kelly Preston, actress and John Travolta's wife
Leah Remini, actress
Giovanni Ribisi, actor
Marissa Ribisi, actress, wife of Beck Hansen, sister of Giovanni Ribisi.
Carina Ricco, singer, actress and composer
Michael D. Roberts, actor
Mimi Rogers, actress
Gloria Rusch-Novello, singer, writer and actress
Pablo Santos, actor
Kristin Schwing, actress
Billy Sheehan, rock bassist
David Singer, chiropractor, 'Management by Statistics' consultant
Reed Slatkin, criminal ponzi scheme perpetrator
Bennetta Slaughter, printing business owner and employer of Lisa McPherson
Michelle Stafford, actress
Matthew Sullivan, self-proclaimed world champ
Ethan Suplee, actor
Patrick Swayze, actor
Greta Van Susteren, host of On the Record with Greta Van Susteren on FNC
Kevin A. Tavera, writer
John Travolta, actor
Vjacheslav Trushkin, website designer
Jeff Wells, author of Jeff Chandler: Film, Record, Radio, Television and Theater Performances (McFarland, 2005)
Josh Wiener, famous poet
Edgar Winter, musician
David Wittig, CEO

Former
John Brodie, football player
William S. Burroughs, author, Beat Generation icon (later denounced it)
Werner Erhard, founder of EST
Emilio Estevez, actor (renounced and won't discuss it)
Gloria Gaynor, singer (later renounced)
Charles Manson, serial killer (while in prison in the early 1960s)
Ricky Martin, singer (says he dabbled in it)
Van Morrison, singer, songwriter (renounced Scientology in the 1980s)
Barbara Schwarz, former Scientologist claiming Hubbard parentage
Jerry Seinfeld, comedian
Oliver Stone, director (said involvement was finished after 4 months)
Sharon Stone, actress (reportedly now a convert to Buddhism)
JJ Abrams, Writer

 

[Sassy69]

nope, but when I lived in cali I was asked if I was numerous times. Every time I said no they tried to get me to join up

I am interested in the whole mentality of it, a stronger mental self. BUT, I don't want to be a full on member who jumps on couches and shocks Oprah with lightning

Whiskey

So Scientology is like the new Jehovah's Witness?

 

[Mr. dB]

Beck, musician
Giovanni Ribisi, actor
Marissa Ribisi, actress, wife of Beck Hansen, sister of Giovanni Ribisi.

Very dissappointing.

 

[jaybois]

list of current and former famous scientologists:

