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Is America free? How does it compare to Europe?
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PIGEON-RAT
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Less free concerning drugs. And that's all that matters.
Creepusmaximus
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Europe is more based on a class system if your on the lower side you wouldn't like it there.
sconoscuito
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europe is fuckin great, im moving back there as soon as im done with college here
girls, beer, life, food everything is better over there
then again im european so thats prolly why but for me life just seems much more exciting over there then it is here
girls, beer, life, food everything is better over there
then again im european so thats prolly why but for me life just seems much more exciting over there then it is here
sconoscuito
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no actually just came here to play basketball in highschool which was about 4-5 years ago
its like an exchange student program but not really cause the reason you come to US is to join a school with a good basketball program so you start to get better...coaches hook it up.
it was a popular thing to do back then but people started realising its also a stupid thing to do so they stopped, its one thing to come from europe and play in the nba then come from europe and either play college basketball or highschool but I wont go into details
anyway then I decided to stay with my brother here and keep playing so thats what I did and now Im just an average player on some junior college.
its like an exchange student program but not really cause the reason you come to US is to join a school with a good basketball program so you start to get better...coaches hook it up.
it was a popular thing to do back then but people started realising its also a stupid thing to do so they stopped, its one thing to come from europe and play in the nba then come from europe and either play college basketball or highschool but I wont go into details
anyway then I decided to stay with my brother here and keep playing so thats what I did and now Im just an average player on some junior college.
atlantabiolab
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plornive said:
The US is more economically unregulated, while Europe is less socially restrictive.
It's 6 in one hand, half-dozen in the other. The overall mindset of the general populace is similar.
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we eat less burgers.
atlantabiolab
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Re: Re: Re: Is America free? How does it compare to Europe?
Sorry, needed more clarification. Both the US and Europe are filled with individuals who believe that government's role is "the great provider". I agree that US and European mentalities are different in many other perspectives.
Spanky11 said:
Sorry, needed more clarification. Both the US and Europe are filled with individuals who believe that government's role is "the great provider". I agree that US and European mentalities are different in many other perspectives.
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Yes.. Europeans are smarter.
atlantabiolab
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Ashamed said:
I could care less about the masses. I just enjoy knowing that I am smarter than you.
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atlantabiolab said:
I seriously doubt it..
BO-DEN
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curling said:
i dis agree broly
here we have a thing called "DEADLY FORCE" so that means any little stupid bitch cop can put me down ,if i fight back.
i think police should be warriors. i dont repect most of them because most couldnt stop shit without there wepon.
i would love a country that would just beat you down... not shoot you dead.
at least give us "criminals" a chance.
FIGHT the machine!
BO-DEN said:
See that is why I like guns because they put you on a equal basis with anybody. You see I can even take on a bad cop because I have more and better guns than they do. It just makes me made I can't have a fully auto ak or m16 stupid liberals wusses took away all the fun guns.
Testosterone boy
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Re: Re: Is America free? How does it compare to Europe?
Prozac nation? I wonder why?
Except we consume at least 24 times the anti-depressants per capita.atlantabiolab said:
Prozac nation? I wonder why?
Testosterone boy
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The great thing about America is that you have a good chance of eventually living large if you have the right mix of talents.
You are pretty much stuck in a caste system in Europe.
America was probably a better country to live in until we evolved into a country where people are seen and used as units.........oh never mind.
You are pretty much stuck in a caste system in Europe.
America was probably a better country to live in until we evolved into a country where people are seen and used as units.........oh never mind.
Robert Jan
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I find it strange how many have commented Europe is more class based, while Europe is more left-wing than the USA.
Europe has greater social freedom. There is more tolerance and acceptance, and we are more layd-back.
