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Is 10 weeks of Test too much?

Interesting thread, seems both sides are being presented well.

Stew, as a gullible newbie I am stuck with sus for my first cycle and maybe the second, but I think it's probably ok if it's front loaded a bit and injected twice a week after that.

But for a future cycle, what would you recommend? Cypionate or enthanate?
 
Either one is just as good as the other. Whichever you have access to at the best price.



-Stew
 
FROM ANOTHER POST:

The problem with Omnas is that they contain both long and short esters. If you injected only a long ester such as isocaparate, there woudl be a steady release from the time of injection and throughout the lifespan of the ester... However, you inject omna or sustonon,, which contain various esters.... you get bouncing hormone levels in a "W" fashion. The prop will inflate your hormone levels for 2 days then it drops. You inject again, and the levels shoot up, then trough 2 days later. Even though it contains 250mg of testosterone, that testosterone is bound by esters. It will take at least 4 weeks before most of the esters can be broken down. That means that that 500mg/wk injection can be divided by 4 (roughly) and yeild an average of 125mg per week... So the first week you start an Omna/Sust cycle, you are only getting a very small amout of testosterone that is mostly going to be from the prop because the rest is bound by long acting esters. So for example, on Monday, you may have 30mg circulating, unbound test, Tuesday 25mg circulating, Wednesday 20mg circulating, Thursday 10mg circulating, Then Friday after another injection, 35mg circulating... Up and down... Then eventually, after 5-6weeks, levels of the long releasing esters will accumilate and at 8 weeks when you stop your cycle, you have a moderately high level of androgens in your system that may take months to return to normal. You have no idea when exactly to start clomid therapy... If Omna is injected EOD, it is more effective but one woudl eventually accumilate an extremely high level of testosterone which will have an indefinate lifespan in the body.

However, enthanate is started on Monday and Friday and an even flow/release of hormone is acheived. The life of Enthanate is 10 days at 200mg/wk or 14 days at 600mg/wk... Enthanate is very predictable and clomid therapy can start 1.5-2 weeks after the last injection. This is why you don't see many experienced users use Sustonon or Omna, they use enthanate/cypionate or prop...... You will see better results.

However, since you have already purchased Omna, I'd stick with what I had and do it right next time.

As you may have guessed, I'm not a fan of Omna/Sust... and the markup on sustonon is unbelieveable.... the reason, newbies think that 4 esters are better than one. Some think that there are seperate receptors for each ester. So it sells... so sources are free to jack up the prices and profit from people's lack of education of steroids.





-Stew
 
The quicker the receptors are saturated, the quicker the gains will start.. This is is first cycle. 750mg/wk is too high. There is no point in going this high and building up a resistence to the gear... Unless you weigh 250+ 500mg/wk is plenty for first cycle... BTW, what are you planning on running with it?



-Stew
 
vdevil said:
Oh and ten weeks is fine.....
just finished up 25 weeks at almost a gram every week.....and i am getting ready to hit it again :)
aah,could it be another year round cycler here besides myself.:D
 
NVR-2-Big,

If your receptors are saturated after 6 weeks of Test at 500mg, do you really believe that adding only 250mg of Test for the last 4 weeks will have any substantial positive effect on growth?
 
BUMP on this topic I'd like to see allot of views on this... I was just about to get some sus. and d-bol but now I'm thinking twice...great post and excellent replies bros !!!:D
 
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