Current
JJ Abrams, writer
Kirstie Alley, actress
Anne Archer, actress (her son, Tom Davis, runs the LA celebrity center)
Paul Leland, Magician
Jennifer Aspen, actress
Beck, musician
Lynsey Bartilson, actress
Jason Beghe, actor
Brent Graber, Voice of 'Otis' in movie 'Milo and Otis'
Catherine Bell, actress
Karen Nelson Bell, producer, director and musician
Mary Bono, congresswoman
Sonny Bono, artist and congressman (claimed Catholicism on campaign biographies)
Rufus Buck, folk singer
David Campbell, musician
Meghan Schlinder, swimsuit model
Gregory Caridi, writer, comedian
Mike Joubert, Bronson Pinchot's voice coach
Nancy Cartwright, voiceover artist
Sharon Case, actress
Cyprien Katsaris, musician
Kate Ceberano, actress and musician
Erika Christensen, actress
Chick Corea, musician
Tom Cruise, actor (formerly Catholic, according to Parade)
Sky Dayton, founder and Chairman of the Board of EarthLink
Xavier Deluc, actor
Jason Dohring, actor
Jenna Elfman, actress, formerly Catholic, and her husband Bodhi, actor
Michael Fairman, actor
Isaac Hayes, musician, actor, and voiceover artist ("Chef")
Katie Holmes, actress, introduced to Scientology by fiance Tom Cruise
Nicky Hopkins, musician
Mark Isham, musician
Terry Jastrow, TV producer and director (married to Anne Archer)
Jim Johnson, owner of Mr. Jim's Pizza chain
Chaka Khan, singer
Jason Lee, actor and professional skateboarder
Geoffrey Lewis, actor
Johnny Lewis, actor
Juliette Lewis, actress
Peggy Lipton, actress
Nathan Luksa, The Bus Stop
Christopher Masterson, actor
Danny Masterson, actor
Lisa McPherson, died at Fort Harrison Hotel
Peter Medak, director
Jim Meskimen, actor and improviser
Sofia Milos, actress (CSI: Miami)
Elisabeth Moss, actress
Floyd Mutrux, writer, director and producer
Haywood Nelson, actor
Corin Nemec, actor
Marisol Nichols, actress
Judy Norton, actress and musician
Eduardo Palomo, actor, and his wife Carina, actress and musician
Don Pearson, management consultant
Michael Pena, actor
Bernadette Peters, actress and singer (source: Bergen Record 3/10/1985, may be an ex-member)
Jeff Pomerantz, actor and founder of Hollywood Says No to Drugs
Lisa Marie Presley, singer and daughter of Elvis
Priscilla Presley, actress and wife of Elvis
Kelly Preston, actress and John Travolta's wife
Leah Remini, actress
Giovanni Ribisi, actor
Marissa Ribisi, actress, wife of Beck Hansen, sister of Giovanni Ribisi.
Carina Ricco, singer, actress and composer
Michael D. Roberts, actor
Mimi Rogers, actress
Gloria Rusch-Novello, singer, writer and actress
Pablo Santos, actor
Kristin Schwing, actress
Billy Sheehan, rock bassist
David Singer, chiropractor, 'Management by Statistics' consultant
Reed Slatkin, criminal ponzi scheme perpetrator
Bennetta Slaughter, printing business owner and employer of Lisa McPherson
Michelle Stafford, actress
Matthew Sullivan, self-proclaimed world champ
Ethan Suplee, actor
Patrick Swayze, actor
Greta Van Susteren, host of On the Record with Greta Van Susteren on FNC
Kevin A. Tavera, writer
John Travolta, actor
Vjacheslav Trushkin, website designer
Jeff Wells, author of Jeff Chandler: Film, Record, Radio, Television and Theater Performances (McFarland, 2005)
Josh Wiener, famous poet
Edgar Winter, musician
David Wittig, CEO

Former
John Brodie, football player
William S. Burroughs, author, Beat Generation icon (later denounced it)
Werner Erhard, founder of EST
Emilio Estevez, actor (renounced and won't discuss it)
Gloria Gaynor, singer (later renounced)
Charles Manson, serial killer (while in prison in the early 1960s)
Ricky Martin, singer (says he dabbled in it)
Van Morrison, singer, songwriter (renounced Scientology in the 1980s)
Barbara Schwarz, former Scientologist claiming Hubbard parentage
Jerry Seinfeld, comedian
Oliver Stone, director (said involvement was finished after 4 months)
Sharon Stone, actress (reportedly now a convert to Buddhism)
JJ Abrams, Writer

also a list of people that eat there own shit.

 

[harmonica]

I've googled it before. Many anti-scientology sites with former members saying some pretty interesting stuff. 2 things stuck with me. Firstly, in order to move up the ranks it costs a LOT of money. I mean a LOT of money. Youo dont have to pay but there is preasure (eventually) put on you to do so. Secondly, Scientology for the stars is different than for others. "The Church" really takes care of those in the public eye for obvious reasons. L Ron was a whackjob.

 

[silverbackn]

So Scientology is like the new Jehovah's Witness?

It's just Christianity, hard to compare the two

 

[JayC9]

It's just Christianity, hard to compare the two

Both sects are quite different but equally as nuts.

 

[stilleto]

yes, stilletho

huh?
i've never been one. Don't even know much about it except it involves being crazy.

 

[mountain muscle]

Anything that attracts that number of celebrities has to be bad.

 

[silverbackn]

Both sects are quite different but equally as nuts.