However there is obviously a lot of freedom in living in a country with so few inhabitants per square mile, and having such low petrol prices and no custody to pass through in thousands of miles. (Though with the EU we are getting there in this respect)
Yes in the USA you can carry guns, and thats a freedom we dont have. However if you like your guns so damn much you can join a shooting range and fire practically anything you want. If your a registered member for X years and sign some forms you can take your weapons home. I dont think a true gun nut will have a problem with Europe, if you just take the effort you can preserve your shooting hobby. Funny thing is these shooting ranges are not doing too great business. Europeans just dont care for the guns, its not like we`re all eager to have them and our government tells us we can`t.
I think in Europe there is more room for debate.
The way the US government tries to control drugs, prostitution and sex is not something I agree with, but we must remember that the liberal legislation about this is really just here in Holland, not really in all of Europe. Although no European country would be as strict on these offences as the USA, stuff is still illegal.
Also we have bills in different colours, and yours are all green. that must get so boring.
Europe has greater social freedom. There is more tolerance and acceptance, and we are more layd-back.
However there is obviously a lot of freedom in living in a country with so few inhabitants per square mile, and having such low petrol prices and no custody to pass through in thousands of miles. (Though with the EU we are getting there in this respect)
Yes in the USA you can carry guns, and thats a freedom we dont have. However if you like your guns so damn much you can join a shooting range and fire practically anything you want. If your a registered member for X years and sign some forms you can take your weapons home. I dont think a true gun nut will have a problem with Europe, if you just take the effort you can preserve your shooting hobby. Funny thing is these shooting ranges are not doing too great business. Europeans just dont care for the guns, its not like we`re all eager to have them and our government tells us we can`t.
I think in Europe there is more room for debate.
The way the US government tries to control drugs, prostitution and sex is not something I agree with, but we must remember that the liberal legislation about this is really just here in Holland, not really in all of Europe. Although no European country would be as strict on these offences as the USA, stuff is still illegal.
Also we have bills in different colours, and yours are all green. that must get so boring.
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Robert Jan
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Yeah maybe.
Its just a whole other damn attitude. You know why football was never made big in the USA? There aren`t enough dead moments in the game to plug in enough commercials. People in the American TV industry and sports industry told me this themselves.
Its just a whole other damn attitude. You know why football was never made big in the USA? There aren`t enough dead moments in the game to plug in enough commercials. People in the American TV industry and sports industry told me this themselves.
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GoldenDelicious
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from what i have seen, the europeans generally have seen the extremes of rich and poor, old and new, and are steeped in an older culture.
i find them faster on their feet, a touch more sinister, and far less lazy (esp mentally) than the americans
americans are far more likely to shoot their mouths off and look stupid (from what i have seen)
anyway the best way to live in europe is as a rich foreigner imo
i find them faster on their feet, a touch more sinister, and far less lazy (esp mentally) than the americans
americans are far more likely to shoot their mouths off and look stupid (from what i have seen)
anyway the best way to live in europe is as a rich foreigner imo
Robert Jan
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Are you an apple?
we have a great country with seriuos issues.............
I think the issues are:
1)the infringment on our civil liberties,
2)the fact that our media is perpetuating a class of selfish materialistic, dumb, comsumer drones.
3)and the fact that values like manipulation, greed, and the more base instincts of our humanity are being encouraged while the more civic and community virtues are being cast aside with no regard
peace must be cultivated its not a give in =(
I think the issues are:
1)the infringment on our civil liberties,
2)the fact that our media is perpetuating a class of selfish materialistic, dumb, comsumer drones.
3)and the fact that values like manipulation, greed, and the more base instincts of our humanity are being encouraged while the more civic and community virtues are being cast aside with no regard
peace must be cultivated its not a give in =(
GoldenDelicious
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no im not an apple
methinks youre going a bit fruity there mate
methinks youre going a bit fruity there mate
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are you a curious orange?
Dude you'Re talking through your ass. It's not that people dont care, it's because they never had the same rights as americans have on this aspect. They have no political choice, most "right-wing" parties are in fact "center-left". I'm from Europe myself, and I would never, ever go back there to live on a permanent basis.
