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Is 10 weeks too soon?

dosteov

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I did a 10 week test/deca cycle. I've been done with PCT for 3 weeks and feel fully recovered (started GH 2 weeks ago as well). I'm itching to jump on another Test/Deca/DBol cycle. Everything looks good. Test levels normal, cholesterol is perfect. I'm looking to take my first injection 10 weeks after my last one (last inject was a long acting Test ester, I ran NPP for the 1st 8 weeks). My big worry is that I won't react to the gear as well as if i would take another couple of weeks off?

What do you all think?
 
How do you feel? Depressed? No motivation for the gym? How old are you? What were your dosages on the last cycle?
 
ortiz34 said:
How do you feel? Depressed? No motivation for the gym? How old are you? What were your dosages on the last cycle?

I feel fine. Fully recovered. I'm 34. Last cycle (my 3rd), I ran 500mgs Test (wks1-10) and 400Mgs NPP (wks 1-8). Not crazy doses. Currenty I'm running 4IUs ED (2IUs AM/2IUs PM).

I plan on going on basically the same thing.

500mgsTest wks 1-15
400mgsDeca wks 1-8
30-40mgs DBol wks 1-4

Running the GH for 6months, 4IUs Ed (5on, 2off). So about 5-6 weeks past my last Test injection.

Hoping to grow like a motherfucker loose fat at the same time (I know crazy goals, but hopefully the GH helps me accomplish it). I just want to make sure my "receptors" are fully recharged so I get the maximium effects.
 
I would rather stay off for a little while after I fully recovered. I'd rather wait 10 weeks after I fully recovered vs. 10 weeks from last injection. Guess everyone is different though.
 
iHulk said:
If your blood work says it good,
then get 'er dun!
agreed - if you've got your blood work done and it says everythings stabilized, then i see no reason why not. however, if you feel good based on your own subjective analysis, then i suggest getting your bloodwork done :)
 
Ulter said:
Your gear hasn't even cleared yet so your HPTA hasn't started up again. If you had blood work done, what was your LH? You're still living on the cycle you finished.
If you want to start another one then go ahead. But don't think you've come off because you haven't.

When you do your next cycle won't have anything to do with how effective it is. It will be effective based on the gear you use. You will need to change gears or go up in doses. Waiting 3 weeks or waiting 10 weeks makes no difference.

I'm not "clean" after 10 weeks? I ran 8 weeks of NPP and an extra 2 weeks of TestEnath. So I'd start my cycle 10.5 weeks after my last Test injection?

How long should I wait until I'm considered clean and still react well to the same kind of doses from the prior cycle?
 
dosteov said:
I feel fine. Fully recovered. I'm 34. Last cycle (my 3rd), I ran 500mgs Test (wks1-10) and 400Mgs NPP (wks 1-8). Not crazy doses. Currenty I'm running 4IUs ED (2IUs AM/2IUs PM).

I plan on going on basically the same thing.

500mgsTest wks 1-15
400mgsDeca wks 1-8
30-40mgs DBol wks 1-4

Running the GH for 6months, 4IUs Ed (5on, 2off). So about 5-6 weeks past my last Test injection.

Hoping to grow like a motherfucker loose fat at the same time (I know crazy goals, but hopefully the GH helps me accomplish it). I just want to make sure my "receptors" are fully recharged so I get the maximium effects.

How did the gains look from your prev cycle? Did you accomplish your goal? Not flaming you but your receptors don't "recharge". You body makes new recpetors all the time bro...
 
dosteov said:
I'm not "clean" after 10 weeks? I ran 8 weeks of NPP and an extra 2 weeks of TestEnath. So I'd start my cycle 10.5 weeks after my last Test injection?

How long should I wait until I'm considered clean and still react well to the same kind of doses from the prior cycle?
First and foremost, I misread it. I thought you posted "you'll be done" with PCT in 3 weeks, not "been done" 3 weeks. Yes your NPP and TE are clear, sorry.

You didn't post your results but I assume you grew. I also assume you were coming off because your gains slowed. If you were clipping along and gaining like a madman then you shouldn't have come off. But since no one does that by the end of 10 weeks I'll assume you're like everyone else.
You will not respond to the same doses cycle after cycle. You used a certain dose to push yourself to a certain point beyond your genetic limit. If you reached the top end of that limit for that dose, coming off for a while will not mean you can go back to it and just keep growing. You'll have to go up.
 
ulter, are you speaking from personal experience? I've seen guys that have run the same 500mg test for 2-3 cycles and put on quality mass each time. Does that mean they were not at their genetic peak before starting?
 
Ulter said:
First and foremost, I misread it. I thought you posted "you'll be done" with PCT in 3 weeks, not "been done" 3 weeks. Yes your NPP and TE are clear, sorry.

You didn't post your results but I assume you grew. I also assume you were coming off because your gains slowed. If you were clipping along and gaining like a madman then you shouldn't have come off. But since no one does that by the end of 10 weeks I'll assume you're like everyone else.
You will not respond to the same doses cycle after cycle. You used a certain dose to push yourself to a certain point beyond your genetic limit. If you reached the top end of that limit for that dose, coming off for a while will not mean you can go back to it and just keep growing. You'll have to go up.

Thanks Ulter. An opinion from you carries alot of weight. Gains were good and I've kept most. You are correct about stopping (not sure why it's necessary to go past 8-10 weeks as gains really slow after that point). I'm keeping doses the same with the Test and Deca (adding DBol the first 4 weeks though and running GH for the 1st time at 4IUs ED (5on, 2off).
 
brewers said:
ulter, are you speaking from personal experience? I've seen guys that have run the same 500mg test for 2-3 cycles and put on quality mass each time. Does that mean they were not at their genetic peak before starting?
Yes. It usually means they started using steroids way too soon and didn't have any mature muscle to build on. It can also mean they didn't train like they should or eat like they should. Basically it means they are dogging it and expecting the steriods to do the work. In which case they will spend a ton of money and take several cycles to do what they should have done in one or two.
 
Ulter said:
First and foremost, I misread it. I thought you posted "you'll be done" with PCT in 3 weeks, not "been done" 3 weeks. Yes your NPP and TE are clear, sorry.

You didn't post your results but I assume you grew. I also assume you were coming off because your gains slowed. If you were clipping along and gaining like a madman then you shouldn't have come off. But since no one does that by the end of 10 weeks I'll assume you're like everyone else.
You will not respond to the same doses cycle after cycle. You used a certain dose to push yourself to a certain point beyond your genetic limit. If you reached the top end of that limit for that dose, coming off for a while will not mean you can go back to it and just keep growing. You'll have to go up.

so is that just if you're using the same esters? b/c i'm using test prop and tren acetate at 50mg's ED each and for my next cycle i was thinking test E and tren E. i wouldnt have to up the normal doses for them would i?
 
I believe judging your receptors "readiness", if you will, is very specific to an individual, and hard to predict. Doing multiple cycles with bloodwork seems the best approach to determine how you respond to time off and subsequent cycles.

That being said, keep in mind that repeating the same cycle at similar dosages and duration is NOT a recipe for maximizing growth or using AAS efficiently (getting the most out of your money).

I have learned from several experienced bros, especially those that are on continuously, that to help get the most out of their receptors, they mix-up their cycles regularly to minimize the very concerns you are talking about.

If your bloodwork is good, then I would say go for it......unless you are using the exact same stuff, then I personally would wait longer or increase the dosage with the appropriate ancillary protection. Good luck.
 
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