I'm not a Jehovah's Witness, but it is Christianity based on the Bible. I studied with a few JW's for about 6 or 8 months and learned a ton about the bible. It's extremely misunderstood. A lot of people don't think they believe in Jesus. Which is completely untrue. All sects of Christianity focus on certain aspects of the Bible which they deem as important. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just a different interpretation or a shifted emphasis. I am a Christian by the way.

 

[CASS]

theres a few late replies to this basicly weird post my a now non member! LMAO!

 

[the_clockwork]

repost

 

[JayC9]

I'm not a Jehovah's Witness, but it is Christianity based on the Bible. I studied with a few JW's for about 6 or 8 months and learned a ton about the bible. It's extremely misunderstood. A lot of people don't think they believe in Jesus. Which is completely untrue. All sects of Christianity focus on certain aspects of the Bible which they deem as important. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just a different interpretation or a shifted emphasis. I am a Christian by the way.

I also have known JW's from my youth and studied all of their literature. I still have a copy of their bible because it has cross-references to many other scriptures. In my experience JW's are very nice people, they have a strict non violence code, they're well versed in the bible, they have high moral standards and they take their own time for no monetary gain to go out and tell people what they believe in which not many others sects do. Many people find this annoying which I don't understand because they're not pushy salesman, a simple 'I'm not interested thank you' is all that’s required. People no longer have the time of day to sit and talk but I actually enjoyed all the discussions I've had with them in the past.

Ok, so all very well on the surface but what if you scratch through the veneer? Well if you take the time to look through their history starting with their founder Charles Taze Russell who began his movement in the late 1800's, through to the message they preach today you will find not only many discrepancies, complete u-turns in policy and huge contradictions but what’s most worrying in my eyes is there is one theme that runs from start to finish. That theme is fear.

The end is nigh.
Armageddon is just around the corner.
The writings on the wall.
We're living in the last days of this wicked system.
etc, etc

You only have to look at their latest magazines to see that they're still pushing that one. So what they do is they set a date that isn't too far but not too close and they predict that by that date Armageddon will come. When that date draws near and everybody’s still standing they say ‘er actually we made a mistake with the bible translation’ and set another date.

When I studied their literature they predicted that the end of the world would come before the generation of 1914 died and passed away. It was all worked out very cleverly using bible dates and prophecy. Guess what they've done since? Yes, they've changed the date and their view point on that one but I'll bet every negative movement in the world news is still being preached as 'the sign of the times for this dying world'.

These people really believe that the world is about to come to an end any moment now. They believe that the wicked will be washed from the face of the earth and the righteous will live in paradise earth forever. Not only that but all the righteous good people in the past will be resurrected to live with them. The direct effect this has on their followers is that they put their religion first over everything, including family, career, education and their life. The religion becomes their life and the more they get sucked in the more they become brainwashed by the whole thing.

Their channels of information are limited to the literature they produce. Their associations are limited to those within the same faith. They are permitted to only marry those of the same faith. If you break their rules or code of conduct you are disfellowshiped and the other members are not allowed to talk to you. These are the same methods used many times through history to brainwash people.

Why? Money is why, follow the money trail. All religions are big business. Religions promise if you devote your life, your time and your money in this life, you will be rewarded in the next. What a great deal, and do you know what, nobody comes back to complain that they were gypped.

 

[Sassy69]

It's just Christianity, hard to compare the two

I think my comment was related to the stopping you & discussing it.

 

[SoKlueles]

no but i ate at a restaurant today that john travolta ate at before
his pic is on the wall

 

[redguru]

no but i ate at a restaurant today that john travolta ate at before
his pic is on the wall

You been to his place in Ocala? I hear they built a hanger on his property for his 727.

 

[SoKlueles]

no it was in clearwater, some lil mom and pops restaurant
its near the morton plant hospital or whatever(i had a yucky procedure this monring)
Its called toms or tims or something

 

[redguru]

Jazz pianist Chick Corea is a wacko Scientologist too, as is the woman who does the voice for Bart Simpson.