Why would you need a gun ? Cause it's a natural right for everyone to defend himself, his family and his property.
Now concerning your comment about gunnuts having an easy life there, you're so wrong. Do you have an idea what someone needs to go through in order to get and preserve his license ? Also, a country like Spain for example will put a limit of one handgun per license holder. Italy prohibits LE/military calibers (9mm, .45ACP), France wont let you buy anything over .22LR, same for England, Germany prohibits silouhette/human shaped targets and guess what ? Your crime rate is still higher in many of those countries than here.
And ranges dont make money there cause most firearms are prohibited. Sorry but there's no fun to shoot everyday with a .22LR or shooting at a bullseye target.
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yes i feel i have missed out not owning a gun... every american should have a gun and take them to school....
black trench coats are nice also....
black trench coats are nice also....
Robert Jan
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I`m NOT going into the arms debate AGAIN, in fact im not even that much against it, I just wanted to point out we are not as anal about guns as some americans might think.
Altogether I dont think it is very important, it is not as a big of a deal as many make it out to be
Altogether I dont think it is very important, it is not as a big of a deal as many make it out to be
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i got a gun
i can protect my self from the black man now
and random intruders
and the kids at school
i can protect my self from the black man now
and random intruders
and the kids at school
Robert Jan
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Back to civil freedom in general...
how about
speed limits and public nudity limits.
how about
speed limits and public nudity limits.
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atlantabiolab
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Robert Jan said:
We do have greater restrictions on the above topics, but speed limits in the US are of a greater concern than what it would be in the European nations. First, we are a larger nation, with greater population and concentration, and second, because the US is a cheaper nation to live, we have more individuals who have cars.
As for public nudity, while it might be a young boy's wet dream, I fail to see any benefit to letting everyone run around naked. There are a sufficient number of private venues for this and there should be a modicum of dignity in society. I don't think the punishments in the US are harsh for public nudity. But why stop at public nudity, why not have public shitting, or public sex?
The US does have many more civil restrictions than Europe, as I have stated, many of which I disagree with. The major differences between the US and Euroope is not so much in these issues as much as in economic regulations. Europe is ripe with government regulations concerning every iota of business. The US is modeling its practices after Europe's regulatory state, and we are paying for it. Government intervention costs money, jobs, innovation, reduces incentive, etc.
Also, many European nations are accepting of censorship, punishing those who publically "offend" or "incite hate" against another group. The US is not too far behind.
GodOfThunder
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I intend on living abroad after college and I'll tell you why.
for one, Americans work more than any other nation in the world. 2 weeks a year vactation?! I intend to live my life and not work myself to death. Second, the USA is becoming a police state. Policemen should not have to go out looking for crime when crime is so rampant in other areas. When I get a ticket for going 10 over the speed limit, I know there are more important things that cop could be doing, but hell, he's got to make his quota. I don't even feel like writing more than this. Peace.
for one, Americans work more than any other nation in the world. 2 weeks a year vactation?! I intend to live my life and not work myself to death. Second, the USA is becoming a police state. Policemen should not have to go out looking for crime when crime is so rampant in other areas. When I get a ticket for going 10 over the speed limit, I know there are more important things that cop could be doing, but hell, he's got to make his quota. I don't even feel like writing more than this. Peace.
Robert Jan
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GOT sorry to break to you but cops work to earn back the tax money cost by writing tickets, not to fight crime, both in the US and abroad.
Atlantabiolab, I dont think everybody should go around naked either. Still the laws are a sign of the culture, a sign of prudence.
Its uncommon for females to keep their top on while sunbathing in Europe and its not like we all walk around with wood on the beach theres just another standard.
Atlantabiolab, I dont think everybody should go around naked either. Still the laws are a sign of the culture, a sign of prudence.
Its uncommon for females to keep their top on while sunbathing in Europe and its not like we all walk around with wood on the beach theres just another standard.
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