I hear Chick got Al Di involved too, but Al Di has since dropped out?

 

[silverbackn]

I think my comment was related to the stopping you & discussing it.

Well it worked, you sucked me in...lol

 

[silverbackn]

I also have known JW's from my youth and studied all of their literature. I still have a copy of their bible because it has cross-references to many other scriptures. In my experience JW's are very nice people, they have a strict non violence code, they're well versed in the bible, they have high moral standards and they take their own time for no monetary gain to go out and tell people what they believe in which not many others sects do. Many people find this annoying which I don't understand because they're not pushy salesman, a simple 'I'm not interested thank you' is all that’s required. People no longer have the time of day to sit and talk but I actually enjoyed all the discussions I've had with them in the past.

Ok, so all very well on the surface but what if you scratch through the veneer? Well if you take the time to look through their history starting with their founder Charles Taze Russell who began his movement in the late 1800's, through to the message they preach today you will find not only many discrepancies, complete u-turns in policy and huge contradictions but what’s most worrying in my eyes is there is one theme that runs from start to finish. That theme is fear.

The end is nigh.
Armageddon is just around the corner.
The writings on the wall.
We're living in the last days of this wicked system.
etc, etc

You only have to look at their latest magazines to see that they're still pushing that one. So what they do is they set a date that isn't too far but not too close and they predict that by that date Armageddon will come. When that date draws near and everybody’s still standing they say ‘er actually we made a mistake with the bible translation’ and set another date.

When I studied their literature they predicted that the end of the world would come before the generation of 1914 died and passed away. It was all worked out very cleverly using bible dates and prophecy. Guess what they've done since? Yes, they've changed the date and their view point on that one but I'll bet every negative movement in the world news is still being preached as 'the sign of the times for this dying world'.

These people really believe that the world is about to come to an end any moment now. They believe that the wicked will be washed from the face of the earth and the righteous will live in paradise earth forever. Not only that but all the righteous good people in the past will be resurrected to live with them. The direct effect this has on their followers is that they put their religion first over everything, including family, career, education and their life. The religion becomes their life and the more they get sucked in the more they become brainwashed by the whole thing.

Their channels of information are limited to the literature they produce. Their associations are limited to those within the same faith. They are permitted to only marry those of the same faith. If you break their rules or code of conduct you are disfellowshiped and the other members are not allowed to talk to you. These are the same methods used many times through history to brainwash people.

Why? Money is why, follow the money trail. All religions are big business. Religions promise if you devote your life, your time and your money in this life, you will be rewarded in the next. What a great deal, and do you know what, nobody comes back to complain that they were gypped.

You know your stuff!!! You pretty much pegged all of it. They do have recurrent themes that they beat you death with, such as that we are living in the last days. They are very genuine people though. Money is not their aim, no one is getting paid. There is no one minister or pastor that is profiting. No one profits monetarily. Which I think is a HUGE part of why organized religion has become a slap in the face to true Christian beliefs. I don't know much about the history and how much their philosophies have changed from the beginning to now. I believe they are very well intentioned. I can understand why people get annoyed with the door to door stuff, but in the heart of someone that has a strong faith they believe that you are sharing information that is lifesaving. When you look at it in that light it doesn't seem quite as abrasive, intruding, or rude. You are right about them giving their lives up for it. Something that was strange to me was that they discouraged education!!! They said that you should just learn a skill or trade and focus your education biblical things. That blew my mind completely. The disfellowshipping thing I won't even get into...I think it's complete bullshit on every level. I think it puts imperfect man into the role of speaking for God and condemning, which were told not to do repeatedly in the Bible. Good thread bro!!!

 

[javaguru]

This is a good watch if you're interested in comparative theology.

"Richard Dawkins reads excerpts from The God Delusion and anwsers questions at Randolph-Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg, Virginia on October 23, 2006. This Q&A features many questions from Jerry Falwell's Liberty 'University' students."

http://richarddawkins.net/article,3...sion-in-Lynchburg-VA,Richard-Dawkins--C-SPAN2